Voice recog Setting Microphone Level

richierich · 23rd May 2006, 15:18

Below is exact copy of mail from Honda dealer.

"Bluetooth Voice Recognition Problem

FIX

If a customer is having problems refering to a Bluetooth voice recognition
with the above systems plese refer to the MIC level setup on the system,
this can be found by pressing MAP, MENU and CANCEL buttons on the sat nav
unit and then selecting the unit check option. Once in this menu if you
press the "TALK" button and speak clearly into the microphone this will set
the volume for the microphone. You will notice the green bars rising on the
display as you talk, we would advise getting the green bars in the upper
third of the meter but not all the way to the top as this may cause the
system not to recognize your voice as well."

I could not find it in the unit check option, but instead used the functional setup menu. I realise it does not strictly refer to HFT, but does mention Bluetooth.

Also I am not exactly sure what the setup actually does, whether it changes as you talk to increase the response to your voice, I know when I tried earlier it did begin low and get higher, but I could have perhaps began to shout.

basegreen · 23rd May 2006, 15:22

If you change the mic gain, be prepared to retrain the voice recognition.

richierich · 23rd May 2006, 15:47

Is this actually the mic gain that it is changing, I have asked Honda to confirm what this setting actually does. When you say retrain what do you mean?

richierich · 23rd May 2006, 15:55

Just one other thing came to me, do you think this will actually improce the HFT performance, or do we still need to loof to swap the microphone sides and then perhaps change the mic level?

WonkySights · 23rd May 2006, 16:11

Please [How To] this post..........

richierich · 26th June 2006, 08:51

Anybody actually played with the mic settings, if so did it help. I received a mail 2 - 3 weeks ago from Honda CS saying they were looking into the problem, but I guess it might take some time to get a resolution.

Any feedback would be appreciated, still struggling with the HFT.

lawful56 · 26th June 2006, 11:37

played with the mic settings, and it helped.

richierich · 26th June 2006, 16:20

To be honest I played with mine too, although didn't actually know what I was doing, or what it did, or even if me chatting away to the car in diagnostic menu whilst driving would do anything, but a few people have said the phone sounds better at higher speed.

What exactly did playing with the menu achieve?

steveking1000 · 25th July 2006, 08:43

changing the mic over helped me loads more than setting the level

richierich · 25th July 2006, 13:57

I've had a response from Honda CS, there apparantly is a fix, the email received from Honda suggests a counter measure has been introduced. I will let you know how I get on.

Parky · 25th July 2006, 15:53

Very interesting. Let us all know how you get on.
If this is in fact a fix, then there could be a big queue at the dealers.

Ian

elfa7 · 25th July 2006, 19:00

This is interesting. I'll 'phone my dealer in the morning.

Maldax · 25th July 2006, 21:01

I would guess they have finally move the mic!

Copycat · 25th July 2006, 21:37

I'm guessing the 'parts' in question is just the panel with the holes on the right side instead of them being on the left.

karlak · 25th July 2006, 21:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Copycat

I'm guessing the 'parts' in question is just the panel with the holes on the right side instead of them being on the left.

Would'nt help with those that have a sunroof

- The right hand side hole is not an option, that is where the switch for the roof blinds is located

Maldax · 25th July 2006, 22:10

Quote:

Would'nt help with those that have a sunroof - The right hand side hole is not an option, that is where the switch for the roof blinds is located

I would think the have swapped them, one would hope it's not just a bloke in Swindon with a 2mm Drill!

karlak · 26th July 2006, 08:54

Good news - I have found the proposed fix -

Got it from another site. They get the junior mechanic to superglue it on the dash, in front of the Speedo.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...microphone.jpg

richierich · 26th July 2006, 11:54

Called my local dealer this morning, spoke to service to get the car in and fixed, unfortunately the lady on the desk did not even realise there was a problem with the HFT let alone there being a fix to it.

I am waiting for a call back, thats 2 calls from Honda Dealer I am waiting for, one to do this and the other to get my fog lamp and stone chip fixed.

richierich · 26th July 2006, 12:15

Just received another call from dealer, apparantly I have a problem with a car and a phone. Again no clue as to the existance of a problem they will contact Honda CS and get back to me. I just want it sorted

richierich · 27th July 2006, 13:47

Popped in to dealers to get a price for a replacement fog lamp at lunchtime and mentioned the "fix" so far no-one is aware of the problem, or the fix, even when the dealer spoke to the lady at Honda CS who otld me there was a fix. Apparantly they need to talk to someone in technical who is out till this afternoon. But, the dealer did say he had been told it didn't involve moving the microphone (whether the mod you saw on another site was a dealer ad hoc fix I dunno). He was aware of "cones" being place over the microphone to direc the sound into it better, like a hearing trumpet. But he did suggest it might just mean changing the mic volume, now that ain't a fix.

In case you are interested, one replacement fog lamp, £145 + VAT, plus £45 fitting, apparantly its a bumper off job.

23rd May 2006, 15:18	#1 (permalink)
richierich Smell My Cheese! Rocketship door handle Join Date: 17th May 2006 Location: Bicester, Oxfordshire Posts: 1,847 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Setting Microphone Level Below is exact copy of mail from Honda dealer. "Bluetooth Voice Recognition Problem FIX If a customer is having problems refering to a Bluetooth voice recognition with the above systems plese refer to the MIC level setup on the system, this can be found by pressing MAP, MENU and CANCEL buttons on the sat nav unit and then selecting the unit check option. Once in this menu if you press the "TALK" button and speak clearly into the microphone this will set the volume for the microphone. You will notice the green bars rising on the display as you talk, we would advise getting the green bars in the upper third of the meter but not all the way to the top as this may cause the system not to recognize your voice as well." I could not find it in the unit check option, but instead used the functional setup menu. I realise it does not strictly refer to HFT, but does mention Bluetooth. Also I am not exactly sure what the setup actually does, whether it changes as you talk to increase the response to your voice, I know when I tried earlier it did begin low and get higher, but I could have perhaps began to shout.

