Price New Civic 2.0i Type R GT - £17,600

psykik · 21st November 2007, 03:05

amazing price

but caveat - Dealer IS reliable from my research: before buying my Civic i almost bought an EOS from them. Decided not to since car was Imported from Malta...therefore check carefully.

Motor Provider, Car Supermarket for Cheap New Cars - New Cars, Used Cars, Vans, Buy a Car at Motor Provider for a Cheap Car Price

when compared with autobytel (normally cheaper guide price)
New Honda Civic Prices - Buy Honda Civic at Autobytel UK

Saving is £1000+

Hmmm....

coolio · 21st November 2007, 06:39

It's only about £60 more from Carfile - these prices are too tempting to miss out on! which is UK dealer sourced.

nellz_bassettshonda · 21st November 2007, 09:16

£1000 off a New Type R - Thats incredible.
How quickly can they get a car though ? Gotta be a min of 20 weeks

coolio · 21st November 2007, 09:20

I enquired as I was after 1st March reg, and was told that's fine. Also allow for add ons, so decals, etc can be added to the spec at normal prices. The guy who runs the company was a Honda dealer for 12 years.

mrh339 · 21st November 2007, 09:28

Personally i would be happy to pay £1000 more not to have a grey import.

coolio · 21st November 2007, 09:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrh339

Personally i would be happy to pay £1000 more not to have a grey import.

Carfile are from a UK dealer

psykik · 21st November 2007, 10:03

I'd say given a choice of an imported car and a uk car, i'd buy uk everytime if the price difference wasnt significant - ie in this case as mentioned by Coolio, if its only £60 more, go with carfile.

Good luck!

psykik · 21st November 2007, 11:45

with thanks to Coolio - from carfile:

SEARCH RESULTS Honda Civic Type-R
Your results are shown below. To configure a vehicle click on the configure icon to the right of that vehicle.

Vehicle Our Price Saving HP PCP NEXT STEP Honda Civic Type-R
2.0 i-VTEC 3dr£16,698.27£928.73£493.00£0.00[configure »»] Honda Civic Type-R
2.0 i-VTEC GT 3dr£17,646.85£980.15£521.00£0.00[configure »»]

this could be used for bargaining!

coolio · 21st November 2007, 11:48

I think autoebid is aiming a tad lower but carfile is more straight fwd. I sent them some emails and they replied v quickly and with full answers. Even offered a chat with the dealer, no commitment.

psykik · 21st November 2007, 12:00

coolio - the one thing about carfile is the options ie sat nav seem to be at full factory cost, not discounted. On Autoebid, you do get the chance that when a dealer bids for your sale, you can talk to them and negotiate further discounts on extras. BUT with autoebid its an upfront fee, whereas from what i can see, carfile is free. Maybe with carfile, you can also contact dealers and negotiate prices of addons? If so, then carfile would be my choice over autoebid.

coolio · 21st November 2007, 12:10

so with autoebid, say i want a certain spec, i give a target price, and have to pay. if no-one meets that target price, im out of pocket? Is that right? I had a look on their sight and am a bit bamboozled. Also a bit concerned about what effect Clarksons comments will have on residuals now

psykik · 22nd November 2007, 02:21

coolio with autoebid, you pre authorise a payment of say £100 on a £15k car and name a price and spec youre prepared to pay for it, say £13.5k. If a dealer bids for your sale then you pay 13.5k to dealer and say £100 fee to autoebid.

The figures can change depending on how much is saved and so can the fee, but thats the idea. If noone bids for your sale, you dont pay anything. The good thing is when dealers bid, you can negotiate with them on extras by email, this way get your £100 back plus a bit more if youre lucky.

