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Old 11th June 2007, 12:17   #1 (permalink)
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Paint quality moan!!

Having just washed and polished my 07 NHB Type S i have noticed that i have several ( read QUITE a few ) chips to the bonnet of my car, now i know that if you drive these things hard you are going to get a few chips but it seems that in the three months i have had this i have had more than the 5 years i had a skoda octavia RS.

Is this the angle of the bonnet ? or just crap paint work( Before you ask the skoda was had 225 Bhp so was driven harder than this one)

Also i took the car to a local body shop to ask about having the trim coded and the chap also commented on the poor quality paint work on the car , when i asked about this he said he has seen a lot of Honda s and says the standard has dropped over recent years( Also that of others manufacturers).

Is anyone else disappointed in the quality of the paintwork or am i being too picky ...... this is the first Honda car i have owned
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Mine has a fair few scrapes on the bonnet. Paint on all modern cars is acknowledged as being poor, it's thanks to the environmentally friendly chemicals they have to use.

So softness and orange peel are here for a while, sadly.
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Mine has a fair few scrapes on the bonnet. Paint on all modern cars is acknowledged as being poor, it's thanks to the environmentally friendly chemicals they have to use.

So softness and orange peel are here for a while, sadly.


Bugger thought i was driving too hard !!!!
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Having just washed and polished my 07 NHB Type S i have noticed that i have several ( read QUITE a few ) chips to the bonnet of my car, now i know that if you drive these things hard you are going to get a few chips but it seems that in the three months i have had this i have had more than the 5 years i had a skoda octavia RS.

Is this the angle of the bonnet ? or just crap paint work( Before you ask the skoda was had 225 Bhp so was driven harder than this one)

Also i took the car to a local body shop to ask about having the trim coded and the chap also commented on the poor quality paint work on the car , when i asked about this he said he has seen a lot of Honda s and says the standard has dropped over recent years( Also that of others manufacturers).

Is anyone else disappointed in the quality of the paintwork or am i being too picky ...... this is the first Honda car i have owned
I picked up my car on Saturday morning and within 2 hours had my first stone chip on the bonnet. Was not happy!

Going to chat to the dealer when I go in to have the mats fitted (they hadn't arrived in time to put in car). Hopefully I won't have any more by then!!!
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Old 11th June 2007, 18:51   #5 (permalink)
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Bad luck mouse but the bad roads around Salisbury don't help. My 3 year old Volvo was peppered with chips when I traded it. It's just a mixture of soft paint and badly-maintained roads in the UK.
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Its just a poor finish

Having been the owner of a few Honda's over the years I have to say the bodywork struggles to cope with the grind of everyday motoring. My wifes Honda Jazz has more dents, scratches, chips and creases than tin foil wrapped around a potato.

Beware of the t-cut thing as well, just when you think you can polish out the scratches with a bit of t-cut, you rub it on then spend the next several hours trying to get the stuff off again.

Never had any such problems with Audi, Renault, VW or Saab.
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I have just completed 3k miles and mine has not suffered any paint damage at all - yet.

By the time I had completed 3k in my last car the front was pebbledashed already.

Galaxy with the DiamondBrite coating - may be a good combination?
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I have spent months trying to prove the paint is (was) inferior on my car but having had several panels "spot" repaired and the repairs going wrong I have now had 4 complete panels re-sprayed with another 2 or 3 to be done in a couple of weeks.

So my paint will no longer be the original and I feel much more confident that it will stand the test of time.

The original paint was too thin and too soft and I have a report from HUK which actually shows that areas of my car did not meet their standard but they are refusing to enter in to any correspondence with me and the original dealership are alo refusing to help me pursue this telling me that I should forget it!
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Here's how my 4 week old 350Z coped with a little pebble pinged up onto its bonnet from the rear wheels of the car in front:

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So by the sounds of it ....its just down to crap ol'paint then .....oh well !!!
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So by the sounds of it ....its just down to crap ol'paint then .....oh well !!!
Pretty much, yes. It is as Pottsy says, modern paints are not as resilient as the old cellulose based ones.
My NHB has just come back from having it's second bonnet respray in a year; luckily my dealer is sympathetic to the fact that so many chips are not acceptable.
He actually explained to me that the NHB paint is difficult to get right and seems to be too brittle, hence we get no chips on the bumper where plasticiser is added.

Having said all that, they have made a right mess of the rest of the car leaving cloudy patches on the pillars, doors and roof. I have no idea what causes that, but it goes back tomorrow.
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So by the sounds of it ....its just down to crap ol'paint then .....oh well !!!

& you, you B*gg*r, you ARE driving too hard !!!![quote=mouse123]

Only jessin' really.

But still sorry tho'

Anyway if you slow down you'll get pinged by them other b*gg**s who drive tooo hard!

'tis a no win situation.

Welcome to the world of chipped paint.

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Try Autoglym

You can help to reduce the impact of the everyday grind by using Autoglym extra gloss protector (not sure if Honda would endorse this but I think Aston Martin do). It will give your paintwork a tougher finish and you should encounter fewer chips. Make sure you apply it once a year, in my opinion it is as good as the commercial applications that will cost you a few hundred quid. Also, when you wash your car it will come up gleaming!
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had my FN2 3 weeks and the bonnet looks like it's been in a drive by!
Been shot at more times than 50 Cent!
Has anyone gone back to there dealers and complained about the paint work? if so what have they said?
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Been shot at more times than 50 Cent!
and your smiling !!
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Sadly it's normal.

Got quite a few on the bonnet to. Even with the white undercoat thing visible.


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If old skool environmentally evil paint was a 1000-1500£ option I'd take it.

Who else?
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I think if you don't smile you might go insane, especially at the rate my bonnet is chipping, my NHB bonnet is going to be white at this rate!
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Almost everybody agrees that our paintwork is extremely poor. My dealer says it is just the shape of the bonnet. Hewever that does not explain the many swirls that I have even though I always wash at hand with expensive detailing stuff.
I may add that this has nothing to do with paint being worse these days than it was before. That is true, but does not explain why actual VAG's or PSA's paint is so much more resistant than Honda's or Kia's, to put some examples.
Let me also add that after a year with this car, the paint quality and the scratches in the dashboard are the only faults I have found in the car.
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I think if you don't smile you might go insane, especially at the rate my bonnet is chipping, my NHB bonnet is going to be white at this rate!

I have been told if your paint chips easily it is too hard!!

If it scratches easily it is too soft
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I have been told if your paint chips easily it is too hard!!

If it scratches easily it is too soft
Weird as it seems the Civic's paint scratches AND chips easily

I guess it is too rubbish then

First few chips I got semi-insane now I just go \0/ I WIN! when I find another one.

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