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Old 30th November 2007, 15:04   #61 (permalink)
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TT -someone all these Handbrake posts need to be joined up
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Old 30th November 2007, 15:05   #62 (permalink)
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I was also taught to press button. pull up (til firm). release the release-button. and then pull up a further click or two.

But ANYWAY after reading my advice booklet. I have to admit there was one time where my civic did start rolling away... but that had more to do with me forgetting to put the handbrake on altogether (at least I think it was... i would be very concerned if it really wasn't just my forgetfulness).
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Old 30th November 2007, 15:09   #63 (permalink)
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yes I agree
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Old 30th November 2007, 15:17   #64 (permalink)
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Honda by sending out the intended recall and retrofit of a new hand brake lever, by thier action they have agreed that there is a fault, albeit a low amount to date of people with the problem, unlike yourself who seems to never have anything wrong with your car! So am I to understand that you will not be taking up the offer of the new lever? This recall/refit is a direct result of some of us standing up and shouting at Honda to put a fault right - we do not expect any thanks but we also do not want condescending remarks either!
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Only one thing mike can you proove that the Handbrake was applied in the appropriate manner and if on a hill was it left in gear
if you can then you have got a case !!!

Do you never give up !!!!

You back Honda until your blue in the face, Honda have admit there is a problem end of story. Are you trying to insult people's inteligence by saying that they do not know how to apply a handbrake in an appropriate manner?
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Old 30th November 2007, 15:27   #66 (permalink)
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Old 30th November 2007, 15:44   #67 (permalink)
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Do you never give up !!!!

You back Honda until your blue in the face, Honda have admit there is a problem end of story. Are you trying to insult people's inteligence by saying that they do not know how to apply a handbrake in an appropriate manner?

TC think about it

Honda are clearly stating that people should not hold the button in whilst applying the handbrake i.e they have found out that if you do apply the handbrake holding the button in it can release

So what Honda are saying is that there is no problems if you apply the handbrake without holding in the button - then the handbrake will not release ( Keep in mind this is what Honda are saying)

It would appear that quite a few people do not leave their cars in gear when parking on a hill ( if they had the cars would not have rolled) and so
they are reminding owners to do this

I was not insulting anyone - I was mearly pointing out the fact that Honda
WILL ask for proof that the Handbrake was applied without the button being depressed and if the car was on a hill that it was left in gear
if not Honda will defend themselves till they are blue in the face

I would hope Mike had taken my comments as they were meant to be taken ( i,e as advice) and not any other way

Yes Honda could have admitted they were looking into the issue but for reasons only known to themselves ( I would guess they wanted to have an answer before they made any comment) they didn't
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Old 30th November 2007, 16:02   #68 (permalink)
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I got the letter today and I think i't ridiculous!! Telling us how to apply the handbrake. If the made the f**king properly in the first place (like other car manufacturers have managed to do for years), then there would be no need to send a letter covering their ar*ses!!!

Besides, when I was taught to drive 18 years ago (and my wife 2 years ago) we was taught to hold in the button when applying and releasing the button!!!
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Old 30th November 2007, 16:53   #69 (permalink)
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Just received a recorded delivery letter telling me the correct way to apply the hand brake.
It also says there will be a replacement hand brake next spring!
I hope things are not going down hill!!!!
I've just received one aswell. It was something I raised when I got it serviced at the time. I like how they've given us a little booklet on how to operate the handbrake. (Is there a reason that they're showing a womans hand operating it?????)
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Old 30th November 2007, 16:56   #70 (permalink)
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Yet another example of Honda placing visual design above what in the past, they have always been the best at, -- Technology and Reliability.
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I am fairly confident that I know how to use a handbrake, and that it works. (I always leave the car in first gear just in case though!)

I am looking forward to reading Hondas a**e covering letter.
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Old 30th November 2007, 17:41   #72 (permalink)
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Loch out below!!!!! Bad joke I know, sorry But my handbrake seems to work fine, I was taught to never hold in the button (because the examiners like to hear the clicks so they know you've applied it properly).

But I agree, they must think we are dumb, they give us cars with top speeds of 120+++ Mph (that are huge lumps of metal capable of killing and maming easily), we are trusted to use them properly, but then they think we havn't got the brains to work the simplest thing on the car!

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Old 30th November 2007, 17:43   #73 (permalink)
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Just got our letter now.


I was always taught to press the button, pull the lever, then release so will continue doing that.
That is exactly what you should NOT do - i presume because the ratchet is not guaranteed to engage.

i will though carry on doing what i have always done, press the button, pull the lever release button then pull again for a confirmation click or two from the ratchet
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So what Honda are saying is that there is no problems if you apply the handbrake without holding in the button - then the handbrake will not release ( Keep in mind this is what Honda are saying)

Rubbish - I didnt press the button whilst applying the handbrake and my handbrake has released three times so answer that one !

I think something has happened somewhere that we are unware of that has finally made Honda realise quite how serious this situation was becoming. We know that they have wriggled out of every claim made from people of this forum, refusing to accept any blame whatsoever so it makes you think what has actually happened for them to finally take action? Recorded Delivery letters too!!!

Each time my car handbrake failed it was very quickly after applying it so I was in the car, if however I was one of many who had actually hit something I would most definately be taking action against Honda now for damages.
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Yes, because it was apparently mainly women it was happening too.

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Wasn't someone pinned to their garage door by their Civ a short while ago???? Maybe the thought of a law suit has made them think??

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will try and gather all the posts in one place later - but please don't shout if it all gets a little bit difficult to follow....
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Yep or nearly and the car was damaged.Another guy on here, found his car many yards down the road.
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Old 30th November 2007, 18:19   #79 (permalink)
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I have always depressed the button when applying the handbrake and don't leave the car in gear as a matter of routine.

I've never had issue. My car is April 06 and supposedly bug ridden. I suggest human error is at fault hence Honda giving advice on handbrake usage.
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I suggest human error is at fault hence Honda giving advice on handbrake usage.

Rubbish CZ - obviously not every single car has been fitted with a faulty part same as the shocks, fuel filler cap, wipers, batteries, radios etc etc

Well according to some if your car rolls down a hill now then its your fault for not leaving the car in gear.
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