Applying a sealant

[Speedy471]

I polished and waxed my car with petes 53, 3 weeks ago and still seems to be beading when it rains. After reading a bit more into detailing I have found that sealing the paintwork with Carlack Nano systematic care before a wax would greatly enhance protection. Now, I plan to apply the sealer and wax this weekend if the weather holds out, and just wondered if it would be considered ok to apply the sealer on top of 3 week old wax. I noticed that the carlack also contains a cleaner, so im hoping that this will mean that the remaining wax on the paintwork will not need to be striped seperately first.

[Homer Simpson]

Unfortunately you will need to start again

Wash the wax off with some hot water with washing up liquid in it instead of your normal cleaner. Then seal and then wax.

[flyguy40@]

Could someone tell me the best things to use to seal and wax the car,from new!Thanks oh,and where to get the stuff!Cheers

[R GT]

Homer is correct start again although washing up liquid will not remove the polymers contained in Petes 53 wax you will need a pre wax cleaner of some kind available from most outlets although i use scratch x by maguirs to remove swirl marks etc before applying Carlack sealent for the first time. i then apply the carlack new paint system without first removing the sealant as it states on the bottle to stop buffing twice. also never apply another make of wax in the first 24 hours of sealing with carlack as it needs to bond with the paintwork first. thankfully it is easy to apply and remove so you should enjoy the work and the shine good luck.

[R GT]

Flyguy40 this stuff is the best by far for sealing and i then use p21 wax after a few months but the choice on wax is personal i think try several and see what you like.
Carlack 68 Sealant Kit

[Speedy471]

hmmm is another option to wait until the wax stops the water from beading then apply the sealant? Also whats the worst that would happen applying sealant to 3 week old wax? Thanks.

[robbo51]

Collinite as a wax...Awesome

[Kremmen]

Be wary of washing up liquid, it contains salt which will scratch the paint.

[flyguy40@]

Meant to say,my one will be silver,any difference?Thanks

[PJS]

Originally Posted by Kremmen

Be wary of washing up liquid, it contains salt which will scratch the paint.

Rubbish! Don't know who told you that, but they were yanking your chain.
The salt in washing-up liquid is high by volume content, but it's in solution, not out of solution like a grit.
So long as you rinse very thoroughly and don't use it as a regular washing product, you'll not do ANY damage to your paintwork.
Invest in some 303 Aerospace Protectant to treat the rubber trim, wipers, tyres, and you'll be doing the rubber a big favour.

[PJS]

Originally Posted by Speedy471

hmmm is another option to wait until the wax stops the water from beading then apply the sealant? Also whats the worst that would happen applying sealant to 3 week old wax? Thanks.

Sealant will (if it bonds sufficiently to begin with) will simply come off with the wax.
In all honesty, stick with just the wax, and switch to a sealant when it runs out. The whole point of wax over sealant is because most sealants are considered to be sterile, optically, whereas carny waxes are warmer/have a glow to them.
We're talking fine nuances here, not night and day stuff - and I'll bet the vast majority of people who do this, do so in blind faith, without seeing a bit of difference.
One of the best sealants on Silver is Zaino, but my own recommended Bilt Hamber Auto Balm runs it very close, and it too is a sealant, albeit in paste form.
Much cheaper, and as only a smidgeon is needed, the pot of Balm will probably last you a couple of years (it has great longevity) and is also useful for doing the wheels too.
Not bad for £18 ish, plus unlike the Zaino, it has quite a lot of filler which will mask swirls/light scratches, and which will highlight them.
No need to wax on afterwards, as the solvents in the wax will likely remove the Balm layer, so defeating the purpose.
Couple of layers of that, and you're rocking and rolling, with money in your pocket to boot.

[flyguy40@]

Thanks everybody,useful info.Just been told car not ready till tuesday,was so lookin forward to gettin it on monday,24 hours is not that long!!!!!!

[PJS]

Originally Posted by PJS

Sealant will (if it bonds sufficiently to begin with) will simply come off with the wax.
In all honesty, stick with just the wax, and switch to a sealant when it runs out. The whole point of wax over sealant is because most sealants are considered to be sterile, optically, whereas carny waxes are warmer/have a glow to them.
We're talking fine nuances here, not night and day stuff - and I'll bet the vast majority of people who do this, do so in blind faith, without seeing a bit of difference.
One of the best sealants on Silver is Zaino, but my own recommended Bilt Hamber Auto Balm runs it very close, and it too is a sealant, albeit in paste form.
Much cheaper, and as only a smidgeon is needed, the pot of Balm will probably last you a couple of years (it has great longevity) and is also useful for doing the wheels too.
Not bad for £18 ish, plus unlike Zaino, it has quite a lot of filler which will mask swirls/light scratches, which will highlight them.
No need to wax on afterwards, as the solvents in the wax will likely remove the Balm layer, so defeating the purpose.
Couple of layers of that, and you're rocking and rolling, with money in your pocket to boot.

*edit* - clarification in bold