Vehicle Registration Certificate

smb09_1999 · 28th March 2007, 09:54

Received a letter yesterday morning from Honda informing me that my V5C (Vehicle Registration Certificate) was incorrect.

"This is due to the AFRL (Automated First Registration & Licensing) computerised system obtaining model data from a new database which was incorrectly populated.

The result of this is an incorrect statement on the V5 concerning the model description which currently shows an incorrect Carbon Dioxide emissions figure; this should read 135g k/m".

this means I have to send off my V5C to Honda and I will then receive a corrected registration certificate form the DVLA.

Has anyone else had a similar letter? Also - for those of you who haven't received a letter, it may be worthwhile making sure your V5C has an emissions figure of 135 and NOT 140 g k/m like mine.

apemonkeyman · 28th March 2007, 09:56

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Originally Posted by smb09_1999

this should read 1315g k/m".

Ouch, the tax on that will be painful.

smb09_1999 · 28th March 2007, 10:01

haha, whoops! now corrected. damn, that'd be expensive.

bubbs27 · 28th March 2007, 11:22

Hmm.

My V5 says 140g/km too.

Maybe I'll get a letter too.

madasadad · 28th March 2007, 11:43

Mine says 135 for my ES cdti.

blzb0b · 28th March 2007, 13:00

Mine says 215g - any way I can get this lowered

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Honda100 · 28th March 2007, 13:49

I have also had this letter. I am glad that someone else has received it as I always very wary of unsolicited mail, even though it looks very genuine, and sending off a V5 is not the norm.

basegreen · 28th March 2007, 13:54

Worth a check. Does it make any difference though?

bubbs27 · 28th March 2007, 16:59

Apparently it doesn't (at least for road tax costs).

http://www.vcacarfueldata.org.uk/search/vedSearch.asp

^^ emissions bands for road tax.

l-noel · 28th March 2007, 17:22

I've had a look at the ADEME web site (it's the french organism looking after Energy and environmental preservation) They dont even know that the new civic exist with a diesel engine (they just quote the old 1.6 ES civic

So I had a look for the Accord : They quote a 144 g/km and they said that the most ecological car for that type of cars...

So I presume the civic must be well quoted too !

(The best one is the Volkswagen Lupo 1.2 TDI 3 litres BA with a quote of 80 g/km and a fuel consumption of 3.38 l/100 km)

MC Hammer · 28th March 2007, 20:19

On the Honda UK site the figure is quoted at 135 for all 5 door diesel cars; also on the VCA site:

http://www.vcacarfueldata.org.uk/sea...rchResults.asp

Still dubious of sending off the V5 to get one back from a different source.

Pudd · 28th March 2007, 20:36

This will have been an arrangement made between DVLA and Honda. It's not the first time a Manufacturer has populated it's database with incorrect details for CO2 or number of doors etc. Honda will need to collect all the V5s in question and send them to DVLA in a couple of batches where they will be corrected and a new V5 issued.

DaveC · 28th March 2007, 20:51

My V5C states 140g/km too, I've not received any letter from honda yet.

I thought it was strange that it stated a different figure than the website, but after I checked it wouldn't affect the road tax cost I didn't bother about it.

Hartside · 28th March 2007, 21:00

The 5 dr diesel Ex outputs 140g/km CO2, due to the rolling resistance of the larger wheels. It's on the Honda website

Glass Spider · 29th March 2007, 20:50

I got the letter too saying to send v5 back for them to get it amended to 135 from 140

dsmilie432 · 30th March 2007, 08:25

while we are on about co2 emmissions - can anyone check these calculations of mine.

A CDTi - band C @ 135 g/km against a Type R - band F @ 205 g/km is a difference of 80 g/km. Doing an annual 12,000 miles (19,312 km) gives an annual co2 kg output difference of 80g x 19312 km /1000 = 1544 kg of co2 emmissions.
On the carbon offset site( http://www.co2balance.com/pages.php?pageid=109 ) this can be offset at a cost of at £13.50

so why is the difference between band C and band F = £90???

