Alarm 1.4 SE - DSI; does it have a Thatcham Cat 1 Immobiliser?

generationgav · 11th May 2007, 21:00

I've just set up car insurance and got my documents through.
To finalise it they need some details from me; one of them is "Thatcham Category 1 Immobiliser Declaration" but I'm really not sure the 1.4 has Cat 1, i'm pretty sure it doesn't have the movement sensors anyway!

I told them when taking out the policy I only had original security in my car, am I wrong or is there anything I can do?

czechplastik · 11th May 2007, 21:02

I have no idea, at a guess I would say that it does (or should do). Nothing mentioned in the wiki, I'm sure someone knows!

Maldax · 11th May 2007, 21:24

Don't think it's Cat 1 just had a look on the Honda website

Brodick · 11th May 2007, 21:25

As far as I know the 1.4 engined cars have perimeter security alarm
only not the Cat 1
best to check with Honda or your dealer

Charles_Harding · 12th May 2007, 11:19

I think that you'll find the Cat 1 is only on the EX.

"The most useful and least expensive household repair tool is the telephone!"

Charles H.

generationgav · 12th May 2007, 12:14

I've just been told by the insurance company that it does indeed have Cat 1.
My stealers weren't sure, quick PM/message to Holdcroft I think!

Brodick · 12th May 2007, 16:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by generationgav

I've just been told by the insurance company that it does indeed have Cat 1.
My stealers weren't sure, quick PM/message to Holdcroft I think!

Hmm I suppose if you insurance company are wrong they only have themselves to blame ( but I would seek a second opinion)

Charles_Harding · 12th May 2007, 16:53

Got the brochure out

SE 1.4: Perimeter security alarm

SE 1.8 & 2.2: Perimeter security alarm

Sport 1.8 & 2.2: Perimeter security alarm

ES 1.8 & 2.2: Interior & perimeter security alarm (CAT 1)

EX 1.8 & 2.2: Interior & perimeter security alarm (CAT 1)

That's what it says in the book!

"I just went to complain about that new by-pass thing and I got stuck in traffic!"

Charles H.

Brodick · 12th May 2007, 17:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charles_Harding

Got the brochure out

SE 1.4: Perimeter security alarm

SE 1.8: Perimeter security alarm

Sport 1.8 & 2.2: Perimeter security alarm

ES 1.8 & 2.2: Interior & perimeter security alarm (CAT 1)

EX 1.8 & 2.2: Interior & perimeter security alarm (CAT 1)

That's what it says in the book!

"I just went to complain about that new by-pass thing and I got stuck in traffic!"

Charles H.

what does the SE 2.2 have ???

Charles_Harding · 12th May 2007, 17:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brodick

what does the SE 2.2 have ???

Sorry missed that bit out.

SE 1.8 & 2.2: Perimeter security alarm.

"I drive way too fast to worry about cholesterol!"

Charles H.

Brodick · 12th May 2007, 17:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charles_Harding

Sorry missed that bit out.

SE 1.8 & 2.2: Perimeter security alarm.

"I drive way too fast to worry about cholesterol!"

Charles H.

sorry charles I just couldn't resist

Skippy · 13th May 2007, 08:05

As far as I'm aware, all cars sold in the EU are required to be fitted with some form of electronic engine immobilisation (Vehicle Security Directive). Now this does not specifically require Thatcham testing, but any ECU based immobiliser with a transponder as key is likely to be good enough to pass Thatcham: There's not really anything you can bypass to get the engine started amongst other things!

Alarms are a separate issue.

generationgav · 22nd May 2007, 17:59

The immobiliser MUST be Tathcam approved, my insurance company says it is, thatcham says it isn't!

My dealer told me that it wasn't, but chasing around (mainly for confirmation in my letter) HUK say that the 1.4 definitely has a Thatcham Cat one approved alarm system!

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generationgav Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 29th May 2006 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 807 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader: (0)	1.4 SE - DSI; does it have a Thatcham Cat 1 Immobiliser? I've just set up car insurance and got my documents through. To finalise it they need some details from me; one of them is "Thatcham Category 1 Immobiliser Declaration" but I'm really not sure the 1.4 has Cat 1, i'm pretty sure it doesn't have the movement sensors anyway! I told them when taking out the policy I only had original security in my car, am I wrong or is there anything I can do?

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Charles_Harding Civinfo guru Join Date: 14th August 2006 Location: S.E. London Posts: 3,288 Thanks: 113 Thanked 27 Times in 26 Posts iTrader: (0)	Got the brochure out SE 1.4: Perimeter security alarm SE 1.8 & 2.2: Perimeter security alarm Sport 1.8 & 2.2: Perimeter security alarm ES 1.8 & 2.2: Interior & perimeter security alarm (CAT 1) EX 1.8 & 2.2: Interior & perimeter security alarm (CAT 1) That's what it says in the book! "I just went to complain about that new by-pass thing and I got stuck in traffic!" Charles H. Last edited by Charles_Harding; 12th May 2007 at 17:09. Reason: Couldn't find the '&' on the keyboard!

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czechplastik King of the rodeo Civinfo guru Join Date: 24th October 2006 Location: Belfast Posts: 4,500 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	I have no idea, at a guess I would say that it does (or should do). Nothing mentioned in the wiki, I'm sure someone knows!

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Maldax Supporter Rocketship door handle Join Date: 12th June 2006 Location: Reading, Berks Posts: 1,050 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Don't think it's Cat 1 just had a look on the Honda website

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Brodick Perfect Guy! Rocketship door handle Join Date: 2nd December 2006 Location: Central Scotland Posts: 1,720 Thanks: 0 Thanked 8 Times in 7 Posts iTrader: (0)	As far as I know the 1.4 engined cars have perimeter security alarm only not the Cat 1 best to check with Honda or your dealer

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Charles_Harding Civinfo guru Join Date: 14th August 2006 Location: S.E. London Posts: 3,288 Thanks: 113 Thanked 27 Times in 26 Posts iTrader: (0)	I think that you'll find the Cat 1 is only on the EX. *"The most useful and least expensive household repair tool is the telephone!"* Charles H.

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generationgav Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 29th May 2006 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 807 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader: (0)	I've just been told by the insurance company that it does indeed have Cat 1. My stealers weren't sure, quick PM/message to Holdcroft I think!

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Skippy Wheelnut Join Date: 27th April 2007 Location: Midlands Posts: 82 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	As far as I'm aware, all cars sold in the EU are required to be fitted with some form of electronic engine immobilisation (Vehicle Security Directive). Now this does not specifically require Thatcham testing, but any ECU based immobiliser with a transponder as key is likely to be good enough to pass Thatcham: There's not really anything you can bypass to get the engine started amongst other things! Alarms are a separate issue.

22nd May 2007, 17:59	#13 (permalink)
generationgav Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 29th May 2006 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 807 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader: (0)	The immobiliser MUST be Tathcam approved, my insurance company says it is, thatcham says it isn't! My dealer told me that it wasn't, but chasing around (mainly for confirmation in my letter) HUK say that the 1.4 definitely has a Thatcham Cat one approved alarm system!