Phone HFT interference with Orange Phones

justingarnett · 14th March 2007, 15:26

Hi, I've just got my new CDTi EX Civic with the HFT and was wondering if anyone has an issue using Orange handsets with it?

People who phone me whilst I'm in the car complain of interference being heard which changes in severity depending on where I move the handset within the cabin.

I've put my orange sim card into other handsets with the same result. I've also tried other people's orange sim cards in my handset and theirs with the same result.

I don't get interference when using an O2 or vodafone sim / handset. This makes me think that the frequency that the Orange network operates is in conflict with the HFT system.

Can anyone else confirm this behaviour and is it a problem with HFT or Orange?

Thanks

Justin

SimonB · 14th March 2007, 15:37

Ummm strange one..... if it was a network interferance problem, it would more likely be affected by O2 or Vodafone as there operate on a lower frequency (900Mhz).

Orange and T-Mobile both operate on (1800Mhz) - not heard of any interference problems with any networks and the cars HFT units.

Have you got any other devices in the car that might broadcast and cause the interference?

justingarnett · 14th March 2007, 15:44

Nothing I can think of. It seems worst around the center console in the arm rest holder. Right where i'd want to put the phone!

TTDegs · 14th March 2007, 16:26

bizzarely, I have exactly this problem!

BUT

Mine happens with my Vodaphone Nokia (work phone)
My Orange D900 is fine...

Can confirm though that mine is worst when the Nokia is in the armrest thingy, so I just leave it in my pocket now, or the driver's door.

justingarnett · 24th March 2007, 08:26

I have resolved the problem by getting a replacement sim card. The old sim was several years old having had the handset replaced over the years.

jimbo · 25th March 2007, 20:45

I too have the same problem with interferance using a Nokia on Orange , I just had an upgrade to a N73 with a new sim card and the problem seems a lot better , but it has not gone completely , perhaps I will experiment with different locations in the car , I usually locate it in the armrest.
Jimbo

AndyS · 26th March 2007, 11:16

I have the same problem with my Sony Ericsson K610i on Orange. The SIM card is new. Not sure if it changes dependant on cabin position or not. The phone normally stays in my pocket. The caller complains of a whining or buzzing noise but it comes and goes.

okehciv · 26th March 2007, 14:06

I have an orange phone but not the problems, like TT tho I have a Samsung D900 !

modo · 4th February 2008, 21:57

I have this Problem too. I have Nokia 6300 on Orange network.
1.8 EX 08 model. Noise changes where I postion the phone in the cabin but I am told it can be very bad to almost not there.
Best way to describe it is like mic feedback or loud buzzing.
This is my only disappointment with a very good car.
Any help would be great.

XCGuard · 5th February 2008, 03:49

I have a HTC Touch on orange and mine also sends out an interference sound. This is going to sound really weird but i've experimented and it seems to be true:The interference is only there when I am near a set of traffic lights, I asked the person I was speaking to tell me every time they heard the buzzing, and they heard it every time I was near a set of lights, as soon as I drove through them the noise stopped and the call was so clear they couldn't tell I was on handsfree.

RickyBoy · 5th February 2008, 06:09

I have LG Viewty on Orange and no probs here. Even My deaf gran can hear me while at 70mph...

Ricky

Kremmen · 5th February 2008, 07:17

Nokia 6230i via Orange - no probs here

bucketp · 5th February 2008, 12:26

I have a nokia N73 on 3 and a nokia 6300 on Orange both work fine with no problems.

Honda100 · 5th February 2008, 13:38

I use a Samsung i600 on Orange and there is no interference. My Blackberry on Vodaphone works OK as well.

justingarnett · 5th February 2008, 13:52

Even though I have replaced the Sim and the interference has pretty much gone, I still get the problem occasionally.

I've found the best place to put the phone is in the folding silver door compartment just above the gear stick. Not sure why this is the best place for it, but the issue pretty much never occurs there.

I was wondering if anyone else has the same experience or has tried putting the phone in other places?

Kremmen · 6th February 2008, 07:46

My phone has varied between my top pocket to the brodit holder down by the gearstick to inside the centre armrest console and just plonked on the front seat.

Can't think where else and it works OK in all the above.

modo · 7th February 2008, 21:55

justingarnett
Found the same thing myself.
Took car to dealers who have done the (usual?) mic mod, they say it may or may not help!
Found turning off auto climate control and turning off the fan can help.
With the phone in the folding silver door compartment I seem to now even leave the climate control on.
Did some tests and found - as long as I don't get my phone near the mic the person I am calling does not get the buzzing/feedback noise. If it starts (moving phone near to mic)it does not completly go away moving the phone well away from the mic, to stop the noise I have to hang up and call the person again with the phone low down i.e. in the folding silver door compartment.

