Phone Update on Hands Free Quality problem - Page 11

apemonkeyman · 14th May 2007, 15:08

So is the point of the mic level screen (I know it's for Honda techs) to show you how loud you should speak or actually to set the mic level parameter purely by speaking?

If I talk normally (so my Mrs can hear me from the front passenger seat) then the test voicemail is unrecognisable; if I talk loudly (so my Mrs can hear me from the boot

) then it muffles out quite a lot.

I know logically that half way between should be just right but wondering will I get better results if I also pull out the foam & replace it with the electrical tape fix... Trying to optimise it....

Oops, better go let her out of the boot... she's been in there overnight!

Charles_Harding · 14th May 2007, 15:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by rhodgreen

Sounds like your using a Sony Ericsson phone? I've used a variety of mobiles with the HFT and SE seem to do this every now and again - my phone then reboots when I hang up when this occurs. (i.e for once I'm saying the fault doesn't lie with Honda!!).

'tisa Samsung D900 slider.

All the other bits all work ok, and today there was no problem at all.

Was able to give Lady H. orders from afar as usual

"A fool and his money are soon elected!"

Charles H.

Kremmen · 14th May 2007, 16:05

So what your saying is that there may not be a problem with the HFT after all?

It may be Lady H 'copping a deafun' on purpose

I've got one of those at home as well, I think she calls it 'selective hearing'.

dondon · 15th May 2007, 13:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charles_Harding

I heard the ringing tone through the space ship's speakers, and then I heard a tiny voice from my pocket, it was Lady H, in my pocket!

The HFT had done the dailing but obviously through some quirk in the equipment, it gave up before completion of the task.

I then had to stop, turn off the engine and then talk to the lovely Lady H using the bit of the 'hands free' that Millie didn't understand.

I believe that in this situation you can do a "Transfer" HFT command.

Charles_Harding · 15th May 2007, 13:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by dondon

I believe that in this situation you can do a "Transfer" HFT command.

Cheers.

Lets find that manual!

"In the High Street yesterday I found a wallet with £100 in it. I was going to return it, but I thought that if I had lost £100 how would I feel? I then realised I would want to be taught a lesson!"

Charles H.

DUNCAN · 28th July 2007, 13:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by DUNCAN

Had the mod done on mine.the voice command is still no good thats HFT and all voice commands.????????????? any help

Charles_Harding · 28th July 2007, 13:26

Be like me and Millie.

Find a phone box!

......or write!

"The quickest way to get your child's attention is to sit down and look comfortable!"

Charles H.

DUNCAN · 9th August 2007, 20:56

any help voice command still no good

FWH · 8th September 2007, 18:56

I experience the following.

1. Car commands, like "CD play" , "traffic event list" and "how long to destination" work fine. 1 out of 20 may miss.

2. No-one has complained about quality of HFT when talking to them.

3. The voice recognition for the phone sucks.
Two to Four attempts often needed.
Eg "Call home" turns into "three" "five" "hash" or something.

I am guessing the phone system is completly seperate with its own voice recog software that may not be as good as the other system.

Is this right?

thunt · 17th April 2008, 16:18

I find the same thing.

I say "phone status".

The HFT says "*3#, would you like to dial"

I say "phone status", a little louder

The HFT says "5#3#, would you like to dial"

I shout "phone status"

The HFT says "3*4#, would you like to dial"

I say "Oh for F#*# sake!"

The HFT says "Pardon"

It really is rubbish.

TTDegs · 17th April 2008, 17:28

thunt, apols, I can't recall

how old is your car, and if it's an older one has it had the HFT fix done to it?

thunt · 17th April 2008, 23:24

It's an April 2007 and I think it has the fix done - a rectangle of foam with 2 cut outs stuck over the microphone.

