Alarm Door Super Locks

BigBoysToys · 1st June 2006, 00:09

Hello Everyone,

I'm from Portugal and just got (yesterday) my new Civic 1.8 Executive.
One of the things that i've come up to are the "Super Locks" for the doors.

What is this??? Is this the term used for central locking the car? If not, what are they for, how are they activated\desactivated and what is the difference to locking the car with the remote comand on the car key?

(I'm sorry for any mistakes)

Pottsy · 1st June 2006, 06:59

Welcome! From memory the "super locks" are just dead locks and can be set by pressing the key button twice. When the super locks are on, you cannot open a door from the inside, so it stops someone from breaking a window and opening the door that way (they have to get in and out through the broken window).

geoff · 1st June 2006, 07:30

I must really read the manual i didn't know about the locks. Thanks to all in this forum no thanks to the dealer for not telling me how many other good ideas has honda put in my car that i don't know about

BigBoysToys · 2nd June 2006, 01:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pottsy

Welcome! From memory the "super locks" are just dead locks and can be set by pressing the key button twice. When the super locks are on, you cannot open a door from the inside, so it stops someone from breaking a window and opening the door that way (they have to get in and out through the broken window).

Hi!
Ok, so with :
- Normal locks, the alarm goes off if I brake a window and open the door from the inside.
- "Super locks", can't open door from inside, but does the alarm work since the door doesnt open and I do not have the "motion detector" ????

hummmmmmmm

Kpow99 · 2nd June 2006, 08:05

Well from your Sig you have an EX right? if so the EX has Cat 1 alarm with motion and sonic (glass break) sensors, so you'll be OK. Superlock won't stop a thief but will slow down if they get in the window and try to open door to get large items out. Cat 1 should stop them from diving away though.

BigBoysToys · 2nd June 2006, 10:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kpow99

Well from your Sig you have an EX right? if so the EX has Cat 1 alarm with motion and sonic (glass break) sensors, so you'll be OK. Superlock won't stop a thief but will slow down if they get in the window and try to open door to get large items out. Cat 1 should stop them from diving away though.

Hi! I'm really not sure about that, equipment levels area different from country to country.
Motion detectors are next to the inside mirror, right? Nothing there on mine but the interior (reading lights) and roof control ...

IWANTACIVIC · 10th October 2006, 04:41

One big fault with the alarm ive found out from review of the civic is that the alarms mite be good at sensing movement they say but beens there is no battery back up its all to easy to slince so as said by kqow it mite help to stop then driving it away or even deter the easy theift but not the harden theift. Another corner cut by honda

BeeBee · 10th October 2006, 17:44

My understanding was that for a cat 1 certification, it needed a battery backup.

Bungle · 10th October 2006, 20:11

The don't hand at cat 1 certificates from Thatcham like sweeties, alarms have to be good to earn it.

Maldax · 10th October 2006, 20:45

The Thatcham Vehicle Security Categories

Category 1
Passenger Cars, LCV, HGV, Plant, Motorcycles
ELECTRONIC ALARM AND IMMOBILISER

Alarm
Perimeter detection
Ignition detection
Passenger compartment movement detection OR glass break and inclination detection
Audible warning with battery back-up power supply
Immobiliser
Passively set
Isolates a minimum of two operating circuits or systems, or a minimum of one operationally relevant vehicle control unit with coded intervention

So there you go!

IWANTACIVIC · 11th October 2006, 01:59

I read in the which mag it had no back up because they tested it ill see if i can find link or scan copie in . like the rear seat belts that open them seves if u put to much force on them .

Spartan · 19th October 2006, 19:45

Does anybody use this option then - putting the super locks on? I don't know whether to lock my car once or twice now! Doesn't explain very well in the manual.

Surely if it benefits you, why wouldn't they have made it as standard??

Kpow99 · 19th October 2006, 20:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spartan

Does anybody use this option then - putting the super locks on? I don't know whether to lock my car once or twice now! Doesn't explain very well in the manual.

Surely if it benefits you, why wouldn't they have made it as standard??

I always press twice for the super locks.

IWANTACIVIC, do you think the proffesional thief would steal a Civic for financial gain???? Merc BMW etc. yes but Civics I think not, more you opportunist and they won't get past the Cat 1 in a hurry.