Ok a bit simplistic , but does it show how us motorists are being ripped off?

apemonkeyman · 30th March 2007, 09:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by dsmilie432

while we are on about co2 emmissions - can anyone check these calculations of mine.

A CDTi - band C @ 135 g/km against a Type R - band F @ 205 g/km is a difference of 80 g/km. Doing an annual 12,000 miles (19,312 km) gives an annual co2 kg output difference of 80g x 19312 km /1000 = 1544 kg of co2 emmissions.
On the carbon offset site( http://www.co2balance.com/pages.php?pageid=109 ) this can be offset at a cost of at £13.50

so why is the difference between band C and band F = £90???

Ok a bit simplistic , but does it show how us motorists are being ripped off?

That'll be cos VED is not about offsetting - it's about generating revenue to build roads, subsidise public transport, build hospitals, provide housing for spongers, fight wars, etc etc etc.

Not necessarily in that order of priority.

Drivers subsidise EVERYTHING ELSE.

Oh yeah, 205 - 135 = 70, not 80.

smb09_1999 · 19th April 2007, 22:44

Anybody had their new forms yet? No sign of mine yet.

pjelsworth · 20th April 2007, 09:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by apemonkeyman

Oh yeah, 205 - 135 = 70, not 80.

Maybe a typo. Someone mentioned above that the Type R is 215

Maldax · 23rd April 2007, 19:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by dsmilie432

while we are on about co2 emmissions - can anyone check these calculations of mine.

A CDTi - band C @ 135 g/km against a Type R - band F @ 205 g/km is a difference of 80 g/km. Doing an annual 12,000 miles (19,312 km) gives an annual co2 kg output difference of 80g x 19312 km /1000 = 1544 kg of co2 emmissions.
On the carbon offset site( http://www.co2balance.com/pages.php?pageid=109 ) this can be offset at a cost of at £13.50

so why is the difference between band C and band F = £90???

Ok a bit simplistic , but does it show how us motorists are being ripped off?

Yes we are all being ripped off in the name of 'global warming'

28th March 2007, 09:54	#1 (permalink)
smb09_1999 Nneeaawwwwwwww Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 15th February 2007 Location: North East Posts: 389 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Vehicle Registration Certificate Received a letter yesterday morning from Honda informing me that my V5C (Vehicle Registration Certificate) was incorrect. "This is due to the AFRL (Automated First Registration & Licensing) computerised system obtaining model data from a new database which was incorrectly populated. The result of this is an incorrect statement on the V5 concerning the model description which currently shows an incorrect Carbon Dioxide emissions figure; this should read 135g k/m". this means I have to send off my V5C to Honda and I will then receive a corrected registration certificate form the DVLA. Has anyone else had a similar letter? Also - for those of you who haven't received a letter, it may be worthwhile making sure your V5C has an emissions figure of 135 and NOT 140 g k/m like mine. Last edited by smb09_1999; 28th March 2007 at 10:01.

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This thread is about: Vehicle Registration Certificate, it's in Buying, Dealers and Servicing at the Honda Civic forum Civinfo; Received a letter yesterday morning from Honda informing me that my V5C (Vehicle Registration Certificate) was incorrect. "This is due to the AFRL (Automated First ...

28th March 2007, 10:01	#3 (permalink)
smb09_1999 Nneeaawwwwwwww Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 15th February 2007 Location: North East Posts: 389 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	haha, whoops! now corrected. damn, that'd be expensive.

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bubbs27 Supporter Valve Cap Join Date: 8th March 2007 Location: Crowborough, East Sussex Posts: 17 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Hmm. My V5 says 140g/km too. Maybe I'll get a letter too.

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madasadad Supporter Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 21st February 2007 Location: Carrickfergus Posts: 273 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Mine says 135 for my ES cdti.

28th March 2007, 13:00	#6 (permalink)
blzb0b Wheelnut Join Date: 17th December 2006 Posts: 99 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Mine says 215g - any way I can get this lowered ? ------------------------------------------- Type R GT + SatNav + HFT + Mats

28th March 2007, 13:49	#7 (permalink)
Honda100 Supporter Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 31st May 2006 Location: Stockport Posts: 246 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	I have also had this letter. I am glad that someone else has received it as I always very wary of unsolicited mail, even though it looks very genuine, and sending off a V5 is not the norm.