Kremmen · 18th April 2008, 06:57

Mine is a March 2007 and all that had was some black gauze stuff with cutouts. Certainly not foam - I added the foam myself.

thunt · 18th April 2008, 09:04

Maybe not foam then, but a soft rubbery compound, maybe 2mm thick. I read the Honda fix in the FAQ's and thought mine had already been done - now I'm not so sure.

rhodgreen · 18th April 2008, 09:32

Personally, I don't think the fix is a long term solution. Mine seems to be slowly getting worse again. Maybe the foam deteriorates with time? Time to add some more to see if it works!

Kremmen · 18th April 2008, 10:30

The basic fix using foam was to ensure that the air gap between the microphone housing and the plastic grill microphone holes was closed completely.

The 2mm gauze doesn't close the gap so the microphone also picks up background noise from within the roof area.

rhodgreen · 18th April 2008, 11:19

So how does the mic look with new cars? Can anyone take the cover off and take a simple pic? Anyone had their mic replaced (recently - I remember initially people were getting a like for like which still needed a fix)?

TTDegs · 18th April 2008, 11:46

mine is still a DIY fix I think - unless Dan and his guys replaced it at the last service (I haven't checked

)

still works ok though

thunt · 18th April 2008, 11:47

I'll take a photo of mine. Although its not a new car, the mic has more than just the black gauze I've seen on other photos. On top of the black gauze there seems to be a black bitumen type layer around the outside edge and running across the middle.

scrofts007 · 28th April 2008, 21:12

Mine is appalling - given up with voice tags altogether - it will recognize some numbers, but always either misses off the beginning zero, or puts it in twice! I was so busy shouting at it earlier this month, I now have a speeding fine to pay - I'd have been better risking the phone useage fine - far less chance of getting caught! Think I should sue Honda for goods not of merchantable quality?

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This thread is about: Update on Hands Free Quality problem, it's in Electronics at the Honda Civic forum Civinfo; So is the point of the mic level screen (I know it's for Honda techs) to show you how loud you should speak or actually ...

14th May 2007, 15:08	#201 (permalink)
apemonkeyman Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 2nd February 2007 Location: Gloucester Posts: 665 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	So is the point of the mic level screen (I know it's for Honda techs) to show you how loud you should speak or actually to set the mic level parameter purely by speaking? If I talk normally (so my Mrs can hear me from the front passenger seat) then the test voicemail is unrecognisable; if I talk loudly (so my Mrs can hear me from the boot ) then it muffles out quite a lot. I know logically that half way between should be just right but wondering will I get better results if I also pull out the foam & replace it with the electrical tape fix... Trying to optimise it.... Oops, better go let her out of the boot... she's been in there overnight!

14th May 2007, 16:05	#203 (permalink)
Kremmen Krem de la Krem Civinfo guru Join Date: 7th January 2007 Location: West London Posts: 2,840 Thanks: 13 Thanked 18 Times in 18 Posts iTrader: (0)	So what your saying is that there may not be a problem with the HFT after all? It may be Lady H 'copping a deafun' on purpose I've got one of those at home as well, I think she calls it 'selective hearing'.

28th July 2007, 13:26	#207 (permalink)
Charles_Harding Civinfo guru Join Date: 14th August 2006 Location: S.E. London Posts: 3,303 Thanks: 113 Thanked 27 Times in 26 Posts iTrader: (0)	Be like me and Millie. Find a phone box! ......or write! *"The quickest way to get your child's attention is to sit down and look comfortable!"* Charles H.

8th September 2007, 18:56	#209 (permalink)
FWH Super Moderator Civinfo master Join Date: 3rd June 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 5,987 Thanks: 14 Thanked 66 Times in 61 Posts iTrader: (0)	I experience the following. 1. Car commands, like "CD play" , "traffic event list" and "how long to destination" work fine. 1 out of 20 may miss. 2. No-one has complained about quality of HFT when talking to them. 3. The voice recognition for the phone sucks. Two to Four attempts often needed. Eg "Call home" turns into "three" "five" "hash" or something. I am guessing the phone system is completly seperate with its own voice recog software that may not be as good as the other system. Is this right?

