CPL CAI Review - FN2 - Page 3

ash_rage · 30th May 2012, 22:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noxia

Mine arrived today. It was your review which tipped me over to order it Ash. Can't get it installed for a while but that's ok.

Good to hear buddy. Whose installing it?

Noxia · 31st May 2012, 09:47

Don't know yet. Probably the same garage who will do my manifold

fat4y · 31st May 2012, 11:10

Nice write up ash..i wanna see videos!!lol

If i was to buy an fn2 again id try this kit

Revs FN2 · 31st May 2012, 11:40

Well the CAI is fitted and sounding great. It's a little groggy now on rapid throttle changes but I suspect with a bit more driving round the ECU will improve a bit. Need to get it to TDI for mapping now, really.

It's not the quickest of installs, especially in the dark using a torch

Two things that need to be said (I'm gonna call CPL about these, too) are 1/ the bracket needed some slight tweaking to get it to the mounting point, and 2/ where the breathers are braised on there was a couple of metal flakes on the inside of the tube that I had to remove as it looked like they might come off and get sucked in to the engine. The HKS RSK had the same bits of metal that needed cleaning out so this isn't just a CPL thing. Just be aware before installing.

Chrisn01 · 7th June 2012, 22:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Revs FN2

Well the CAI is fitted and sounding great. It's a little groggy now on rapid throttle changes but I suspect with a bit more driving round the ECU will improve a bit. Need to get it to TDI for mapping now, really.

It's not the quickest of installs, especially in the dark using a torch

Two things that need to be said (I'm gonna call CPL about these, too) are 1/ the bracket needed some slight tweaking to get it to the mounting point, and 2/ where the breathers are braised on there was a couple of metal flakes on the inside of the tube that I had to remove as it looked like they might come off and get sucked in to the engine. The HKS RSK had the same bits of metal that needed cleaning out so this isn't just a CPL thing. Just be aware before installing.

Hiya Mate

Is it quiet easy to install and do you have to remove bumper? Also, has the groggy'ness ceased yet as thinking about getting one myself, but am still on the fence lol.

Cheers

Revs FN2 · 7th June 2012, 23:29

I'm running a FlashPro now so yes, long gone

Seems to effect some cars and not others, also I have a misreading ARF sensor which CPL corrected for in the remap. Goes like stink now and sounds awesome. Like the HKS but not coming from inside the dash (don't know if you've heard one but the RSK is bloody loud inside the car).

As for fitting. It's case of relocating the battery (easy), lengthening and rerouting a wire (needs soldering), Rerouting a minor coolant hose, NS arch cover off and lining out, loosen bumper and move out about 2" forward to get to remove the stock resonator bolts, remove ducting, fit CPL intake tube, fit K&N, fit supplied breather hoses, reassemble. Job done!

ash_rage · 8th June 2012, 13:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrisn01

Is it quiet easy to install and do you have to remove bumper?

Bumper doesn't need to come off.

Put it this way: if I can install it, anyone can.

Coskun · 9th June 2012, 00:53

Is there bhp & torque differences between cpl cai vs factory cai with performance panel filter? (both tuned)

Revs FN2 · 9th June 2012, 02:31

Probably very little. Though I bet as mods continue the CPL CAI is less likely to become a restriction.

bryte1 · 9th June 2012, 03:27

Hi all,

I has just had my FN2R in to Jtune for their CAI intake install (very similar setup to CPL CAI) and Hondata reflash tune. Totally different car now! The car in stock form would demand a heavy right foot and snappy gear changes to keep the power and revs up... after tune and CAI it now requires quite a different driving style, as it seems to have much improved pick up and pull without needing to mash the accelerator. Intake sound is immense, especially if you do decide to mash the accelerator! Intake noise does actually quieten and smooth out when driving and shifting above 6000rpm. The throttle response of the stock setup seems a joke in comparison.

Cheers,
Bryan

Revs FN2 · 9th June 2012, 12:07

Nice one Brian. I think the CAI sounds best just after the low Vtec point.. about 4200rpm... sounds raw and throaty

Out of interest; did you end up with a MAP or a MAF tune?

bryte1 · 10th June 2012, 07:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Revs FN2

Nice one Brian. I think the CAI sounds best just after the low Vtec point.. about 4200rpm... sounds raw and throaty

Out of interest; did you end up with a MAP or a MAF tune?