When the R comes out that would be a different matter, but will still have to have a Cat1 fitted plus maybe a tracker for the insurance bods.

BeeBee · 19th October 2006, 21:07

I can't think of any reason why anyone wouldn't want to engage the superlocks. In fact, I don't know why more manufacturers don't engage deadlocks by default, instead of requiring a second keyfob push. The second push could be to disable the superlocks in case you want to leave someone in the car or something...

My father-in-law's Vectra has a similar setup whereby you push the fob a second time to deadlock the car. It doesn't matter how many times you tell him, it doesn't go in. I'm sure there are many other people that do the same, through ignorance.

WoolyCiv · 19th October 2006, 22:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kpow99

When the R comes out that would be a different matter, but will still have to have a Cat1 fitted plus maybe a tracker for the insurance bods.

Fitting of a tracker makes little or no difference to your insurance premium. Try it on confused.com, I know it surprised me as well as my mate who paid to have one fitted to his S2000

TTDegs · 19th October 2006, 23:04

depends on the car - and more importantly your age and where you live, Wooly

It's not normally a question of decreasing the premium - just that some companies won't quote at all* without one being fitted

* depending on the factors at the top

this cropped up a lot on my previous on-line home.

most oweners got quotes without them, but for some it was the only way they could get insured at all

Which then prompted a huge debate about "would you want it back if it got nicked" - but that's a different thread entirely

WoolyCiv · 19th October 2006, 23:51

Wonder what that makes the Civic & S2000, not desirable, hard to nick or is it the Preston area. Perhaps all of them ? (Now don't know if a smiley smile, confused or glum is appropriate - oh sod it

)

Kpow99 · 20th October 2006, 08:53

TT is right, it's not about reducing premium it's about getting one at all.

nitin881 · 4th May 2007, 13:47

Does anyone know if the FN2 has super locks? i pressed the key lock twice... to activate the super locks then as the manual suggested tried opening the door from the inside and suprised that it open from the inside...

does anyone know how to activate super locks if indeed the FN2 has this at all.

Cheers.

Nitin.

Ps i am not living in the UK, non-UK Fn2's may not have this.

apemonkeyman · 4th May 2007, 14:03

Did you press twice with a pause of say 2 seconds but of no more than 5 seconds? That should do the trick.

1st June 2006, 00:09	#1 (permalink)
BigBoysToys Wheelnut Join Date: 31st May 2006 Location: Portugal Posts: 55 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Door Super Locks Hello Everyone, I'm from Portugal and just got (yesterday) my new Civic 1.8 Executive. One of the things that i've come up to are the "Super Locks" for the doors. What is this??? Is this the term used for central locking the car? If not, what are they for, how are they activated\desactivated and what is the difference to locking the car with the remote comand on the car key? (I'm sorry for any mistakes)

1st June 2006, 07:30	#3 (permalink)
geoff Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 20th May 2006 Posts: 533 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	super locks I must really read the manual i didn't know about the locks. Thanks to all in this forum no thanks to the dealer for not telling me how many other good ideas has honda put in my car that i don't know about

10th October 2006, 20:45	#10 (permalink)
Maldax Supporter Rocketship door handle Join Date: 12th June 2006 Location: Reading, Berks Posts: 1,050 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	The Thatcham Vehicle Security Categories Category 1 Passenger Cars, LCV, HGV, Plant, Motorcycles ELECTRONIC ALARM AND IMMOBILISER Alarm Perimeter detection Ignition detection Passenger compartment movement detection OR glass break and inclination detection Audible warning with battery back-up power supply Immobiliser Passively set Isolates a minimum of two operating circuits or systems, or a minimum of one operationally relevant vehicle control unit with coded intervention So there you go!

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1st June 2006, 06:59	#2 (permalink)
Pottsy Administrator Civinfo master Join Date: 10th April 2006 Location: Leics Posts: 5,090 Thanks: 18 Thanked 111 Times in 64 Posts iTrader: (0)	Welcome! From memory the "super locks" are just dead locks and can be set by pressing the key button twice. When the super locks are on, you cannot open a door from the inside, so it stops someone from breaking a window and opening the door that way (they have to get in and out through the broken window).

