type r diesel

panasony · 27th May 2007, 10:17

Forgive me for this thread but i was just thinking should Honda make a type r diesel, i mean Seat has the Ibiza cupra diesil, and Audi have there sport diesil so do Volkswagon aswell so i was wondering if it would be a good idea if Honda had there own sports diesel.

What do you think

elfa7 · 27th May 2007, 10:20

I think it would be a great idea. The Type R looks ,with the 2.2 economy.

Pottsy · 27th May 2007, 10:23

And the Type-S diesel isn't this? I imagine that one possible new model for the future will be a hot Type-S diesel with a bit more power and a slightly spammed up interior (a bit like the MK4 Golf GTi diesel, or the MK5 Golf GT diesel), but there will never be too much R in a diesel, to preserve the R brand. There was enough uproar that the current R wasn't a proper R!

panasony · 27th May 2007, 10:27

maybe a type D then with 160bhp 0-60 in 6-7 seconds and a 145mph with a type r spoiler oh and 50 mpg

Pottsy · 27th May 2007, 10:34

Yep, that's the kind of thing. The Golf is 170 bhp, so I imagine that that would be a good benchmark.

Of course, if you can't wait, buy a Type-S, get it chipped to 180-190 bhp and glue on a spoiler....

elfa7 · 27th May 2007, 10:35

Forgot about the Type S diesel

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czechplastik · 27th May 2007, 13:47

The 'S' is already a warm hatch (although so is the 5 door), but a sportier variant is possible, agree with Pottsy that it wouldn't wear the R badge.

panasony · 27th May 2007, 13:58

I dont know about that because the seat has the cupra badge on there diesels, and volkswagon has the gti badge on there diesels too

philip3600 · 27th May 2007, 15:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by panasony

I dont know about that because the seat has the cupra badge on there diesels, and volkswagon has the gti badge on there diesels too

it's an fr badge on the seat and a gt badge on the golf..
In my opinion type-r stands for a petrol and high-revving car. No way there will be a diesel type-r

panasony · 27th May 2007, 15:10

the seat ibiza has a cupra badge on it and is a diesel

Charles_Harding · 27th May 2007, 16:31

It's bad enough that the Civic has a diesel option in the first place.

......but a Type R diesel?

Don't see Halford's running a diesel in the BTCC races!

"I got some new underwear the other day. Well new to me anyway!"

Charles H.

philip3600 · 27th May 2007, 16:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by panasony

the seat ibiza has a cupra badge on it and is a diesel

correct, i was talking about the leon..

matt7710 · 27th May 2007, 17:36

as a family man honda need a five door performance civic diesel with the looks of a type r.i think this would do loads for honda,they must have lost sales to the golf,seat,focus st,mazda 3,the list go's on and on

priesty · 27th May 2007, 17:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charles_Harding

It's bad enough that the Civic has a diesel option in the first place.

......but a Type R diesel?

Don't see Halford's running a diesel in the BTCC races!

There is a BMW 120d running the BTCC this year, with Peugeot and Audi both contesting this years Le Mans with diesel powered cars.

I think an advanced diesel like Honda's 2.2 would be perfect for race development, especially if JCB could get 300MPH out of a couple of digger engines!!

czechplastik · 27th May 2007, 21:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by priesty

I think an advanced diesel like Honda's 2.2 would be perfect for race development, especially if JCB could get 300MPH out of a couple of digger engines!!

Well thats true, the 2.2 has plenty of potential, if you think that Rally cars produce upwards of 300bhp from 2.0 petrol engines.

Charles_Harding · 28th May 2007, 11:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by priesty

There is a BMW 120d running the BTCC this year, with Peugeot and Audi both contesting this years Le Mans with diesel powered cars.

I think an advanced diesel like Honda's 2.2 would be perfect for race development, especially if JCB could get 300MPH out of a couple of digger engines!!

......but a gentleman doesn't drive a diesel!

"Doctor, doctor, I can't say words that begin with F or,T."

"You can't say fairer than that then!"

Charles H.

pariah · 28th May 2007, 16:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charles_Harding

......but a gentleman doesn't drive a diesel!

But does a gentleman bash other ppl's pride & joy?

THX1138 · 28th May 2007, 19:15

There's a big difference between just having the styling of a Type-R and also having the performance. Take the M package for BMW. You don't get an actual M type BMW, but a lot of it's styling.

So an R package on the 5 door and Type-S might be a good option. But engine wise, I don't think Honda should do anything. The diesel is great the way it is. I expect more to happen in the green/hybrid area. A Type-G perhaps. Near zero emisions, but still having performance that inspires.

