Dealers buying

[sid taylor]

hi everybody
we are going to buy a 1.8 ex 5 door civic in silver or black to-day dealer has offered spare wheel ,mats,doorsill garnish,fulltank of fuel and 12moths road tax.otr 17400k.we are trading in a 2.0gt tdi golf 12moth old 6000miles in black no probles just find it a bit boring inside.dealer rang last night to say if we wanted a diesel he has a 2.2ex in silver 57 plate 2008 build with sensors and 2008 disc for sat nav 100 miles on clock pre reg with all the optons of the petrol as above 18000k .any ideas which way to go they both sound ok to me

[FWH]

A lot comes down to if you prefer diesel or petrol which is a matter of taste.

I drive a petrol, but then we don´t get the diesel over here.

The diesel is more expensive, but you are getting it for £600 which is cheap.

The diesel is more expensive to service.

As it has 100 miles on the clock you don´t know how it has been driven (run-in).

There are a few faults which seem more predominant on the diesel like flat battery, but this is only on a few cars.

The diesel can be remapped to 190 bhp!!!

The diesel has better fuel economy.

If I was given the choice you have, and could live with silver, I would go for the diesel (and a remap).

[sid taylor]

thanks for the input

[Dimplyred]

Originally Posted by FWH

If I was given the choice you have, and could live with silver, I would go for the diesel (and a remap).

FWH has summed it up in his post.

I would go for the diesel too.

[grasey]

If it was me I would go for the petrol in black, they look a lot better when they are nice and clean, but hard to keep clean, but you would know that all ready. welcome to the forum and good luck whatever you choose.

[TTDegs]

tough call - I personally prefer black - but at only £600 premium for the diesel...

I love my diesel

FWH is right, you won't know what has happened in the first 100 miles - but unless it's been trashed to death (unlikely), it shouldn't make any real difference.

make sure you will be the first owner though, and that it hasn't been pre-registered.

the other bits - spare wheel ,mats,doorsill garnish,fulltank of fuel and 12moths road tax

you should still get the fuel and the road tax, might have to haggle over the spare wheel (circa £90), mats (about £50) and doorsill garnish (£can't recall, think about £60?)

but I still love my diesel
(Had I mentioned that? )

[cb550]

Originally Posted by sid taylor

hi everybody
we are going to buy a 1.8 ex 5 door civic in silver or black to-day dealer has offered spare wheel ,mats,doorsill garnish,fulltank of fuel and 12moths road tax.otr 17400k.we are trading in a 2.0gt tdi golf 12moth old 6000miles in black no probles just find it a bit boring inside.dealer rang last night to say if we wanted a diesel he has a 2.2ex in silver 57 plate 2008 build with sensors and 2008 disc for sat nav 100 miles on clock pre reg with all the optons of the petrol as above 18000k .any ideas which way to go they both sound ok to me

The only petrol civic I've owned was the previous gen.Civic type S (160 bhp).I was'nt at all keen on its power delivery i.e. to make rapid progress you were constantly working the gearbox to keep it on the boil(got rid in the end)

Yesterday completed a 60 mile A road/back road trip and confirmed again what an accomplished,satisfying and effortless car the 2.2 is to drive quickly

Your'e post describes your'e offer as pre-reg with the same extras as the petrol.Sounds pretty good to me,although a question mark remains over the 100 miles on the clock?(my pre-reg had 3)

P.S. if the car's been demonstating for its 100 miles,thats room for negotiating the price

[symia32]

I bought a pre-reg type s gt. When I picked it up it had just over 100 miles on he clock, although I brought it from Milton Keynes and the car was at their Slough showroom. Car was in excellent condition and obviously unused.

I have had it 2 weeks now and love it. I previously had an Audi A3 with the same engine you have in the golf 140bhp tdi, and their is nothing to compare, no smoke in the morning or when you push it, quiet, smooth, and lovely and responsive, so much I have now done over 1000 miles, any excuse to use the car.

Only downsides, build not quite up with the Audi, but still very good. Out of the two much prefer the Type S.

Out of interest, are you getting a good part ex?

I tried some local dealers in the midlands and the deals were not so good. Have a look on the Honda used website they have a some pre-reg cars and you can usually do a deal before you have to travel. And it also enables you to play off dealers against each other

[FWH]

Here are examples of service costs for the different versions if you want to compare:

Service Cost - Civinfo Wiki

[DeanFYoung]

£600 for the diesel is good....so guess it comes down to colour preference and the milege you do? As mentioned above Diesel is more to service, and will you do the miles to make Diesel the better option??

[sid taylor]

13750k part ex

[symia32]

If it is a 5 door Glass values at average condition £14900. I would push for another £1000 off. You can see the Glass values on Vauxhall website (off all places!)

[NH Dan]

Personally,as your used to a diesel, i'd go for the diesel option but dont bother with the re-map - you will instantly invalidate the warranty. However, both look like good deals from here.....

[TTDegs]

just for completeness, SuperChip price includes a warrenty for their work.

Not sure if anyone has ever tried to claim, or on what warrenty, if an engine were to fail (or a clutch or whatever else)

[sid taylor]

thanks for your replies

[NH Dan]

just to advise further on the modding/remap of a cars ECU, if this is done it will immediately render the manufacturers warranty invalid. So, if you do have anything like this done, make sure that the company responsible offer a full cover warranty for any damage that may occur.

[Dunchan]

Late September '07 2.2 iCDTi. 9,200 odd miles from new. Average 47 m.p.g. superb acceleration petrol not an option! Go diesel!
Dunchan.

[dilfred]

Also how many miles a year do you do?

A very rough rule of thumb is that if you do less than 15000 miles, then it's generally more economical in a year to buy a petrol version. Over that distance you'll save money with the additional diesel efficiency, even if the service cost, diesel price etc. is more.

I have a '06 1.8 ES and it's averaging 42mpg at the moment. That is work run, and also weekend pop to the shops and motorway long journeys. If I just cruise the motorway, then i'm looking at about 47mpg. But that is very boring driving :P

[Dunchan]

I travel between 21,000 to 25,000 miles in a year typically. A fortnights holiday in France will easily add another 2,000 miles to that total.
I am also very fortunate in not having to pay directly for my CIVIC's maintenance and running costs. With the distances I travel stops to refill a petrol-engined vehicle were far too frequent in my experience.
My daily commute includes about 70 miles of motorway driving and like everyone else, I don't stick to the legal limit all of the time. It's still quite difficult to return much less that 47mpg however. I am steadfast in my (infrequent) use of the specific Castrol synthetic oil that Honda reccomend. And, incidentally, I do like the diesel CIVIC very much!