Dealers Dealership trying it on... badly.

axletramp · 30th June 2011, 16:15

Today I experienced the most blatant example of a dealership - dare I say it - scam. My 2006 ES has an issue with the alarm (I have a thread about it) and my local dealership kindly said they would fix it for free as long as I could get it to them.

So, off it went this morning (£35 local recovery firm) and later today I got a call from a guy in sales saying that he'd see my car in the forecourt and knew a customer who was after just a model with low mileage. Mine has done less than 4K a year (we bought a Chrysler Grand Voyager for the school runs and holidays, etc) and was curious. He explains that if I sold it privately I would only get about £5K (!) for it but he was willing to offer me £8K as a favour to the other customer (alarm bells starting up).

He then adds - get this - that to get the £8K he would offer me a brand new Civic Ti for £10K (total price £18K)! Taken aback I then pointed out that his 'offer' was basically get me to spend £10K with the dealership. The conversation then broke down very quickly once he realised I knew he was trying it on and had no interest in trading.

I'm guessing times are hard for everyone, including Honda dealerships, but this was just such a blatant attempt at making a sale it made me laugh! He actually took the time out to look at the car, find out who owned it and call them. I wonder if this is their policy when any 5+ year old Hondas come in.

Has anyone else experienced anything like this?

(I didn't even know the Civic Ti existed until I looked it up! Quite nice really

)

Dave.M89 · 30th June 2011, 16:24

This is standard policy for car salesmen. Nothing unusual going on there.

mpn_daedalus · 30th June 2011, 16:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave.M89

This is standard policy for car salesmen. Nothing unusual going on there.

+1

EMG tried the exact same thing with me the other week.

I told them I'd already sold the car and got a new one. They said, well why not trade in your new one for a newer one...persistant buggers

Woette · 30th June 2011, 17:09

And did they fix the alarm?

Jack The Lad. · 30th June 2011, 17:34

They certainly fixed Axletramp's alarm.

Tis all part of the game called :- making a living.

robbo51 · 30th June 2011, 17:37

They all do it!

Jack The Lad. · 30th June 2011, 17:41

How are you doing robbo - A day off for you today then ?
You only organised it, so you could watch Sharapova play.

robbo51 · 30th June 2011, 19:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack The Lad.

How are you doing robbo - A day off for you today then ?
You only organised it, so you could watch Sharapova play.

No...Normal day..90% of our staff are not in the ATL or NUT
I will not watch Sharapova either!!
Hideous grunting puts me off.

Kimotherapy · 30th June 2011, 20:32

theres nothing wrong with beautiful russian women grunting.

Jack The Lad. · 30th June 2011, 20:38

Exactly.
Must admit that she didn't serve very well though.
She will have to do better on Saturday, even if it means louder grunts.

doogle · 30th June 2011, 20:53

A salesman did the same to me! Whilst I was on the phone I asked him to look at my car a bit closer and tell me why he thought I would want to pay to trade it in for a standard fn2! His response was what was an fn2?

gjackson · 30th June 2011, 22:46

What part was a scam?

The Lum · 30th June 2011, 23:08

A 2006 Civic getting £8k trade in I thought was good?

ash_rage · 1st July 2011, 00:07

Good trade in price i thought, youve missed the boat there.

Only scam here is the sporty Civic Ti having a 1.4 engine. erm hello??!?

Loxy · 1st July 2011, 00:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by ash_rage

Good trade in price i thought, youve missed the boat there.

Only scam here is the sporty Civic Ti having a 1.4 engine. erm hello??!?

You can get it as a 1.8 as well, but have to agree neither are K20s.

http://www.honda.co.uk/cars/civic5door/#civicti

ash_rage · 1st July 2011, 00:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loxy

You can get it as a 1.8 as well, but have to agree neither are K20s.

Honda Civic 5 Door | Book Test Drive | Specification, Finance & Information

The 1.4 engine shouldnt even be an option.

Honda didnt think about that one.

Why are they on this save the polar bears campaign, yet in USA they are still pumping out monstors. They must think really low of the UK market.

Loxy · 1st July 2011, 01:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by ash_rage

The 1.4 engine shouldnt even be an option.

Honda didnt think about that one.

Why are they on this save the polar bears campaign, yet in USA they are still pumping out monstors. They must think really low of the UK market.

Way the world is going.

It is just going to take a while longer to convince the US market but with their emission laws tightening they won't be too far behind.

ash_rage · 1st July 2011, 01:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loxy

Way the world is going.

It is just going to take a while longer to convince the US market but with their emission laws tightening they won't be too far behind.

Plus look at what they pay for a barrel of gasoline.

Hacks me off, feels like Honda have ditched us petrolheads in the UK.

NH Dan · 1st July 2011, 10:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by gjackson

What part was a scam?

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Lum

A 2006 Civic getting £8k trade in I thought was good?

Quote:

Originally Posted by ash_rage

Good trade in price i thought, youve missed the boat there.

Only scam here is the sporty Civic Ti having a 1.4 engine. erm hello??!?

The above posts say it all. what EXACTLY did the salesguy do wrong? He saw a car come in, took the time to check it over, find out who the owner was and offer them the opportunity of trading in for a newer car?

