Satnav Satnav.......lost confidence.

oldmanchris · 27th May 2008, 20:47

On Monday night I went to fetch my 14 year old daughter and her friend from a teenagers disco about 20 miles from our house. I put in the post code (ME2 2SS) the satnav started to calculate the route but ended up with a message 'Route has not been completed. Please try again from a different location'. The place she was at was even listed under POI's but it still came up with the same message. I redid the postcode and POI search several times during the journey but always got the same message. I ended up half an hour late to pick up 2 frozen teenagers at 11.30 at night after having to ask directions at a petrol station!!

How can a satnav that can show me how to get to Berlin not be able to direct me to a valid postcode virtually on my doorstep?

For a laugh I did the same postcode search on the £50 satnav I keep in the van and it put me right on the spot within seconds.

I have now lost confidence in the Civic satnav so I will have to take a back up with me when just in case it lets me down again.

FWH · 27th May 2008, 20:48

If you put the street address in does it work?

oldmanchris · 27th May 2008, 20:51

Surely as it was listed as a POI all the details needed should be stored?

FWH · 27th May 2008, 20:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldmanchris

Surely as it was listed as a POI all the details needed should be stored?

Unless this particular POI is missing some bit of information that makes it not work.

oldmanchris · 27th May 2008, 20:58

No point in listing it as POI then!!

NEEMSTAR · 27th May 2008, 21:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldmanchris

No point in listing it as POI then!!

might be an error in the info held for that POI

oldmanchris · 27th May 2008, 21:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by NEEMSTAR

might be an error in the info held for that POI

I take it I can't edit it?

Kremmen · 28th May 2008, 06:48

If I remember later

I'll put the same postcode in and see what happens on my v3.23 disk...................hang on I'll go and do it now...................nope "unnamed road Rochester" and it can't handle it !

Just had a look in MapPoint and it looks like Roman Way ? Even Mappoint doesn't name the East/West road after the roundabout which I assume is still Roman way ?

That may be the issue ?

robbo51 · 28th May 2008, 07:19

If you google the post code it gives this:
ME2 2SS - Google Search

oldmanchris · 28th May 2008, 10:47

Maybe my expectations of the system are to high. I (wrongly) thought that if the system could not match the postcode the letters/numbers were greyed out but if it did match it would give you a route albeit to the area if no street could be found. Thats what my other two satnavs do. By not even taking you to the area (of a correctly entered postcode) is no help.

The other moan I have is the lack of detail in built up areas. I found it very useful having the names of side roads listed as I came up to them (as I do with my cheapo portable satnav), it made up for the lag in the signal. You have a big screen with very little map detail, which I think is a waste. Having black lines and random road names listed seems pointless.

Anyway, next time I will obviously have to take a spare satnav and print the multimap directions.

Kremmen · 28th May 2008, 11:42

Chariot way - not even Mappoint had that road named.

Mappoint uses NavTeq, and so does Honda.

Pottsy · 28th May 2008, 14:11

For some reason the satnav can't make it round the last roundabout - it's as if the roundabout has a break in it. I'll report it.

rabouterror.jpg

minisweeper · 28th May 2008, 14:49

Re: lack of detail - i assume you realise that you can zoom in/out using the jog wheel while on the normal map screen? If you zoom right in it generally adds the side street names etc...

Kremmen · 29th May 2008, 07:08

Not always - my road is not named when I zoom right in to 50yds but it knows what the road is because it's listed.

illegalhunter · 29th May 2008, 09:10

By the sounds of it iam glad i didnt wait the 22 weeks for sat nav

oldmanchris · 29th May 2008, 21:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pottsy

For some reason the satnav can't make it round the last roundabout - it's as if the roundabout has a break in it. I'll report it.

Attachment 10947

Thanks Pottsy.

oldmanchris · 29th May 2008, 22:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by minisweeper

Re: lack of detail - i assume you realise that you can zoom in/out using the jog wheel while on the normal map screen? If you zoom right in it generally adds the side street names etc...

