Handbrake handbrake self release (inc recall letter) - Page 39

Doubtingthomas · 10th May 2008, 19:23

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Originally Posted by pigsy10

I received a recall letter from Honda this morning asking me to book the car in for replacement hand break.

I will ring the dealer on Monday, I wonder how long it takes to book the car in.

To book the car in - two minutes at the most.

To have the modified parking brake fitted maybe one to two hours according to other forum members who have had the job done. May be even quicker. Good luck, at least Honda UK has written to you.....

Azbo · 10th May 2008, 23:11

I've just come back from holiday and found a letter from Honda waiting for me. Thankfully the car performed brilliantly while away so I'll get it sorted at the dealer asap.

TTDegs · 10th May 2008, 23:52

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Originally Posted by Doubtingthomas

I don't think it is a different 'fault'. Please see my post above and posts re "parking brake-cooling disc". In the absence of any further information/explanation, it appears that 'deam2k5' applied the parking brake whilst the brake discs were hot and slightly expanded. On the discs cooling, the pads no longer grip the disc and with the car not being left in gear, on an incline, disaster takes over.

It is a known phenomenon, which we should all be aware of, but not a fault as such. That is my understanding, unfortunately for 'deam2k5'.
If there is another explanation which points to a definite 'fault' I and no doubt 'deam2k5' would like to hear of it.

It is so easily done and I feel for 'deam2k5'

I would fully agree with your explanation

And indeed, the whole phenonemon (sp?) of cooling brake discs is a reasonably well known one.

However, this thread in particular is in reference to the 'other' problem with the handbrake system, whereby the ratchet mechanism self releases (and therefore releases the brakes) resulting the the handbrake lever being found in the down position, not still in the up position

which is what I think mrh was referring to

darkside · 12th May 2008, 20:56

Mine is booked in for next week they are looking at a couple of other problems as well i.e. Door handle sticking and car not always starting first time

They said should take about an hour.

NH Dan · 13th May 2008, 13:48

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Originally Posted by Doubtingthomas

Thank you. I despair............Have they no faith in their product? I am still awaiting a reply from Honda UK. If they say the same, I shall write back reminding them of "their letter". It's time for a G & T!

Why do you despair?? The handbrake design is and pretty much always has been a ratchet system which in my mind means you pull up the handbrake and it runs through several clicks as the cog/teeth etc click into place and lock the brakes into place.

If Honda have advised people to apply the brake by not using the button one can only assume that this is to avoid anyone who HASNT had the upgrade fitted applying the handbrake incorrectly. Its obviously not a case of not having faith in a product at all.

jazzman · 13th May 2008, 14:14

All you do is phone your dealer and they book you in and replace the handbrake, so where is the problem.?
I`ve just had a first service and the handbrake was replaced. No problem at all

Topcat · 13th May 2008, 16:14

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Originally Posted by NH Dan

If Honda have advised people to apply the brake by not using the button one can only assume that this is to avoid anyone who HASNT had the upgrade fitted applying the handbrake incorrectly. Its obviously not a case of not having faith in a product at all.

Hmmmm and you know what they say about assumption !!!

jazzman · 13th May 2008, 16:19

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Originally Posted by Topcat

Hmmmm and you know what they say about assumption !!!

What do they say

Pottsy · 13th May 2008, 16:36

ass u me

jazzman · 13th May 2008, 16:38

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Originally Posted by Pottsy

ass u me

Thanks Pottsy you are a veritable treasure of knowledge

Topcat · 13th May 2008, 16:40

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Originally Posted by jazzman

What do they say

It is the Mother of all mess ups !!

jazzman · 13th May 2008, 16:43

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Originally Posted by Topcat

It is the Mother of all mess ups !!

So who is messing what up

Topcat · 13th May 2008, 17:46

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Originally Posted by jazzman

So who is messing what up

NHDan said one can assume - that was my reply ASSUMING IS NOT KNOWING THE TRUE FACTS so stop trying to be clever.

If people are being told NOT TO PRESS THE BUTTON when applying the handbrake AFTER the fix then they are obviously not confident in their fix.

jazzman · 14th May 2008, 07:12

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Originally Posted by Topcat

NHDan said one can assume - that was my reply ASSUMING IS NOT KNOWING THE TRUE FACTS so stop trying to be clever.

If people are being told NOT TO PRESS THE BUTTON when applying the handbrake AFTER the fix then they are obviously not confident in their fix.

I don`t have to try as I am naturally clever.

Kremmen · 14th May 2008, 07:17

I have always, and will always press the button.

It's second nature and the ratchet noise is only second to fingernails on a blackboard for me - horrible noise.

If you do press the button then always press down on the lever to ensure it's properly engaged and select the appropriate gear.

NH Dan · 14th May 2008, 13:15

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Originally Posted by Topcat

NHDan said one can assume - that was my reply ASSUMING IS NOT KNOWING THE TRUE FACTS so stop trying to be clever.

If people are being told NOT TO PRESS THE BUTTON when applying the handbrake AFTER the fix then they are obviously not confident in their fix.

Obviously.

I don't think i'll bother trying to assist any further with this matter as the likes of TC and a few others obviously take great delight in undermining any vaguely posistive steps that one takes to help out.

Do what you want with your handbrake, I know that mine has been fixed and I know how I apply it. Mine has never rolled away and am damn sure that it wont. I also don't need to be told in writing how to do it.

jazzman · 14th May 2008, 18:44

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Originally Posted by NH Dan

Obviously.

I don't think i'll bother trying to assist any further with this matter as the likes of TC and a few others obviously take great delight in undermining any vaguely posistive steps that one takes to help out.

Do what you want with your handbrake, I know that mine has been fixed and I know how I apply it. Mine has never rolled away and am damn sure that it wont. I also don't need to be told in writing how to do it.

I`m with you at least we have got and enjoy Civics unlike some critics.

Doubtingthomas · 14th May 2008, 19:11

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Originally Posted by jazzman

I`m with you at least we have got and enjoy Civics unlike some critics.

Some critics..........I have run Honda's for too many years I care to remember. I still support the marque, although my confidence has been somewhat dented of late. As far as this thread is concerned all I am trying to do is to get Honda UK adhere to it's promise. That's all, is that too much to ask for?

jazzman · 14th May 2008, 22:46

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Originally Posted by Doubtingthomas

Some critics..........I have run Honda's for too many years I care to remember. I still support the marque, although my confidence has been somewhat dented of late. As far as this thread is concerned all I am trying to do is to get Honda UK adhere to it's promise. That's all, is that too much to ask for?

What promise. If you mean a replacement handbrake then just do as I did which was to phone my dealer to arrange to bring the car in and it was fitted without any delay or problem. It was that easy.

Doubtingthomas · 15th May 2008, 06:05

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Originally Posted by Doubtingthomas

I know I could ring my local dealer but rightly or wrongly I am going to refer the matter back to Honda UK. If it is now the accepted practice that owners should independently contact their local dealers then Honda UK should have mentioned it.

jazzman Thank you. I have reproduced above part of my post number 730 of 3rd May. I am still awaiting a reply from Honda UK.

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