17th April 2008, 16:18	#210 (permalink)
thunt Supporter Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 14th February 2008 Location: Devon, UK Posts: 108 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader: (0)	I find the same thing. I say "phone status". The HFT says "3#, would you like to dial" I say "phone status", a little louder The HFT says "5#3#, would you like to dial" I shout "phone status" The HFT says "34#, would you like to dial" I say "Oh for F#*# sake!" The HFT says "Pardon" It really is rubbish.

17th April 2008, 17:28	#211 (permalink)
TTDegs Super Moderator Civinfo master Join Date: 4th August 2006 Location: Cardiff Posts: 5,638 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader: (0)	thunt, apols, I can't recall how old is your car, and if it's an older one has it had the HFT fix done to it?

17th April 2008, 23:24	#212 (permalink)
thunt Supporter Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 14th February 2008 Location: Devon, UK Posts: 108 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader: (0)	It's an April 2007 and I think it has the fix done - a rectangle of foam with 2 cut outs stuck over the microphone.

18th April 2008, 06:57	#213 (permalink)
Kremmen Krem de la Krem Civinfo guru Join Date: 7th January 2007 Location: West London Posts: 2,840 Thanks: 13 Thanked 18 Times in 18 Posts iTrader: (0)	Mine is a March 2007 and all that had was some black gauze stuff with cutouts. Certainly not foam - I added the foam myself.

18th April 2008, 09:04	#214 (permalink)
thunt Supporter Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 14th February 2008 Location: Devon, UK Posts: 108 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader: (0)	Maybe not foam then, but a soft rubbery compound, maybe 2mm thick. I read the Honda fix in the FAQ's and thought mine had already been done - now I'm not so sure.

18th April 2008, 09:32	#215 (permalink)
rhodgreen Blue Ambient Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 3rd November 2006 Location: Southampton Posts: 154 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Personally, I don't think the fix is a long term solution. Mine seems to be slowly getting worse again. Maybe the foam deteriorates with time? Time to add some more to see if it works!

18th April 2008, 10:30	#216 (permalink)
Kremmen Krem de la Krem Civinfo guru Join Date: 7th January 2007 Location: West London Posts: 2,840 Thanks: 13 Thanked 18 Times in 18 Posts iTrader: (0)	The basic fix using foam was to ensure that the air gap between the microphone housing and the plastic grill microphone holes was closed completely. The 2mm gauze doesn't close the gap so the microphone also picks up background noise from within the roof area.

18th April 2008, 11:19	#217 (permalink)
rhodgreen Blue Ambient Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 3rd November 2006 Location: Southampton Posts: 154 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	So how does the mic look with new cars? Can anyone take the cover off and take a simple pic? Anyone had their mic replaced (recently - I remember initially people were getting a like for like which still needed a fix)?

18th April 2008, 11:46	#218 (permalink)
TTDegs Super Moderator Civinfo master Join Date: 4th August 2006 Location: Cardiff Posts: 5,638 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader: (0)	mine is still a DIY fix I think - unless Dan and his guys replaced it at the last service (I haven't checked ) still works ok though

18th April 2008, 11:47	#219 (permalink)
thunt Supporter Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 14th February 2008 Location: Devon, UK Posts: 108 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader: (0)	I'll take a photo of mine. Although its not a new car, the mic has more than just the black gauze I've seen on other photos. On top of the black gauze there seems to be a black bitumen type layer around the outside edge and running across the middle.

28th April 2008, 21:12	#220 (permalink)
scrofts007 Supporter Valve Cap Join Date: 19th April 2008 Location: Derbys Posts: 28 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Mine is appalling - given up with voice tags altogether - it will recognize some numbers, but always either misses off the beginning zero, or puts it in twice! I was so busy shouting at it earlier this month, I now have a speeding fine to pay - I'd have been better risking the phone useage fine - far less chance of getting caught! Think I should sue Honda for goods not of merchantable quality?