Charles_Harding · 29th May 2007, 13:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by pariah

But does a gentleman bash other ppl's pride & joy?

Never bashed anyone's pride and joy jet!

......anyway that quote was from the mouth of James May anyway!

"My Sky satellite dish has fallen in love with my neighbour's one and they've just got married. Wedding was pants, but the reception was good!"

Charles H.

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panasony Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 21st January 2007 Posts: 152 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	type r diesel Forgive me for this thread but i was just thinking should Honda make a type r diesel, i mean Seat has the Ibiza cupra diesil, and Audi have there sport diesil so do Volkswagon aswell so i was wondering if it would be a good idea if Honda had there own sports diesel. What do you think

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This thread is about: type r diesel, it's in Cleaning and Styling at the Honda Civic forum Civinfo; Forgive me for this thread but i was just thinking should Honda make a type r diesel, i mean Seat has the Ibiza cupra diesil, ...

27th May 2007, 10:20	#2 (permalink)
elfa7 Supporter Rocketship door handle Join Date: 8th May 2006 Location: Cheshire Posts: 1,703 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I think it would be a great idea. The Type R looks ,with the 2.2 economy.

27th May 2007, 10:23	#3 (permalink)
Pottsy Administrator Civinfo master Join Date: 10th April 2006 Location: Leics Posts: 5,039 Thanks: 13 Thanked 94 Times in 50 Posts	And the Type-S diesel isn't this? I imagine that one possible new model for the future will be a hot Type-S diesel with a bit more power and a slightly spammed up interior (a bit like the MK4 Golf GTi diesel, or the MK5 Golf GT diesel), but there will never be too much R in a diesel, to preserve the R brand. There was enough uproar that the current R wasn't a proper R!

27th May 2007, 10:27	#4 (permalink)
panasony Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 21st January 2007 Posts: 152 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	maybe a type D then with 160bhp 0-60 in 6-7 seconds and a 145mph with a type r spoiler oh and 50 mpg

27th May 2007, 10:34	#5 (permalink)
Pottsy Administrator Civinfo master Join Date: 10th April 2006 Location: Leics Posts: 5,039 Thanks: 13 Thanked 94 Times in 50 Posts	Yep, that's the kind of thing. The Golf is 170 bhp, so I imagine that that would be a good benchmark. Of course, if you can't wait, buy a Type-S, get it chipped to 180-190 bhp and glue on a spoiler....

27th May 2007, 10:35	#6 (permalink)
elfa7 Supporter Rocketship door handle Join Date: 8th May 2006 Location: Cheshire Posts: 1,703 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Forgot about the Type S diesel .

27th May 2007, 13:47	#7 (permalink)
czechplastik King of the rodeo Civinfo guru Join Date: 24th October 2006 Location: Belfast Posts: 4,500 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	The 'S' is already a warm hatch (although so is the 5 door), but a sportier variant is possible, agree with Pottsy that it wouldn't wear the R badge.

27th May 2007, 13:58	#8 (permalink)
panasony Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 21st January 2007 Posts: 152 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I dont know about that because the seat has the cupra badge on there diesels, and volkswagon has the gti badge on there diesels too

27th May 2007, 15:10	#10 (permalink)
panasony Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 21st January 2007 Posts: 152 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	the seat ibiza has a cupra badge on it and is a diesel

27th May 2007, 16:31	#11 (permalink)
Charles_Harding Civinfo guru Join Date: 14th August 2006 Location: S.E. London Posts: 3,288 Thanks: 113 Thanked 27 Times in 26 Posts	It's bad enough that the Civic has a diesel option in the first place. ......but a Type R diesel? Don't see Halford's running a diesel in the BTCC races! "I got some new underwear the other day. Well new to me anyway!" Charles H.

27th May 2007, 17:36	#13 (permalink)
matt7710 Supporter Valve Cap Join Date: 19th March 2007 Location: hull Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	as a family man honda need a five door performance civic diesel with the looks of a type r.i think this would do loads for honda,they must have lost sales to the golf,seat,focus st,mazda 3,the list go's on and on

28th May 2007, 19:15	#18 (permalink)
THX1138 Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 2nd March 2007 Location: Den Haag, The Netherlands Posts: 387 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	There's a big difference between just having the styling of a Type-R and also having the performance. Take the M package for BMW. You don't get an actual M type BMW, but a lot of it's styling. So an R package on the 5 door and Type-S might be a good option. But engine wise, I don't think Honda should do anything. The diesel is great the way it is. I expect more to happen in the green/hybrid area. A Type-G perhaps. Near zero emisions, but still having performance that inspires.