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basegreen Super Moderator Civinfo guru Join Date: 15th April 2006 Location: noitacoL Posts: 2,904 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts iTrader: (0)	Worth a check. Does it make any difference though?

28th March 2007, 16:59	#9 (permalink)
bubbs27 Supporter Valve Cap Join Date: 8th March 2007 Location: Crowborough, East Sussex Posts: 17 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Apparently it doesn't (at least for road tax costs). http://www.vcacarfueldata.org.uk/search/vedSearch.asp ^^ emissions bands for road tax.

28th March 2007, 17:22	#10 (permalink)
l-noel Wine and cooking ! Rocketship door handle Join Date: 5th December 2006 Location: Roanne-France Posts: 1,328 Thanks: 4 Thanked 8 Times in 4 Posts iTrader: (0)	I've had a look at the ADEME web site (it's the french organism looking after Energy and environmental preservation) They dont even know that the new civic exist with a diesel engine (they just quote the old 1.6 ES civic So I had a look for the Accord : They quote a 144 g/km and they said that the most ecological car for that type of cars... So I presume the civic must be well quoted too ! (The best one is the Volkswagen Lupo 1.2 TDI 3 litres BA with a quote of 80 g/km and a fuel consumption of 3.38 l/100 km)

28th March 2007, 20:19	#11 (permalink)
MC Hammer Kids use a lot of space Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 16th June 2006 Location: UK Posts: 637 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader: (0)	On the Honda UK site the figure is quoted at 135 for all 5 door diesel cars; also on the VCA site: http://www.vcacarfueldata.org.uk/sea...rchResults.asp Still dubious of sending off the V5 to get one back from a different source.

28th March 2007, 20:36	#12 (permalink)
Pudd Valve Cap Join Date: 26th June 2006 Location: Swansea Posts: 27 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	This will have been an arrangement made between DVLA and Honda. It's not the first time a Manufacturer has populated it's database with incorrect details for CO2 or number of doors etc. Honda will need to collect all the V5s in question and send them to DVLA in a couple of batches where they will be corrected and a new V5 issued.

28th March 2007, 20:51	#13 (permalink)
DaveC Supporter Wheelnut Join Date: 26th February 2007 Location: Central Scotland Posts: 56 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	My V5C states 140g/km too, I've not received any letter from honda yet. I thought it was strange that it stated a different figure than the website, but after I checked it wouldn't affect the road tax cost I didn't bother about it.

28th March 2007, 21:00	#14 (permalink)
Hartside Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 4th May 2006 Location: Northumberland Posts: 562 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	The 5 dr diesel Ex outputs 140g/km CO2, due to the rolling resistance of the larger wheels. It's on the Honda website

29th March 2007, 20:50	#15 (permalink)
Glass Spider Supporter Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 15th June 2006 Location: London Posts: 312 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	I got the letter too saying to send v5 back for them to get it amended to 135 from 140

30th March 2007, 08:25	#16 (permalink)
dsmilie432 Valve Cap Join Date: 26th September 2006 Posts: 27 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	while we are on about co2 emmissions - can anyone check these calculations of mine. A CDTi - band C @ 135 g/km against a Type R - band F @ 205 g/km is a difference of 80 g/km. Doing an annual 12,000 miles (19,312 km) gives an annual co2 kg output difference of 80g x 19312 km /1000 = 1544 kg of co2 emmissions. On the carbon offset site( http://www.co2balance.com/pages.php?pageid=109 ) this can be offset at a cost of at £13.50 so why is the difference between band C and band F = £90??? Ok a bit simplistic , but does it show how us motorists are being ripped off?

19th April 2007, 22:44	#18 (permalink)
smb09_1999 Nneeaawwwwwwww Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 15th February 2007 Location: North East Posts: 389 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Anybody had their new forms yet? No sign of mine yet.