Even zoomed in on max it still only shows a few roads and they are often several streets away from your route and sometimes they are not even main roads. If you can't see these roads when you're driving and its not part of the route I personally can't see any point in listing them.

If they can be used as reference points on your route then thats fair enough.

thunt · 6th June 2008, 01:23

Fully agree with your comments. I have used TomTom for about 4 years now, probably covering 100k miles.

I now use the satnav that came with the Civic and it is definitely not as good. It lacks the detail as you say, even on max zoom. The routing does not fill me with confidence - only this week it took me right through the middle of Bristol and over the Clifton toll bridge. TomTom would have done something much more sensible - so would google.

The other day J1 of the M5 was closed. I needed to get onto the M5 at this junction. On TomTom, you would tell it to avoid the next xx yards or miles and it would take care of the rest. No such option on the Honda one (I tried the detour option).

It was also useful on TomTom to be able to key in a postcode or address and cross reference with google, or someones 'how to find us' map from their website before you set off. You can't do this in the Honda due to the lack of detail.

Very rarely in 4 years did TomTom let me down. The Civic satnav has let me down often in the 3 months I have used it and I too am losing confidence. The only reason I am persisting with it is because its built in.

I am using v 3.23 also.

psykik · 6th June 2008, 01:40

ive got tomtom on my phone (rarely used), it makes for a good backup to the honda sat nav, and just for fun i sometimes set the same route to compare, leave it on bluetooth and to hear the bleeps for every camera!

Kremmen · 6th June 2008, 06:51

Quote:

The only reason I am persisting with it is because its built in.

Exactly

It's definately not as good but it saves on the major construction and demolition work at the start and end of each journey.

27th May 2008, 20:47	#1 (permalink)
oldmanchris Valve Cap Join Date: 16th February 2008 Location: Bexleyheath Posts: 41 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Satnav.......lost confidence. On Monday night I went to fetch my 14 year old daughter and her friend from a teenagers disco about 20 miles from our house. I put in the post code (ME2 2SS) the satnav started to calculate the route but ended up with a message 'Route has not been completed. Please try again from a different location'. The place she was at was even listed under POI's but it still came up with the same message. I redid the postcode and POI search several times during the journey but always got the same message. I ended up half an hour late to pick up 2 frozen teenagers at 11.30 at night after having to ask directions at a petrol station!! How can a satnav that can show me how to get to Berlin not be able to direct me to a valid postcode virtually on my doorstep? For a laugh I did the same postcode search on the £50 satnav I keep in the van and it put me right on the spot within seconds. I have now lost confidence in the Civic satnav so I will have to take a back up with me when just in case it lets me down again.

28th May 2008, 06:48	#8 (permalink)
Kremmen Krem de la Krem Civinfo guru Join Date: 7th January 2007 Location: West London Posts: 2,577 Thanks: 7 Thanked 11 Times in 11 Posts	If I remember later I'll put the same postcode in and see what happens on my v3.23 disk...................hang on I'll go and do it now...................nope "unnamed road Rochester" and it can't handle it ! Just had a look in MapPoint and it looks like Roman Way ? Even Mappoint doesn't name the East/West road after the roundabout which I assume is still Roman way ? That may be the issue ? Last edited by Kremmen; 28th May 2008 at 06:53.

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27th May 2008, 20:48	#2 (permalink)
FWH Super Moderator Civinfo master Join Date: 3rd June 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 5,227 Thanks: 6 Thanked 44 Times in 39 Posts	If you put the street address in does it work?

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oldmanchris Valve Cap Join Date: 16th February 2008 Location: Bexleyheath Posts: 41 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Surely as it was listed as a POI all the details needed should be stored?

27th May 2008, 20:58	#5 (permalink)
oldmanchris Valve Cap Join Date: 16th February 2008 Location: Bexleyheath Posts: 41 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	No point in listing it as POI then!!

