Engine iVTEC start up struggles occasionally..

basegreen · 10th May 2006, 10:13

On all of the 1.8 VTECs I've driven, occasionally the engine struggles to start when pressing the button.

Holding down the button a bit longer seems to help it through the dodgy start, but it seems a bit weird.

Any ideas?

Kpow99 · 10th May 2006, 10:52

Take it back and ask for another one

No sorry, the diesel starts perfectly every time.

basegreen · 10th May 2006, 11:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kpow99

Take it back and ask for another one

No sorry, the diesel starts perfectly every time.

Had it once on the diesel loaner as well. Quite odd... almost as though something else is loading the battery at the time.

kevin_lufc · 10th May 2006, 16:32

Not had a problem yet...

Raegten · 11th May 2006, 18:57

No problem on my 1.8 either. Starts every time. I don't really get the advantage of the start button though. I thought you just press it and it starts but You do have to hold it as long as you would have held a key in the ignition position. So what IS the advantage??

WonkySights · 11th May 2006, 19:10

It's big, it's red, it's a button!

StGeli · 11th May 2006, 20:17

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Originally Posted by WonkySights

It's big, it's red, it's a button!

Quite! :P

It's amazing just how quickly you adjust to turning the key and then move the hand to press the button.

That move doesn't seem to work in my other half's HRV or the godawful Focus I had the misfortune to drive the other day, though.

basegreen · 12th May 2006, 18:15

Just realised it happens to me when the car has been sitting getting hot in the sun all day.

Just takes ages to start and have to hold the button down quite a bit.

pikkumies · 28th May 2006, 15:17

Mine also took a bit longer than normal to start, had to press the button down for a quite longer than what im used to.. has only dóne this once, though i've only driven 700 km

basegreen · 28th May 2006, 16:48

Seems to have gone away again now - only seems to happen when I am showing someone the car

pikkumies · 1st June 2006, 19:19

Didnt drive the car for a day, it was really wet and moist. Initially it started up just fine, i drove 200 meters went to a store and started again. Almost didnt start, the battery notice also ligthed up and the startup almost failed. Weird

Copycat · 1st June 2006, 19:22

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Originally Posted by pikkumies

I drove 200 meters & went to a store

Classic!

I guess it was just one of those crazy things that happen for no apparent reason with these new ECU controlled cars.

basegreen · 1st June 2006, 19:35

There's definitely an issue. I don't know what it is yet, though.

Be so useful to be able to speak to an engineer who knows the car. The guys at the dealerships probably haven't a clue yet.

Topcat · 1st June 2006, 20:31

One of the pitfalls of buying a new model unfortunately - the "technicians" do not appear to be able to fix anything even the "senior" top of the range variety from Honda UK!!

Bring back good old fashioned mechanics is what i say who dont rely on a computer to tell them the problem!!

Actually thats not fair - I expect there are a few good ones out there - somewhere - maybe?

Pottsy · 10th June 2006, 10:16

Apparently the solution is to turn the key, wait for 3-4 seconds and then press start. Can't confirm this on mine (diesel) - anyone like to test (by trying a really quick start sequence commencing with the car locked)?

basegreen · 10th June 2006, 11:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pottsy

Apparently the solution is to turn the key, wait for 3-4 seconds and then press start. Can't confirm this on mine (diesel) - anyone like to test (by trying a really quick start sequence commencing with the car locked)?

Where'd you hear that? Only does it on mine when it's been sitting in the sun.

Pottsy · 10th June 2006, 13:17

It's a known problem on the US spec car. The sun can cause the fuel to vapourise, and so it needs a couple of seconds to build up the pressure again. Apparently.

pikkumies · 15th June 2006, 16:54

Mine did another start-up struggle twice today :/. The rpm meter only goes to 500, then jumps -> 1500. Irritating, going to mention about it the next time when on service

basegreen · 15th June 2006, 21:38

It happens when it's hot and the car has been sitting in the sun. Waiting longer between ignition and startup seems to help.

I've found that it DOES start even if you take your finger off the button (even though it doesn't feel like it will).

CIVICEXECUTIVE · 5th September 2006, 18:39

Well mine has this problem to, happened a couple of times now.

I.m.o. it does'nt have to do anything with the weather though.

Got out of work today and it was raining (18 degrees Celcius), i always wait about 5 to 10 seconds before starting it up (put the key in pos. 2, put my seatbeld on and waiting for some dashlights to go off etc.) started the car and it ran at 300rpm for about 2 / 3 seconds then it jumped to 1500rpm.

I've never experienced this on my 2004 Civic Sport.

