[Other] I am concerned!!! - Page 3

robbo51 · 20th April 2008, 06:05

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Originally Posted by cnicolini

................... Also if you are going away and not starting the car for more than 5 days then you should turn the Auto lights and wipers to the off position as this will drain your battery, this sounds crazy but its true!

This happened to my brother in law's Jag XKR..very embarrasing

angie4m · 20th April 2008, 09:02

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Originally Posted by AndyC

It shouldn't matter to them whether or not you were doing 96mph anyway - the car can go over 140 after all. As for 9600rpm - does the rev limiter not do what it says and limit the revs even if you miss a gear? Is that not why we have such electronic trickery in the first place?

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Originally Posted by cnicolini

True, the mechanic is talking out of his rear end! LOL If you could get the engine to as they say 9,600rpm then thats another fault with the car, the rev limiter is nt working! I'm sorry to say that maybe because you are a woman they may expect you to believe anything.

Actually its not a fault of the car if it does that, its called over revving which although the car hits the rev limiter it can still spin the engine as described by hondatech here Rev limiter = a valuable thing! introduced in the EP3 and it records a speed and rev indicator of when the fault occured it would seem, so if the engine failed then you would have a void warranty! Oh and you cannot over-rev the engine while in netural as the car stops it from going over 4000 rpm or something like that. Flyguy40 told me that the other night lol!

Actually I don't think the guy was saying that 'Just because i'm a woman' as he had a print out of the reading!!!!!! And thats when I told him again I was at 0mph and 0 rpm when the fault occured.

But back on subject, I'll not be doing that in a hurry again. It seems to be the battery draining that caused the issue or so it would seem. It also seems that if the SRS Airbag lights do eventually go off then its 'reset' itself and you don't have to take it to the dealers as they can only check the system when the light is still on! But the handbook tells you to get it checked and I thought I better cause of my long drive next weekend.

angie4m · 20th April 2008, 09:05

I also only drive my car once a week, sometimes it doesn't move for 3 weeks to a month and i've not turned the auto lights and wipers off although I do now have the wipers off as I don't want them going when i've got the rainx on the windscreen, but maybe I should switch the lights off? I've never had a problem starting it after this amount of time but maybe better to be safe than sorry

FWH · 20th April 2008, 09:06

Don´t confuse rev limiter with top speed limiter.

Munro · 20th April 2008, 09:23

If you leave your car unused for a long period and have problems with the battery draining, it may be worth connecting it up to a battery conditioner charger.

I use an Optimate charger for my bike over the winter and it keeps the battery in top condition. It comes with a plug in connector so once installed it is a 10 second job to plug it in and charge. It is also automatic so you can leave it charging all the time.

OptiMate 3SP Battery Optimiser - FREE UK DELIVERY

angie4m · 20th April 2008, 09:26

Got one already, actually we have two for some mad reason

Dimplyred · 20th April 2008, 09:43

Do you use one though, because eventually, leaving it repeatedly for long periods, the battery won't hold a charge.

Munro · 20th April 2008, 10:07

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Originally Posted by Dimplyred

Do you use one though, because eventually, leaving it repeatedly for long periods, the battery won't hold a charge.

The optimate is supposed not to damage the battery if you leave it on for long periods - I have used it for years and had no problems. Some cheaper chargers are dangerous to leave on for long though !

Dimplyred · 20th April 2008, 10:14

Yes, it's an 'intelligent' charger, it monitors the charge in the battery and only trickle charges as and when needed once the battery is full.

jellstr · 20th April 2008, 10:35

Not sure if it is relevant in this discussion, but is worth noting that while sitting idle in the car with key in postion 2, the climate control does work.
I have had my battery run flat while playing with the Radio and Sat Nat for about an hour not realising the climate control fan running.
Next morning the dash lit up as normal, but could not turn the start-motor.
When sitting idle in the car, I now turn of the climate control completely to prevent this.

