Handbrake handbrake self release (inc recall letter) - Page 27

TruckerEm · 10th March 2008, 21:21

Has anyone as yet heard anything about having the new handbrake being fitted? My car is due its service next month and would be so much easier if it only had to go in once. Seeing as we were told we would be contacted March/April seeings it now the the 10th March do you think its time to start calling Honda UK for a date that my FAULTY handbrake can be renewed??

Was in autopilot yesterday after driving my old Peagout over the weekend then getting back in my civic i pressed the button when i put the handbrake on. As soon as I did it I realised what I had done but too late BANG and the handbrake dropped to the floor. Lost count now how many times with and without touchng the button its done that now.

DUNCAN · 13th March 2008, 20:26

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Originally Posted by mrt

What if the car was parked on a slope and a pedestrian was walking in front of the civic and the handbrake released? would this be an health and safetey issue? HONDA should be ashamed to release a vehicle that is potentially dangerous. Im afraid i have no faith in the power of dreams anymore, personally I hate owning a car that has a fault of this nature and think its disgusting that a company like Honda can not take something that is potentially dangerous seriously and recall all units asap. I remember in the old days of the 1200 civics when it was discovered due to collapse of a shock absorber that all civic 1200's where immediatley recalled for shocker testing and lower arm testing replaced if necessary and all civics where inspected and undersealed, of course that was in the reputation building days. The company obviously is now too big to worry about the competition from other manufacturers.

black honda civic 07.in stalybridge to day .park on a slope handbrake released..children runing out of way screaming.

Doubtingthomas · 13th March 2008, 21:01

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Originally Posted by DUNCAN

black honda civic 07.in stalybridge to day .park on a slope handbrake released..children runing out of way screaming.

Cause for concern, Duncan. Yes, this is yet another example of the handbrake failing. I must presume however the car was not left in gear.......who would have been culpable had a child been injured? It is a worrying thought and a reminder to us all on how to 'safely leave a car on a slope'. One just cannot rely on the handbrake unfortunately.

Rumblefish · 13th March 2008, 21:20

I absolutely dispise Honda civics now, if theres a bug going I guarantee I've had it, Cracked front Fog lights, recurring flat battery etc etc, just read my posts! now the sodding handbrake released itself and wallop straight into a gatepost, doing a nice bit of damage. I know I should have put the hand brake on as stated by the ****s at honda, but sometimes you forget, like tonight, now I'm faced with a bill to get it fixed because these incompetent plonkers cant build cars properly, Does anyone think its actually worth going to them about it ? bearing in mind they sent the '@rse covering' letter

eyemdee · 13th March 2008, 21:39

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Originally Posted by Rumblefish

Does anyone think its actually worth going to them about it ?

Absolutely! Yes! If you are out of pocket because of a Manufacturing fault which Honda have admitted then you have a claim against them. No question IMHO.

Bob H · 13th March 2008, 21:48

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Originally Posted by Rumblefish

I absolutely dispise Honda civics now, if theres a bug going I guarantee I've had it, Cracked front Fog lights, recurring flat battery etc etc, just read my posts! now the sodding handbrake released itself and wallop straight into a gatepost, doing a nice bit of damage. I know I should have put the hand brake on as stated by the ****s at honda, but sometimes you forget, like tonight, now I'm faced with a bill to get it fixed because these incompetent plonkers cant build cars properly, Does anyone think its actually worth going to them about it ? bearing in mind they sent the '@rse covering' letter

Sorry to hear of the mishap however is the letter a "get out of jail free card"? Would be interesting to see this challenged in law...

Cheers,

Bob...

eyemdee · 13th March 2008, 22:16

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Originally Posted by Bob H

...is the letter a "get out of jail free card"? ...

Personally I don't think so. IMO the important words in the letter are "there is a small risk that the handbrake may not latch sufficiently to hold the vehicle securely on a slope."

This says to me that the handbrake is faulty otherwise they would not be changing it!

Was the button pressed? What are buttons for?! A letter is not enough to guarantee that every person that ever drives a Civic is aware of their "advice".

Rumblefish · 13th March 2008, 22:37

thanks for the responses guys, I think you are right, I will make a few enquiries in the morning, the dealers have promised me a free service this week for the next time for the last lot of inconvenience, they'll freak when I tell them this! lol ! I'm beyond caring with it now to be honest, owning a honda for the past nine months has been a complete catalogue of disasters non of them of my making.

I've attached an image of the surface damage, however I've had to cut away a lot of the plastic wheel arch as it was rubbing on the tyre, the metal support for the arch has clearly bent aswell! this car is a complete joke.

I'm not actually too sure whether or not I pressed the button, stressful day at work and all that, I know one thing is for sure, I didnt leave it off! my driving instuctor all those years ago always told me to always press the button, so getting out the habit for the sake of Honda is virtually impossible when your mind is on other things

Anyways, I'll let you know what happens

J

Bob H · 13th March 2008, 22:48

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Originally Posted by eyemdee

Personally I don't think so. IMO the important words in the letter are "there is a small risk that the handbrake may not latch sufficiently to hold the vehicle securely on a slope."