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Kpow99 Explosive Mind Unleashed Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 5th May 2006 Location: London Posts: 535 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Take it back and ask for another one No sorry, the diesel starts perfectly every time.

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Raegten Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 4th May 2006 Location: Dublin Posts: 125 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	No problem on my 1.8 either. Starts every time. I don't really get the advantage of the start button though. I thought you just press it and it starts but You do have to hold it as long as you would have held a key in the ignition position. So what IS the advantage??

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WonkySights Wheelnut Join Date: 3rd May 2006 Location: Birmingham Posts: 73 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	It's big, it's red, it's a button!

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basegreen Super Moderator Civinfo guru Join Date: 15th April 2006 Location: noitacoL Posts: 2,870 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts iTrader: (0)	Just realised it happens to me when the car has been sitting getting hot in the sun all day. Just takes ages to start and have to hold the button down quite a bit.

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pikkumies Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 14th May 2006 Location: Jyväskylä, Finland Posts: 282 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Mine also took a bit longer than normal to start, had to press the button down for a quite longer than what im used to.. has only dóne this once, though i've only driven 700 km

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basegreen Super Moderator Civinfo guru Join Date: 15th April 2006 Location: noitacoL Posts: 2,870 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts iTrader: (0)	Seems to have gone away again now - only seems to happen when I am showing someone the car

1st June 2006, 19:19	#11 (permalink)
pikkumies Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 14th May 2006 Location: Jyväskylä, Finland Posts: 282 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Didnt drive the car for a day, it was really wet and moist. Initially it started up just fine, i drove 200 meters went to a store and started again. Almost didnt start, the battery notice also ligthed up and the startup almost failed. Weird

1st June 2006, 19:35	#13 (permalink)
basegreen Super Moderator Civinfo guru Join Date: 15th April 2006 Location: noitacoL Posts: 2,870 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts iTrader: (0)	There's definitely an issue. I don't know what it is yet, though. Be so useful to be able to speak to an engineer who knows the car. The guys at the dealerships probably haven't a clue yet.

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Topcat Supporter Civinfo guru Join Date: 11th May 2006 Location: Middlesex Posts: 2,743 Thanks: 0 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts iTrader: (0)	One of the pitfalls of buying a new model unfortunately - the "technicians" do not appear to be able to fix anything even the "senior" top of the range variety from Honda UK!! Bring back good old fashioned mechanics is what i say who dont rely on a computer to tell them the problem!! Actually thats not fair - I expect there are a few good ones out there - somewhere - maybe?

10th June 2006, 10:16	#15 (permalink)
Pottsy Administrator Civinfo master Join Date: 10th April 2006 Location: Leics Posts: 5,098 Thanks: 18 Thanked 112 Times in 64 Posts iTrader: (0)	Apparently the solution is to turn the key, wait for 3-4 seconds and then press start. Can't confirm this on mine (diesel) - anyone like to test (by trying a really quick start sequence commencing with the car locked)?

10th June 2006, 13:17	#17 (permalink)
Pottsy Administrator Civinfo master Join Date: 10th April 2006 Location: Leics Posts: 5,098 Thanks: 18 Thanked 112 Times in 64 Posts iTrader: (0)	It's a known problem on the US spec car. The sun can cause the fuel to vapourise, and so it needs a couple of seconds to build up the pressure again. Apparently.

15th June 2006, 16:54	#18 (permalink)
pikkumies Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 14th May 2006 Location: Jyväskylä, Finland Posts: 282 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Mine did another start-up struggle twice today :/. The rpm meter only goes to 500, then jumps -> 1500. Irritating, going to mention about it the next time when on service

15th June 2006, 21:38	#19 (permalink)
basegreen Super Moderator Civinfo guru Join Date: 15th April 2006 Location: noitacoL Posts: 2,870 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts iTrader: (0)	It happens when it's hot and the car has been sitting in the sun. Waiting longer between ignition and startup seems to help. I've found that it DOES start even if you take your finger off the button (even though it doesn't feel like it will).

5th September 2006, 18:39	#20 (permalink)
CIVICEXECUTIVE Valve Cap Join Date: 24th August 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 11 Thanks: 3 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Well mine has this problem to, happened a couple of times now. I.m.o. it does'nt have to do anything with the weather though. Got out of work today and it was raining (18 degrees Celcius), i always wait about 5 to 10 seconds before starting it up (put the key in pos. 2, put my seatbeld on and waiting for some dashlights to go off etc.) started the car and it ran at 300rpm for about 2 / 3 seconds then it jumped to 1500rpm. I've never experienced this on my 2004 Civic Sport.