2nd June 2006, 08:05	#5 (permalink)
Kpow99 Explosive Mind Unleashed Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 5th May 2006 Location: London Posts: 535 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Well from your Sig you have an EX right? if so the EX has Cat 1 alarm with motion and sonic (glass break) sensors, so you'll be OK. Superlock won't stop a thief but will slow down if they get in the window and try to open door to get large items out. Cat 1 should stop them from diving away though.

10th October 2006, 04:41	#7 (permalink)
IWANTACIVIC Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 16th September 2006 Location: LINCS UK Posts: 658 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	One big fault with the alarm ive found out from review of the civic is that the alarms mite be good at sensing movement they say but beens there is no battery back up its all to easy to slince so as said by kqow it mite help to stop then driving it away or even deter the easy theift but not the harden theift. Another corner cut by honda

10th October 2006, 17:44	#8 (permalink)
BeeBee Wheelnut Join Date: 5th October 2006 Posts: 52 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	My understanding was that for a cat 1 certification, it needed a battery backup.

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Bungle Rocketship door handle Join Date: 3rd July 2006 Location: SE London/Kent Posts: 1,217 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	The don't hand at cat 1 certificates from Thatcham like sweeties, alarms have to be good to earn it.

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IWANTACIVIC Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 16th September 2006 Location: LINCS UK Posts: 658 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	I read in the which mag it had no back up because they tested it ill see if i can find link or scan copie in . like the rear seat belts that open them seves if u put to much force on them .

19th October 2006, 19:45	#12 (permalink)
Spartan Valve Cap Join Date: 19th August 2006 Location: Cheshire Posts: 19 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Does anybody use this option then - putting the super locks on? I don't know whether to lock my car once or twice now! Doesn't explain very well in the manual. Surely if it benefits you, why wouldn't they have made it as standard??

19th October 2006, 21:07	#14 (permalink)
BeeBee Wheelnut Join Date: 5th October 2006 Posts: 52 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	I can't think of any reason why anyone wouldn't want to engage the superlocks. In fact, I don't know why more manufacturers don't engage deadlocks by default, instead of requiring a second keyfob push. The second push could be to disable the superlocks in case you want to leave someone in the car or something... My father-in-law's Vectra has a similar setup whereby you push the fob a second time to deadlock the car. It doesn't matter how many times you tell him, it doesn't go in. I'm sure there are many other people that do the same, through ignorance.

19th October 2006, 23:04	#16 (permalink)
TTDegs Super Moderator Civinfo master Join Date: 4th August 2006 Location: Cardiff Posts: 5,638 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader: (0)	depends on the car - and more importantly your age and where you live, Wooly It's not normally a question of decreasing the premium - just that some companies won't quote at all* without one being fitted * depending on the factors at the top this cropped up a lot on my previous on-line home. most oweners got quotes without them, but for some it was the only way they could get insured at all Which then prompted a huge debate about "would you want it back if it got nicked" - but that's a different thread entirely

19th October 2006, 23:51	#17 (permalink)
WoolyCiv 12th June 2006 1.8EX Rocketship door handle Join Date: 28th May 2006 Location: Lancashire Posts: 1,118 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Wonder what that makes the Civic & S2000, not desirable, hard to nick or is it the Preston area. Perhaps all of them ? (Now don't know if a smiley smile, confused or glum is appropriate - oh sod it )

20th October 2006, 08:53	#18 (permalink)
Kpow99 Explosive Mind Unleashed Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 5th May 2006 Location: London Posts: 535 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	TT is right, it's not about reducing premium it's about getting one at all.

4th May 2007, 13:47	#19 (permalink)
nitin881 Valve Cap Join Date: 31st March 2007 Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Does anyone know if the FN2 has super locks? i pressed the key lock twice... to activate the super locks then as the manual suggested tried opening the door from the inside and suprised that it open from the inside... does anyone know how to activate super locks if indeed the FN2 has this at all. Cheers. Nitin. Ps i am not living in the UK, non-UK Fn2's may not have this.

4th May 2007, 14:03	#20 (permalink)
apemonkeyman Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 2nd February 2007 Location: Gloucester Posts: 663 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Did you press twice with a pause of say 2 seconds but of no more than 5 seconds? That should do the trick.