This says to me that the handbrake is faulty otherwise they would not be changing it!

Was the button pressed? What are buttons for?! A letter is not enough to guarantee that every person that ever drives a Civic is aware of their "advice".

Or have they said enough to mitigate the risk by advising how to use the handbrake? Not withstanding this, I'm sure we all stand by Rumblefish and hope he gets it sorted without hassel...

Cheers,

Bob...

skam · 14th March 2008, 15:15

Today the Greek local dealer sent me the bulletin about the handbrake problem and the right way to use it. He also sent me a cover letter in which he mentions that honda engineers are working on a solution and that they will soon call as in order to fit the new handbrake. The problem is well known all these months and they sent that today...I must admit though that i am one of the lucky owners with no handbrake problems till today. Hope it last since the fix day.

simon1 · 14th March 2008, 16:37

So let me see if I have this right: Honda have been a mainstream car manufacturer for, ooh, at least 40 years. All those cars had handbrakes. All cars have handbrakes. All manufacturers make cars with handbrakes that work.

So what is so special about this car that Honda can't simply fix it? How could they even get it wrong in the first place? Surely the handbrake is one of the least complex features on any car?

jazzman · 14th March 2008, 16:50

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Originally Posted by simon1

So let me see if I have this right: Honda have been a mainstream car manufacturer for, ooh, at least 40 years. All those cars had handbrakes. All cars have handbrakes. All manufacturers make cars with handbrakes that work.

So what is so special about this car that Honda can't simply fix it? How could they even get it wrong in the first place? Surely the handbrake is one of the least complex features on any car?

As has been said many times before this problem is not just Honda it is a problem with other manufactures such as Toyota ( Auris ) and Vauxhall (Vectra, Corsa)

flyguy40@ · 14th March 2008, 17:35

Hi all,before picking my ctr up on wednesday i contacted the dealers about this problem,they have told me it does not effect 08 cars,still not good for 06/07 drivers i know,but they have cured it,I HOPE!!!!!

civicfan · 14th March 2008, 17:37

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Originally Posted by simon1

So let me see if I have this right: Honda have been a mainstream car manufacturer for, ooh, at least 40 years. All those cars had handbrakes. All cars have handbrakes. All manufacturers make cars with handbrakes that work.

So what is so special about this car that Honda can't simply fix it? How could they even get it wrong in the first place? Surely the handbrake is one of the least complex features on any car?

Maximization of profit - make it cheap but sell it as if it were good. They all do it, I guess anyone who wouldn't is likely to have problems with his shareholders

FWH · 16th March 2008, 11:19

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Originally Posted by simon1

All manufacturers make cars with handbrakes that work.

Several other manufacturers have also had problems with handbrakes not working.

Rumblefish · 17th March 2008, 17:50

UPDATE: Spoke to dealer on friday, apparently because the car hit a gatepost its classed as a third party to Honda therefore it needs to go through main Honda switchboard, which was down on Friday.

Spoke to Dion on Honda helpdesk at 0930 this morning who promised to call me straight back with what Honda were going to do about the situation, at 1700 I had heard nothing, I called back and lo and behold Dion had left for the evening......another day wasted!

Honda: Where problems are a joy....

THe saga continues!

Doubtingthomas · 17th March 2008, 20:17

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Originally Posted by Rumblefish

UPDATE: Spoke to dealer on friday, apparently because the car hit a gatepost its classed as a third party to Honda therefore it needs to go through main Honda switchboard, which was down on Friday.

Spoke to Dion on Honda helpdesk at 0930 this morning who promised to call me straight back with what Honda were going to do about the situation, at 1700 I had heard nothing, I called back and lo and behold Dion had left for the evening......another day wasted!

Honda: Where problems are a joy....

THe saga continues!

Out of common courtesy alone, Dion should have rung you back as promised. Even if Dion had not resolved the problem for you Dion or someone on behalf of Dion should have updated you. Please see my signature.

Kremmen · 18th March 2008, 10:44

The latest (Apr) issue of Which? magazine has a small article about the Civic following in the footsteps of Vauxhall with a handbrake issue.

They state that it affects all 06 and 07 Civics and they then follow it up with a picture of a Civic Hybrid !

Honda apparently were quick to acknowledge that they do not use the same handbrake manufacturer as Vauxhall.

Charley Farley · 18th March 2008, 13:47

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Originally Posted by TruckerEm

Has anyone as yet heard anything about having the new handbrake being fitted? My car is due its service next month and would be so much easier if it only had to go in once. Seeing as we were told we would be contacted March/April seeings it now the the 10th March do you think its time to start calling Honda UK for a date that my FAULTY handbrake can be renewed??

Hi TruckerEM

I phoned Balmer Lawn Garage today and they have informed me that letters will be going out to affected parties at the end of March. Once you have received your letter you can ask for it to be fitted. I am also going to have the passsenger door handle modification as mine is starting to be a bit difficult to open.