I believe it is a maf tune. Custom tuned on dyno after install of CAI. Piping of CAI still has MAF sensor in place. The intake sound is nice with a more gentle right foot, heavy right foot sounds like a large horny bull is about to leap out of the bonnet. Will be asking the guys about this next week to see if the tune needs tweaking or whether this is just the typical response with rapid open throttle with CAI.

Revs FN2 · 10th June 2012, 11:09

The MAF sensor has to be left in place as it also houses the AIT sensor, but with a MAP tuned the MAF sensor is ignored.

shae · 13th July 2012, 19:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by rowbo

Anyone ?

Here is my experience of the CPL CAI.

Who ever said it a dig job was a proper joker as it just isn't.

It killed my car, it felt as flat as a pancake. My car was running a toda and a CPL manifold.

Took it to TDI the very same day as it was THAT bad !

OMG - it woke up big time - the sound- the performance.

It's not the prettiest thing, but it's in expensive and works on a maped car

ash_rage · 13th July 2012, 20:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by shae

Here is my experience of the CPL CAI.

Who ever said it a dig job was a proper joker as it just isn't.

It killed my car, it felt as flat as a pancake. My car was running a toda and a CPL manifold.

Took it to TDI the very same day as it was THAT bad !

OMG - it woke up big time - the sound- the performance.

It's not the prettiest thing, but it's in expensive and works on a maped car

Correct me if I'm wrong.

You run the group n map. You fitted a 4-2-1 exhaust manifold which is a decat... and your surprised you needed a custom remap?

Do you have any idea how much the engines VE changes when you go from the stock manifold to a 4-2-1 decat? A lot. But yeah it's solely the CPL CAI's fault ...

Not.

I fitted mine with no issues, as has many others.

You purchased a second hand one which you said in another thread didn't come with instructions.

It's easy with instructions.

shae · 14th July 2012, 03:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by ash_rage

Correct me if I'm wrong.

You run the group n map. You fitted a 4-2-1 exhaust manifold which is a decat... and your surprised you needed a custom remap?

Do you have any idea how much the engines VE changes when you go from the stock manifold to a 4-2-1 decat? A lot. But yeah it's solely the CPL CAI's fault ...

Not.

I fitted mine with no issues, as has many others.

You purchased a second hand one which you said in another thread didn't come with instructions.

It's easy with instructions.

yes i did run a gp n map, like i said it didnt work with my mods and that map.

i never said it was cpl fault

i had a copy of the instructions from cpl

i also said how good the product was when maped.

gave an honest report of my experience

ash_rage · 14th July 2012, 09:45

Ah ok, your post is poorly worded then as it came across like you was solely blaming the CPL CAI.

Quote:

Originally Posted by shae

Here is my experience of the CPL CAI.

....

It killed my car, it felt as flat as a pancake.

....

Took it to TDI the very same day as it was THAT bad !

Anyway good to hear you're now pleased with it.

shae · 14th July 2012, 15:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by ash_rage

Ah ok, your post is poorly worded then as it came across like you was solely blaming the CPL CAI.

Anyway good to hear you're now pleased with it.

i was blaming the cpl intake, because that is what it did to my car with the mods i was running. it destroyed them UNTILL it was mapped. Once mapped it performs extreamy well, wouldnt have anything else.

ash_rage · 15th July 2012, 22:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by shae

i was blaming the cpl intake, because that is what it did to my car with the mods i was running. it destroyed them UNTILL it was mapped. Once mapped it performs extreamy well, wouldnt have anything else.

If you say so.

Noxia · 15th July 2012, 22:50

That's funny because I drove home on stock map with a newly installed CPL CAI and a race header and it drove alright.

Actually I was also on group N.

7th June 2012, 23:29	#46 (permalink)
Revs FN2 aka Paul Join Date: 14th April 2012 Location: Huddersfield Posts: 2,546 Thanks given: 717 Thanked 506 Times in 435 Posts iTrader: (7)	I'm running a FlashPro now so yes, long gone Seems to effect some cars and not others, also I have a misreading ARF sensor which CPL corrected for in the remap. Goes like stink now and sounds awesome. Like the HKS but not coming from inside the dash (don't know if you've heard one but the RSK is bloody loud inside the car). As for fitting. It's case of relocating the battery (easy), lengthening and rerouting a wire (needs soldering), Rerouting a minor coolant hose, NS arch cover off and lining out, loosen bumper and move out about 2" forward to get to remove the stock resonator bolts, remove ducting, fit CPL intake tube, fit K&N, fit supplied breather hoses, reassemble. Job done! Last edited by Revs FN2; 7th June 2012 at 23:32.