14th March 2007, 15:26	#1 (permalink)
justingarnett Valve Cap Join Date: 14th March 2007 Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	HFT interference with Orange Phones Hi, I've just got my new CDTi EX Civic with the HFT and was wondering if anyone has an issue using Orange handsets with it? People who phone me whilst I'm in the car complain of interference being heard which changes in severity depending on where I move the handset within the cabin. I've put my orange sim card into other handsets with the same result. I've also tried other people's orange sim cards in my handset and theirs with the same result. I don't get interference when using an O2 or vodafone sim / handset. This makes me think that the frequency that the Orange network operates is in conflict with the HFT system. Can anyone else confirm this behaviour and is it a problem with HFT or Orange? Thanks Justin

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justingarnett Valve Cap Join Date: 14th March 2007 Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Fixed it! I have resolved the problem by getting a replacement sim card. The old sim was several years old having had the handset replaced over the years.

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justingarnett Valve Cap Join Date: 14th March 2007 Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Best position to avoid interference Even though I have replaced the Sim and the interference has pretty much gone, I still get the problem occasionally. I've found the best place to put the phone is in the folding silver door compartment just above the gear stick. Not sure why this is the best place for it, but the issue pretty much never occurs there. I was wondering if anyone else has the same experience or has tried putting the phone in other places?

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modo Valve Cap Join Date: 12th December 2007 Location: Stoke, UK Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	justingarnett Found the same thing myself. Took car to dealers who have done the (usual?) mic mod, they say it may or may not help! Found turning off auto climate control and turning off the fan can help. With the phone in the folding silver door compartment I seem to now even leave the climate control on. Did some tests and found - as long as I don't get my phone near the mic the person I am calling does not get the buzzing/feedback noise. If it starts (moving phone near to mic)it does not completly go away moving the phone well away from the mic, to stop the noise I have to hang up and call the person again with the phone low down i.e. in the folding silver door compartment. Last edited by modo; 7th February 2008 at 21:58.

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14th March 2007, 15:37	#2 (permalink)
SimonB Wheelnut Join Date: 1st November 2006 Posts: 64 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader: (0)	Ummm strange one..... if it was a network interferance problem, it would more likely be affected by O2 or Vodafone as there operate on a lower frequency (900Mhz). Orange and T-Mobile both operate on (1800Mhz) - not heard of any interference problems with any networks and the cars HFT units. Have you got any other devices in the car that might broadcast and cause the interference?

14th March 2007, 15:44	#3 (permalink)
justingarnett Valve Cap Join Date: 14th March 2007 Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Nothing I can think of. It seems worst around the center console in the arm rest holder. Right where i'd want to put the phone!

14th March 2007, 16:26	#4 (permalink)
TTDegs Super Moderator Civinfo master Join Date: 4th August 2006 Location: Cardiff Posts: 5,638 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader: (0)	bizzarely, I have exactly this problem! BUT Mine happens with my Vodaphone Nokia (work phone) My Orange D900 is fine... Can confirm though that mine is worst when the Nokia is in the armrest thingy, so I just leave it in my pocket now, or the driver's door.

25th March 2007, 20:45	#6 (permalink)
jimbo Valve Cap Join Date: 7th August 2006 Location: Essex Posts: 39 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	I too have the same problem with interferance using a Nokia on Orange , I just had an upgrade to a N73 with a new sim card and the problem seems a lot better , but it has not gone completely , perhaps I will experiment with different locations in the car , I usually locate it in the armrest. Jimbo

26th March 2007, 11:16	#7 (permalink)
AndyS Valve Cap Join Date: 26th January 2007 Location: London Posts: 12 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	I have the same problem with my Sony Ericsson K610i on Orange. The SIM card is new. Not sure if it changes dependant on cabin position or not. The phone normally stays in my pocket. The caller complains of a whining or buzzing noise but it comes and goes.

26th March 2007, 14:06	#8 (permalink)
okehciv Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 21st January 2007 Location: shaw gtr manchester Posts: 977 Thanks: 6 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts iTrader: (0)	I have an orange phone but not the problems, like TT tho I have a Samsung D900 !

4th February 2008, 21:57	#9 (permalink)
modo Valve Cap Join Date: 12th December 2007 Location: Stoke, UK Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	I have this Problem too. I have Nokia 6300 on Orange network. 1.8 EX 08 model. Noise changes where I postion the phone in the cabin but I am told it can be very bad to almost not there. Best way to describe it is like mic feedback or loud buzzing. This is my only disappointment with a very good car. Any help would be great.

5th February 2008, 03:49	#10 (permalink)
XCGuard Wheelnut Join Date: 1st January 2008 Location: Midlands. Posts: 78 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	I have a HTC Touch on orange and mine also sends out an interference sound. This is going to sound really weird but i've experimented and it seems to be true:The interference is only there when I am near a set of traffic lights, I asked the person I was speaking to tell me every time they heard the buzzing, and they heard it every time I was near a set of lights, as soon as I drove through them the noise stopped and the call was so clear they couldn't tell I was on handsfree.

5th February 2008, 06:09	#11 (permalink)
RickyBoy Valve Cap Join Date: 6th September 2007 Location: Fife Posts: 26 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	I have LG Viewty on Orange and no probs here. Even My deaf gran can hear me while at 70mph... Ricky

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