NH Dan · 20th April 2008, 18:49

I save my battery power and condition by not sitting idle in my car. I have a house for this.

angie4m · 20th April 2008, 19:44

Ah, but sitting with the car idle wouldn't cause this cause the engine would be on, Yes? But sitting in the car with the ignition on, but engine off when you have to pick someone else up because their d**khead of an ex girlfriend has slashed all their tyres and poured paint stripper over their new merc and you sit waiting on them to shift their arse then when they get themselves outside they can't actually decide what to do now would cause a drain on the battery. But some of us actually have lives and do venture out the front door other than to go to work or shops!

simon1 · 20th April 2008, 23:43

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Originally Posted by angie4m

I can only but imagine how difficult it would be to prove to Honda as my dealer wouldn't let me phone the person who was with me who would have confirmed where we were, what the weather was like and the fact we had been sat parked up for that length of time.

What...is this dealer Hitler or something? Have you got a mobile?

ghowarth · 22nd April 2008, 06:54

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Originally Posted by NH Dan

I save my battery power and condition by not sitting idle in my car. I have a house for this.

Thats a little harsh Dan.........
I had my radio on whilst cleaning mine..........and it totally drained the battery........this has never happened on ANY car I have had before......and as the Honda Assist chap said this happens a lot on these cars......the battery is not BIG enough for the job

!!

robbo51 · 22nd April 2008, 06:56

The battery on a diesel is different.
Does this have problems?

angie4m · 23rd April 2008, 11:03

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Originally Posted by simon1

What...is this dealer Hitler or something? Have you got a mobile?

Well God knows who he was. I Did have my mobile in my hand and actually started calling my mate, but the guy didn't want to know!.....But the dealership has just gone right down in my estimation. My Dad's mate took his CTR in for some work on Friday....picked it up (they always bring it to the door for you) got it home and discovered that someone has bashed his door in while its been there!

He is not happy, as anyone would not be. Can only but imagine what problems he is going to have with them now! And my Dad wondered why I wanted to wait on my car the other morning, for this very reason as there is no room to swing a cat in the car park!

cnicolini · 23rd April 2008, 12:23

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Originally Posted by angie4m

Well God knows who he was. I Did have my mobile in my hand and actually started calling my mate, but the guy didn't want to know!.....But the dealership has just gone right down in my estimation. My Dad's mate took his CTR in for some work on Friday....picked it up (they always bring it to the door for you) got it home and discovered that someone has bashed his door in while its been there!

He is not happy, as anyone would not be. Can only but imagine what problems he is going to have with them now! And my Dad wondered why I wanted to wait on my car the other morning, for this very reason as there is no room to swing a cat in the car park!

I always take a quick look around my car after any service of when ever it goes in, you can't trust anybody. If it went in fine I'd expect it back fine, if the mechanic leaves it in the car park and its dented then as far as I'm concerned they are responsibile, they parked it there!

angie4m · 23rd April 2008, 19:57

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Originally Posted by cnicolini

I always take a quick look around my car after any service of when ever it goes in, you can't trust anybody. If it went in fine I'd expect it back fine, if the mechanic leaves it in the car park and its dented then as far as I'm concerned they are responsibile, they parked it there!

Snap! I had a few issues with things going wrong at BMW and I always make sure I go round the car before I leave. That way they can't say 'Wasn't us'

cnicolini · 24th April 2008, 11:25

I saw a customer shout abuse at a salesmen before, they brought a brand new Peugoet at the Waltham Cross/Herts branch, and did nt check it properly when they left. The sales guy had parked it right up against a wall and had hidden a dent in the boot. Then when the customer got home and noticed it they went mad, they would nt of picked the car up if the had seen it at the beginning. I would of demanded another brand new car!

iamholam · 24th April 2008, 14:05

Angie. Out of interest which of the Honda dealers do you recommend as I will be using them in Edinburgh to service my car...