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31st May 2012, 09:47	#42 (permalink)
Noxia (\)o_O(/) Car: 2008 CTR, Silver Join Date: 16th October 2011 Location: Melksham Posts: 3,434 Thanks given: 559 Thanked 471 Times in 407 Posts iTrader: (10)	Don't know yet. Probably the same garage who will do my manifold

31st May 2012, 11:10	#43 (permalink)
fat4y The Property Man Car: 2007 VW Beetle 1.6 Join Date: 7th November 2008 Location: Glasgow Posts: 6,046 Thanks given: 24 Thanked 372 Times in 366 Posts iTrader: (6)	Nice write up ash..i wanna see videos!!lol If i was to buy an fn2 again id try this kit

31st May 2012, 11:40	#44 (permalink)
Revs FN2 aka Paul Join Date: 14th April 2012 Location: Huddersfield Posts: 2,546 Thanks given: 717 Thanked 506 Times in 435 Posts iTrader: (7)	Well the CAI is fitted and sounding great. It's a little groggy now on rapid throttle changes but I suspect with a bit more driving round the ECU will improve a bit. Need to get it to TDI for mapping now, really. It's not the quickest of installs, especially in the dark using a torch Two things that need to be said (I'm gonna call CPL about these, too) are 1/ the bracket needed some slight tweaking to get it to the mounting point, and 2/ where the breathers are braised on there was a couple of metal flakes on the inside of the tube that I had to remove as it looked like they might come off and get sucked in to the engine. The HKS RSK had the same bits of metal that needed cleaning out so this isn't just a CPL thing. Just be aware before installing.

9th June 2012, 00:53	#48 (permalink)
Coskun Car: 2007 Honda CTR FN2 Join Date: 25th October 2011 Location: .... Posts: 423 Thanks given: 2 Thanked 12 Times in 12 Posts iTrader: (0)	Is there bhp & torque differences between cpl cai vs factory cai with performance panel filter? (both tuned)

9th June 2012, 02:31	#49 (permalink)
Revs FN2 aka Paul Join Date: 14th April 2012 Location: Huddersfield Posts: 2,546 Thanks given: 717 Thanked 506 Times in 435 Posts iTrader: (7)	Probably very little. Though I bet as mods continue the CPL CAI is less likely to become a restriction.

9th June 2012, 03:27	#50 (permalink)
bryte1 Car: 2008 Honda Civic Type R Join Date: 9th August 2010 Location: Australia Posts: 132 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts iTrader: (0)	Hi all, I has just had my FN2R in to Jtune for their CAI intake install (very similar setup to CPL CAI) and Hondata reflash tune. Totally different car now! The car in stock form would demand a heavy right foot and snappy gear changes to keep the power and revs up... after tune and CAI it now requires quite a different driving style, as it seems to have much improved pick up and pull without needing to mash the accelerator. Intake sound is immense, especially if you do decide to mash the accelerator! Intake noise does actually quieten and smooth out when driving and shifting above 6000rpm. The throttle response of the stock setup seems a joke in comparison. Cheers, Bryan

9th June 2012, 12:07	#51 (permalink)
Revs FN2 aka Paul Join Date: 14th April 2012 Location: Huddersfield Posts: 2,546 Thanks given: 717 Thanked 506 Times in 435 Posts iTrader: (7)	Nice one Brian. I think the CAI sounds best just after the low Vtec point.. about 4200rpm... sounds raw and throaty Out of interest; did you end up with a MAP or a MAF tune?

10th June 2012, 11:09	#53 (permalink)
Revs FN2 aka Paul Join Date: 14th April 2012 Location: Huddersfield Posts: 2,546 Thanks given: 717 Thanked 506 Times in 435 Posts iTrader: (7)	The MAF sensor has to be left in place as it also houses the AIT sensor, but with a MAP tuned the MAF sensor is ignored.

15th July 2012, 22:50	#60 (permalink)
Noxia (\)o_O(/) Car: 2008 CTR, Silver Join Date: 16th October 2011 Location: Melksham Posts: 3,434 Thanks given: 559 Thanked 471 Times in 407 Posts iTrader: (10)	That's funny because I drove home on stock map with a newly installed CPL CAI and a race header and it drove alright. Actually I was also on group N.