Id still take carfile if you get dealer contact on that, without the fee involved, but with autoebid, you might get lucky and get 4 dealers bidding for your sale, and each time they bid, your pice goes down. Youre free to negotiate with anyone who bids, not just the last one, and pick the best deal.

coolio · 25th November 2007, 08:30

Thanks

So I had a test drive and tried to negotiate prices and the salesman said that matching carfile or drivethedeal is below cost, which I find a bit hard to believe. He also said speifically that DTD has sourced/imported Hondas from Cyprus so using such companies would mean you're care is worthles if you try and sell and that even the legit ones, wait time can be 1year+. Not that I believe him whatsoever.

nellz_bassettshonda · 25th November 2007, 14:07

Coolio , DTD has been known to source cars from Cyprus & Malta but the majority are uk spec cars so I would'nt worry too much

kevj121 · 25th November 2007, 20:20

bargained with my dealer and got a £1000 off the price for basic GT no extras.

nellz_bassettshonda · 25th November 2007, 21:40

, wait time can be 1year+.

Thats ridiculous !

cnicolini · 28th November 2007, 09:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrh339

Personally i would be happy to pay £1000 more not to have a grey import.

I dont think that you can class it as a grey import! Grey imports are cars made in Japan and then imported over here, afew mods need to be done before they are road legal for our roads. What sometimes happens is that cars are built here then exported to say Greece, then reimported back cheaper. I think its down to the amount of tax we pay our government, that brings our price up!

I suppose its still classed as a kind of import and the paper work wont be in English, and when you come to sell the car people will demand a cheaper price. So, you dont really gain anything from this kind of deal!

mrh339 · 28th November 2007, 10:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by cnicolini

I dont think that you can class it as a grey import! Grey imports are cars made in Japan and then imported over here, afew mods need to be done before they are road legal for our roads. What sometimes happens is that cars are built here then exported to say Greece, then reimported back cheaper. I think its down to the amount of tax we pay our government, that brings our price up!

I suppose its still classed as a kind of import and the paper work wont be in English, and when you come to sell the car people will demand a cheaper price. So, you dont really gain anything from this kind of deal!

Any imported car will not retain its value as a uk registered car and it will always show on the v5 and any hpi check as being an import, so save £1000 on purchase price and lose maybe £3000 on resale price.

Dimplyred · 28th November 2007, 10:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrh339

Any imported car will not retain its value as a uk registered car and it will always show on the v5 and any hpi check as being an import, so save £1000 on purchase price and lose maybe £3000 on resale price.

Doesn't sound as if a £1000 initial saving is such a good idea, does it

coolio · 28th November 2007, 10:19

The £1000 saving isn't an import though, it's from a UK dealer.

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21st November 2007, 06:39	#2 (permalink)
coolio Valve Cap Join Date: 12th November 2007 Posts: 17 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	It's only about £60 more from Carfile - these prices are too tempting to miss out on! which is UK dealer sourced.

21st November 2007, 09:16	#3 (permalink)
nellz_bassettshonda Bassetts Honda Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 25th February 2007 Location: Bridgend , South Wales Posts: 305 Thanks: 15 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader: (0)	£1000 off a New Type R - Thats incredible. How quickly can they get a car though ? Gotta be a min of 20 weeks

21st November 2007, 09:28	#5 (permalink)
mrh339 Supporter Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 27th September 2007 Location: Gloucestershire Posts: 429 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts iTrader: (0)	Personally i would be happy to pay £1000 more not to have a grey import.

21st November 2007, 10:03	#7 (permalink)
psykik Supporter Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 28th April 2007 Posts: 454 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts iTrader: (0)	I'd say given a choice of an imported car and a uk car, i'd buy uk everytime if the price difference wasnt significant - ie in this case as mentioned by Coolio, if its only £60 more, go with carfile. Good luck!

21st November 2007, 11:45	#8 (permalink)
psykik Supporter Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 28th April 2007 Posts: 454 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts iTrader: (0)	with thanks to Coolio - from carfile: SEARCH RESULTS Honda Civic Type-R Your results are shown below. To configure a vehicle click on the configure icon to the right of that vehicle. Vehicle Our Price Saving HP PCP NEXT STEP Honda Civic Type-R 2.0 i-VTEC 3dr£16,698.27£928.73£493.00£0.00[configure »»] Honda Civic Type-R 2.0 i-VTEC GT 3dr£17,646.85£980.15£521.00£0.00[configure »»] this could be used for bargaining!