28th May 2008, 07:19	#9 (permalink)
robbo51 On holiday!! Civinfo guru Join Date: 1st July 2007 Location: Bingley, W.Yorks Posts: 3,092 Thanks: 47 Thanked 40 Times in 37 Posts	If you google the post code it gives this: ME2 2SS - Google Search

28th May 2008, 10:47	#10 (permalink)
oldmanchris Valve Cap Join Date: 16th February 2008 Location: Bexleyheath Posts: 41 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Maybe my expectations of the system are to high. I (wrongly) thought that if the system could not match the postcode the letters/numbers were greyed out but if it did match it would give you a route albeit to the area if no street could be found. Thats what my other two satnavs do. By not even taking you to the area (of a correctly entered postcode) is no help. The other moan I have is the lack of detail in built up areas. I found it very useful having the names of side roads listed as I came up to them (as I do with my cheapo portable satnav), it made up for the lag in the signal. You have a big screen with very little map detail, which I think is a waste. Having black lines and random road names listed seems pointless. Anyway, next time I will obviously have to take a spare satnav and print the multimap directions.

28th May 2008, 11:42	#11 (permalink)
Kremmen Krem de la Krem Civinfo guru Join Date: 7th January 2007 Location: West London Posts: 2,577 Thanks: 7 Thanked 11 Times in 11 Posts	Chariot way - not even Mappoint had that road named. Mappoint uses NavTeq, and so does Honda.

28th May 2008, 14:11	#12 (permalink)
Pottsy Administrator Civinfo master Join Date: 10th April 2006 Location: Leics Posts: 5,039 Thanks: 13 Thanked 95 Times in 50 Posts	For some reason the satnav can't make it round the last roundabout - it's as if the roundabout has a break in it. I'll report it. rabouterror.jpg

28th May 2008, 14:49	#13 (permalink)
minisweeper Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 23rd June 2007 Posts: 207 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: lack of detail - i assume you realise that you can zoom in/out using the jog wheel while on the normal map screen? If you zoom right in it generally adds the side street names etc...

29th May 2008, 07:08	#14 (permalink)
Kremmen Krem de la Krem Civinfo guru Join Date: 7th January 2007 Location: West London Posts: 2,577 Thanks: 7 Thanked 11 Times in 11 Posts	Not always - my road is not named when I zoom right in to 50yds but it knows what the road is because it's listed.

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illegalhunter HACKIN & SLAYIN Civinfo guru Join Date: 10th May 2007 Location: In the woods armed to the teeth Posts: 2,497 Thanks: 4 Thanked 25 Times in 24 Posts	By the sounds of it iam glad i didnt wait the 22 weeks for sat nav

6th June 2008, 01:23	#18 (permalink)
thunt Supporter Wheelnut Join Date: 14th February 2008 Location: Devon, UK Posts: 95 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Fully agree with your comments. I have used TomTom for about 4 years now, probably covering 100k miles. I now use the satnav that came with the Civic and it is definitely not as good. It lacks the detail as you say, even on max zoom. The routing does not fill me with confidence - only this week it took me right through the middle of Bristol and over the Clifton toll bridge. TomTom would have done something much more sensible - so would google. The other day J1 of the M5 was closed. I needed to get onto the M5 at this junction. On TomTom, you would tell it to avoid the next xx yards or miles and it would take care of the rest. No such option on the Honda one (I tried the detour option). It was also useful on TomTom to be able to key in a postcode or address and cross reference with google, or someones 'how to find us' map from their website before you set off. You can't do this in the Honda due to the lack of detail. Very rarely in 4 years did TomTom let me down. The Civic satnav has let me down often in the 3 months I have used it and I too am losing confidence. The only reason I am persisting with it is because its built in. I am using v 3.23 also.

6th June 2008, 01:40	#19 (permalink)
psykik Supporter Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 28th April 2007 Posts: 452 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	ive got tomtom on my phone (rarely used), it makes for a good backup to the honda sat nav, and just for fun i sometimes set the same route to compare, leave it on bluetooth and to hear the bleeps for every camera!