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20th April 2008, 09:05	#43 (permalink)
angie4m You know you want too Rocketship door handle Join Date: 28th September 2007 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 1,670	I also only drive my car once a week, sometimes it doesn't move for 3 weeks to a month and i've not turned the auto lights and wipers off although I do now have the wipers off as I don't want them going when i've got the rainx on the windscreen, but maybe I should switch the lights off? I've never had a problem starting it after this amount of time but maybe better to be safe than sorry

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FWH Super Moderator Civinfo guru Join Date: 3rd June 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 4,173	Don´t confuse rev limiter with top speed limiter.

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Munro Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 10th August 2007 Location: Scotland Posts: 896	If you leave your car unused for a long period and have problems with the battery draining, it may be worth connecting it up to a battery conditioner charger. I use an Optimate charger for my bike over the winter and it keeps the battery in top condition. It comes with a plug in connector so once installed it is a 10 second job to plug it in and charge. It is also automatic so you can leave it charging all the time. OptiMate 3SP Battery Optimiser - FREE UK DELIVERY

20th April 2008, 09:26	#46 (permalink)
angie4m You know you want too Rocketship door handle Join Date: 28th September 2007 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 1,670	Got one already, actually we have two for some mad reason

20th April 2008, 09:43	#47 (permalink)
Dimplyred Type R GT 09570 Civinfo guru Join Date: 24th August 2007 Location: Staffordshire Posts: 2,351	Do you use one though, because eventually, leaving it repeatedly for long periods, the battery won't hold a charge.

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Dimplyred Type R GT 09570 Civinfo guru Join Date: 24th August 2007 Location: Staffordshire Posts: 2,351	Yes, it's an 'intelligent' charger, it monitors the charge in the battery and only trickle charges as and when needed once the battery is full.

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jellstr Valve Cap Join Date: 18th November 2006 Location: Schiedam - NL Posts: 4	Not sure if it is relevant in this discussion, but is worth noting that while sitting idle in the car with key in postion 2, the climate control does work. I have had my battery run flat while playing with the Radio and Sat Nat for about an hour not realising the climate control fan running. Next morning the dash lit up as normal, but could not turn the start-motor. When sitting idle in the car, I now turn of the climate control completely to prevent this.

20th April 2008, 18:49	#51 (permalink)
NH Dan Newton Honda Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 31st January 2008 Location: South London,Uk Posts: 441	I save my battery power and condition by not sitting idle in my car. I have a house for this.

20th April 2008, 19:44	#52 (permalink)
angie4m You know you want too Rocketship door handle Join Date: 28th September 2007 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 1,670	Ah, but sitting with the car idle wouldn't cause this cause the engine would be on, Yes? But sitting in the car with the ignition on, but engine off when you have to pick someone else up because their d**khead of an ex girlfriend has slashed all their tyres and poured paint stripper over their new merc and you sit waiting on them to shift their arse then when they get themselves outside they can't actually decide what to do now would cause a drain on the battery. But some of us actually have lives and do venture out the front door other than to go to work or shops!

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22nd April 2008, 06:56	#55 (permalink)
robbo51 Type S GT Civinfo guru Join Date: 1st July 2007 Location: Bingley, W.Yorks Posts: 2,193	The battery on a diesel is different. Does this have problems?

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cnicolini Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 15th August 2007 Location: Hertfordshire Posts: 379	I saw a customer shout abuse at a salesmen before, they brought a brand new Peugoet at the Waltham Cross/Herts branch, and did nt check it properly when they left. The sales guy had parked it right up against a wall and had hidden a dent in the boot. Then when the customer got home and noticed it they went mad, they would nt of picked the car up if the had seen it at the beginning. I would of demanded another brand new car!

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iamholam Wheelnut Join Date: 9th April 2008 Location: Livingston Posts: 70	Angie. Out of interest which of the Honda dealers do you recommend as I will be using them in Edinburgh to service my car...