The scam would have been if you'd had the new one delivered back to you with a bill for it.

VtecAndy · 1st July 2011, 11:05

Yea I've heard this happen, another method they use is they send you a letter.
The letter says how your car is sought after and that they want to buy it off you, obviosuly you'll have to buy a new car in the process...

I guess it's not an all out scam but they way they go about it is a bit shady and dishonest. They could just say, btw your car would be worth £xxxx if you traded in now.

30th June 2011, 16:15	#1 (permalink)
axletramp Join Date: 28th June 2011 Location: Jersey, Channel Islands Posts: 8 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Dealership trying it on... badly. Today I experienced the most blatant example of a dealership - dare I say it - scam. My 2006 ES has an issue with the alarm (I have a thread about it) and my local dealership kindly said they would fix it for free as long as I could get it to them. So, off it went this morning (£35 local recovery firm) and later today I got a call from a guy in sales saying that he'd see my car in the forecourt and knew a customer who was after just a model with low mileage. Mine has done less than 4K a year (we bought a Chrysler Grand Voyager for the school runs and holidays, etc) and was curious. He explains that if I sold it privately I would only get about £5K (!) for it but he was willing to offer me £8K as a favour to the other customer (alarm bells starting up). He then adds - get this - that to get the £8K he would offer me a brand new Civic Ti for £10K (total price £18K)! Taken aback I then pointed out that his 'offer' was basically get me to spend £10K with the dealership. The conversation then broke down very quickly once he realised I knew he was trying it on and had no interest in trading. I'm guessing times are hard for everyone, including Honda dealerships, but this was just such a blatant attempt at making a sale it made me laugh! He actually took the time out to look at the car, find out who owned it and call them. I wonder if this is their policy when any 5+ year old Hondas come in. Has anyone else experienced anything like this? (I didn't even know the Civic Ti existed until I looked it up! Quite nice really )

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30th June 2011, 16:24	#2 (permalink)
Dave.M89 This may be spam Car: 2010 DSB CTR Join Date: 25th August 2008 Location: Portsmouth Posts: 1,459 Thanks given: 42 Thanked 114 Times in 101 Posts iTrader: (1)	This is standard policy for car salesmen. Nothing unusual going on there.

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Woette Car: '07 1.8 MR Type-S 63000 km Join Date: 7th October 2007 Location: Leuven, Belgium Posts: 1,846 Thanks given: 90 Thanked 117 Times in 116 Posts iTrader: (0)	And did they fix the alarm?

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Jack The Lad. Supporter Join Date: 28th August 2007 Location: ENGLAND Posts: 4,397 Thanks given: 20 Thanked 263 Times in 256 Posts iTrader: (0)	They certainly fixed Axletramp's alarm. Tis all part of the game called :- making a living.

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Jack The Lad. Supporter Join Date: 28th August 2007 Location: ENGLAND Posts: 4,397 Thanks given: 20 Thanked 263 Times in 256 Posts iTrader: (0)	How are you doing robbo - A day off for you today then ? You only organised it, so you could watch Sharapova play.

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Kimotherapy ON A STEEL WOK I FRY Car: S2000 Join Date: 23rd May 2009 Location: Ho Chi Minh Posts: 2,475 Thanks given: 187 Thanked 300 Times in 275 Posts iTrader: (2)	theres nothing wrong with beautiful russian women grunting.

30th June 2011, 20:38	#10 (permalink)
Jack The Lad. Supporter Join Date: 28th August 2007 Location: ENGLAND Posts: 4,397 Thanks given: 20 Thanked 263 Times in 256 Posts iTrader: (0)	Exactly. Must admit that she didn't serve very well though. She will have to do better on Saturday, even if it means louder grunts.

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doogle Supporter Join Date: 26th July 2009 Location: Warwickshire Posts: 590 Thanks given: 17 Thanked 34 Times in 33 Posts iTrader: (1)	A salesman did the same to me! Whilst I was on the phone I asked him to look at my car a bit closer and tell me why he thought I would want to pay to trade it in for a standard fn2! His response was what was an fn2?

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The Lum Join Date: 19th March 2011 Location: Stirling, Scotland Posts: 106 Thanks given: 2 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts iTrader: (0)	A 2006 Civic getting £8k trade in I thought was good?

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ash_rage Supporter Car: CTR GT Join Date: 14th January 2010 Location: London and Essex Posts: 6,436 Thanks given: 702 Thanked 559 Times in 468 Posts iTrader: (21)	Good trade in price i thought, youve missed the boat there. Only scam here is the sporty Civic Ti having a 1.4 engine. erm hello??!?

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VtecAndy Car: Bronze CTR Join Date: 18th January 2010 Location: Newcastle/Teesside Posts: 336 Thanks given: 2 Thanked 13 Times in 13 Posts iTrader: (0)	Yea I've heard this happen, another method they use is they send you a letter. The letter says how your car is sought after and that they want to buy it off you, obviosuly you'll have to buy a new car in the process... I guess it's not an all out scam but they way they go about it is a bit shady and dishonest. They could just say, btw your car would be worth £xxxx if you traded in now.