21st November 2007, 11:48	#9 (permalink)
coolio Valve Cap Join Date: 12th November 2007 Posts: 17 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	I think autoebid is aiming a tad lower but carfile is more straight fwd. I sent them some emails and they replied v quickly and with full answers. Even offered a chat with the dealer, no commitment.

21st November 2007, 12:00	#10 (permalink)
psykik Supporter Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 28th April 2007 Posts: 454 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts iTrader: (0)	coolio - the one thing about carfile is the options ie sat nav seem to be at full factory cost, not discounted. On Autoebid, you do get the chance that when a dealer bids for your sale, you can talk to them and negotiate further discounts on extras. BUT with autoebid its an upfront fee, whereas from what i can see, carfile is free. Maybe with carfile, you can also contact dealers and negotiate prices of addons? If so, then carfile would be my choice over autoebid.

21st November 2007, 12:10	#11 (permalink)
coolio Valve Cap Join Date: 12th November 2007 Posts: 17 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	so with autoebid, say i want a certain spec, i give a target price, and have to pay. if no-one meets that target price, im out of pocket? Is that right? I had a look on their sight and am a bit bamboozled. Also a bit concerned about what effect Clarksons comments will have on residuals now

22nd November 2007, 02:21	#12 (permalink)
psykik Supporter Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 28th April 2007 Posts: 454 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts iTrader: (0)	coolio with autoebid, you pre authorise a payment of say £100 on a £15k car and name a price and spec youre prepared to pay for it, say £13.5k. If a dealer bids for your sale then you pay 13.5k to dealer and say £100 fee to autoebid. The figures can change depending on how much is saved and so can the fee, but thats the idea. If noone bids for your sale, you dont pay anything. The good thing is when dealers bid, you can negotiate with them on extras by email, this way get your £100 back plus a bit more if youre lucky. Id still take carfile if you get dealer contact on that, without the fee involved, but with autoebid, you might get lucky and get 4 dealers bidding for your sale, and each time they bid, your pice goes down. Youre free to negotiate with anyone who bids, not just the last one, and pick the best deal.

25th November 2007, 08:30	#13 (permalink)
coolio Valve Cap Join Date: 12th November 2007 Posts: 17 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Thanks So I had a test drive and tried to negotiate prices and the salesman said that matching carfile or drivethedeal is below cost, which I find a bit hard to believe. He also said speifically that DTD has sourced/imported Hondas from Cyprus so using such companies would mean you're care is worthles if you try and sell and that even the legit ones, wait time can be 1year+. Not that I believe him whatsoever.

25th November 2007, 14:07	#14 (permalink)
nellz_bassettshonda Bassetts Honda Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 25th February 2007 Location: Bridgend , South Wales Posts: 305 Thanks: 15 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader: (0)	Coolio , DTD has been known to source cars from Cyprus & Malta but the majority are uk spec cars so I would'nt worry too much

25th November 2007, 20:20	#15 (permalink)
kevj121 KevJ121 Valve Cap Join Date: 15th September 2007 Location: Sunderland Posts: 43 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	bargained with my dealer and got a £1000 off the price for basic GT no extras.

25th November 2007, 21:40	#16 (permalink)
nellz_bassettshonda Bassetts Honda Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 25th February 2007 Location: Bridgend , South Wales Posts: 305 Thanks: 15 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader: (0)	, wait time can be 1year+. Thats ridiculous !

28th November 2007, 10:19	#20 (permalink)
coolio Valve Cap Join Date: 12th November 2007 Posts: 17 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	The £1000 saving isn't an import though, it's from a UK dealer.