26th July 2006, 08:54	#17 (permalink)
karlak Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 3rd June 2006 Posts: 432 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Solution at last............. Good news - I have found the proposed fix - Got it from another site. They get the junior mechanic to superglue it on the dash, in front of the Speedo. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...microphone.jpg

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23rd May 2006, 15:22	#2 (permalink)
basegreen Super Moderator Civinfo guru Join Date: 15th April 2006 Location: noitacoL Posts: 2,866 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	If you change the mic gain, be prepared to retrain the voice recognition.

23rd May 2006, 15:47	#3 (permalink)
richierich Smell My Cheese! Rocketship door handle Join Date: 17th May 2006 Location: Bicester, Oxfordshire Posts: 1,847 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Is this actually the mic gain that it is changing, I have asked Honda to confirm what this setting actually does. When you say retrain what do you mean?

23rd May 2006, 15:55	#4 (permalink)
richierich Smell My Cheese! Rocketship door handle Join Date: 17th May 2006 Location: Bicester, Oxfordshire Posts: 1,847 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Just one other thing came to me, do you think this will actually improce the HFT performance, or do we still need to loof to swap the microphone sides and then perhaps change the mic level?

23rd May 2006, 16:11	#5 (permalink)
WonkySights Wheelnut Join Date: 3rd May 2006 Location: Birmingham Posts: 73 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Please [How To] this post..........

26th June 2006, 08:51	#6 (permalink)
richierich Smell My Cheese! Rocketship door handle Join Date: 17th May 2006 Location: Bicester, Oxfordshire Posts: 1,847 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Anybody actually played with the mic settings, if so did it help. I received a mail 2 - 3 weeks ago from Honda CS saying they were looking into the problem, but I guess it might take some time to get a resolution. Any feedback would be appreciated, still struggling with the HFT.

26th June 2006, 11:37	#7 (permalink)
lawful56 Valve Cap Join Date: 17th April 2006 Location: Essex Posts: 12 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	played with the mic settings, and it helped.

26th June 2006, 16:20	#8 (permalink)
richierich Smell My Cheese! Rocketship door handle Join Date: 17th May 2006 Location: Bicester, Oxfordshire Posts: 1,847 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	To be honest I played with mine too, although didn't actually know what I was doing, or what it did, or even if me chatting away to the car in diagnostic menu whilst driving would do anything, but a few people have said the phone sounds better at higher speed. What exactly did playing with the menu achieve?

25th July 2006, 08:43	#9 (permalink)
steveking1000 Wheelnut Join Date: 9th June 2006 Location: Somerset, UK Posts: 73 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	changing the mic over helped me loads more than setting the level

25th July 2006, 13:57	#10 (permalink)
richierich Smell My Cheese! Rocketship door handle Join Date: 17th May 2006 Location: Bicester, Oxfordshire Posts: 1,847 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I've had a response from Honda CS, there apparantly is a fix, the email received from Honda suggests a counter measure has been introduced. I will let you know how I get on.

25th July 2006, 15:53	#11 (permalink)
Parky Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 4th July 2006 Posts: 304 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Very interesting. Let us all know how you get on. If this is in fact a fix, then there could be a big queue at the dealers. Ian

25th July 2006, 19:00	#12 (permalink)
elfa7 Supporter Rocketship door handle Join Date: 8th May 2006 Location: Cheshire Posts: 1,703 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	This is interesting. I'll 'phone my dealer in the morning.

25th July 2006, 21:01	#13 (permalink)
Maldax Supporter Rocketship door handle Join Date: 12th June 2006 Location: Reading, Berks Posts: 1,050 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I would guess they have finally move the mic!

26th July 2006, 11:54	#18 (permalink)
richierich Smell My Cheese! Rocketship door handle Join Date: 17th May 2006 Location: Bicester, Oxfordshire Posts: 1,847 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Called my local dealer this morning, spoke to service to get the car in and fixed, unfortunately the lady on the desk did not even realise there was a problem with the HFT let alone there being a fix to it. I am waiting for a call back, thats 2 calls from Honda Dealer I am waiting for, one to do this and the other to get my fog lamp and stone chip fixed.

26th July 2006, 12:15	#19 (permalink)
richierich Smell My Cheese! Rocketship door handle Join Date: 17th May 2006 Location: Bicester, Oxfordshire Posts: 1,847 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Just received another call from dealer, apparantly I have a problem with a car and a phone. Again no clue as to the existance of a problem they will contact Honda CS and get back to me. I just want it sorted

27th July 2006, 13:47	#20 (permalink)
richierich Smell My Cheese! Rocketship door handle Join Date: 17th May 2006 Location: Bicester, Oxfordshire Posts: 1,847 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Popped in to dealers to get a price for a replacement fog lamp at lunchtime and mentioned the "fix" so far no-one is aware of the problem, or the fix, even when the dealer spoke to the lady at Honda CS who otld me there was a fix. Apparantly they need to talk to someone in technical who is out till this afternoon. But, the dealer did say he had been told it didn't involve moving the microphone (whether the mod you saw on another site was a dealer ad hoc fix I dunno). He was aware of "cones" being place over the microphone to direc the sound into it better, like a hearing trumpet. But he did suggest it might just mean changing the mic volume, now that ain't a fix. In case you are interested, one replacement fog lamp, £145 + VAT, plus £45 fitting, apparantly its a bumper off job.