Rumblefish · 18th March 2008, 19:25

All, after a pretty traumatic telephone conversation earlier, HONDA HAVE ADMITTED LIABILITY and WILL PAY for the damage to my car to be fixed after this latest farce, which is quite right IMO, so anyone else visiting this forum under these circumstances give me a shout and i'll give you my reference number as an example to use if you are experiencing any resistance, i'll obviously keep you up to date as the situation progresses

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10th March 2008, 21:21	#521 (permalink)
TruckerEm Supporter Wheelnut Join Date: 3rd December 2007 Location: Cornwall Posts: 80 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Has anyone as yet heard anything about having the new handbrake being fitted? My car is due its service next month and would be so much easier if it only had to go in once. Seeing as we were told we would be contacted March/April seeings it now the the 10th March do you think its time to start calling Honda UK for a date that my FAULTY handbrake can be renewed?? Was in autopilot yesterday after driving my old Peagout over the weekend then getting back in my civic i pressed the button when i put the handbrake on. As soon as I did it I realised what I had done but too late BANG and the handbrake dropped to the floor. Lost count now how many times with and without touchng the button its done that now.

13th March 2008, 21:20	#524 (permalink)
Rumblefish Valve Cap Join Date: 11th February 2008 Location: Lincoln,UK Posts: 27 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I absolutely dispise Honda civics now, if theres a bug going I guarantee I've had it, Cracked front Fog lights, recurring flat battery etc etc, just read my posts! now the sodding handbrake released itself and wallop straight into a gatepost, doing a nice bit of damage. I know I should have put the hand brake on as stated by the ****s at honda, but sometimes you forget, like tonight, now I'm faced with a bill to get it fixed because these incompetent plonkers cant build cars properly, Does anyone think its actually worth going to them about it ? bearing in mind they sent the '@rse covering' letter

14th March 2008, 15:15	#530 (permalink)
skam Greek Subtopic Moderator Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 7th October 2006 Location: ATHENS, HELLAS Posts: 665 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Today the Greek local dealer sent me the bulletin about the handbrake problem and the right way to use it. He also sent me a cover letter in which he mentions that honda engineers are working on a solution and that they will soon call as in order to fit the new handbrake. The problem is well known all these months and they sent that today...I must admit though that i am one of the lucky owners with no handbrake problems till today. Hope it last since the fix day.

14th March 2008, 16:37	#531 (permalink)
simon1 Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 10th December 2007 Location: UK Posts: 268 Thanks: 3 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts	So let me see if I have this right: Honda have been a mainstream car manufacturer for, ooh, at least 40 years. All those cars had handbrakes. All cars have handbrakes. All manufacturers make cars with handbrakes that work. So what is so special about this car that Honda can't simply fix it? How could they even get it wrong in the first place? Surely the handbrake is one of the least complex features on any car?

14th March 2008, 17:35	#533 (permalink)
flyguy40@ Supporter Valve Cap Join Date: 7th March 2008 Location: forres scotland Posts: 41 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hi all,before picking my ctr up on wednesday i contacted the dealers about this problem,they have told me it does not effect 08 cars,still not good for 06/07 drivers i know,but they have cured it,I HOPE!!!!!

17th March 2008, 17:50	#536 (permalink)
Rumblefish Valve Cap Join Date: 11th February 2008 Location: Lincoln,UK Posts: 27 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	UPDATE: Spoke to dealer on friday, apparently because the car hit a gatepost its classed as a third party to Honda therefore it needs to go through main Honda switchboard, which was down on Friday. Spoke to Dion on Honda helpdesk at 0930 this morning who promised to call me straight back with what Honda were going to do about the situation, at 1700 I had heard nothing, I called back and lo and behold Dion had left for the evening......another day wasted! Honda: Where problems are a joy.... THe saga continues!

18th March 2008, 10:44	#538 (permalink)
Kremmen Krem de la Krem Civinfo guru Join Date: 7th January 2007 Location: West London Posts: 2,577 Thanks: 7 Thanked 11 Times in 11 Posts	The latest (Apr) issue of Which? magazine has a small article about the Civic following in the footsteps of Vauxhall with a handbrake issue. They state that it affects all 06 and 07 Civics and they then follow it up with a picture of a Civic Hybrid ! Honda apparently were quick to acknowledge that they do not use the same handbrake manufacturer as Vauxhall.

18th March 2008, 19:25	#540 (permalink)
Rumblefish Valve Cap Join Date: 11th February 2008 Location: Lincoln,UK Posts: 27 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	All, after a pretty traumatic telephone conversation earlier, HONDA HAVE ADMITTED LIABILITY and WILL PAY for the damage to my car to be fixed after this latest farce, which is quite right IMO, so anyone else visiting this forum under these circumstances give me a shout and i'll give you my reference number as an example to use if you are experiencing any resistance, i'll obviously keep you up to date as the situation progresses