Phone Update on Hands Free Quality problem - Page 4

DUNCAN · 6th September 2006, 19:18

be better for honda to pay some one to drive the new car for 4 to 8 weeks before they let it out ,.all fixs could be done befor thay let any more out.

richierich · 6th September 2006, 20:11

Yeah I was a little surprised as the reason for the delay in getting it in was the testing they were doing on a couple of techies Civics. As I said before though I am pretty certain the biggest delay is purely transport related.

And anyway (whatever others may say) I am genuinely pleased that Honda have offered to do this for me, it seems unprecedented to date as far as I have ever experienced for what is in effect a non mechanical problem. It has taken its time, but I wish it to be known that I am pleased, I just want it back, I miss my little car.

Its only the second time we have been apart, the first time was when the dealer had a go at the HFT amongst other things. So in response to some quarters who suggested you don't ring Panasonic when your DVD player goes up the spout, the dealer I got it from have had their go, and they said nothing was wrong, and to be fair to them, functionally it works, but not very well. I believe I have gone about things the right way, and even the Lease Company I got the car from are happy with the way things are being done, they don't want to get involved almost, unless I hit a brick wall.

richierich · 7th September 2006, 13:47

I have news on the fix from Honda, got the email just a few moments ago. So any guesses??

I will post the answer soon.

elfa7 · 7th September 2006, 13:49

They are keeping your car for another two weeks.

richierich · 7th September 2006, 13:57

No its coming home on Monday.

elfa7 · 7th September 2006, 13:59

Have they told you what they've done to improve things ?.

Ancient Nerd · 7th September 2006, 14:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by richierich

I have news on the fix from Honda, got the email just a few moments ago. So any guesses??

Er... Foam; Sticky tape; Move mic to right side + drill holes (possibly + foam + sticky tape)

Someone on this forum is going to get commission for designing the fix.

BG, Pottsy, is it possible to get a flying pig emoticon? I've missed one ever since I started posting about Honda here.

richierich · 7th September 2006, 14:02

Exact scope of fix to follow shortly, lets build an air of anticipation, and I need some more Muffins & Marmite.

richierich · 7th September 2006, 14:09

Well, lets put you out of your misery.

A big round of applause to WonkySights who correctly predicted the fix. http://www.civinfo.com/forum/modify-...nce-vt849.html

Yes thats right they have eliminated the airgap between the microphone and the grille cover by lowering the microphone
assembly slightly. It sounds better in their words.

I guess a thank you to Honda is also due, its taken its time in coming and perhaps some of the ideas may have been around in one form or another prior to the fix, but at least we have success now.

Role on the 18th, get the dampers done and the bumper and I will gladly shout from the roof tops I have a fantastic car, its not just going to be great anymore.

Thanks to everyone on here, I am sure together we are stronger!

karlak · 7th September 2006, 14:32

Can you find out if they are now 'applying' this fix on the production line ?

TTDegs · 7th September 2006, 14:39

Rich - confused here!

Hadn't you already done that?

fantastic that you've got it back though - well, nearly back anyway

richierich · 7th September 2006, 15:01

Kind of, within 5 minutes of me deciding I go the email from Honda. I wanted to have Honda do whatever they felt necessary to get the HFT correctly working, didn't feel that my Heath Robinson affair was really up to much.

I will see if I can get anymore out of them. What would be nice though if someone from Honda could perhaps post on here, we know they are out there and watching.

WonkySights · 7th September 2006, 15:23

Could someone from Honda please contact myself to discuss commission........

Come to think of it, I'll settle for a set of Storm Alloys.

TTDegs · 7th September 2006, 16:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by richierich

Kind of, within 5 minutes of me deciding I go the email from Honda. I wanted to have Honda do whatever they felt necessary to get the HFT correctly working, didn't feel that my Heath Robinson affair was really up to much.

I will see if I can get anymore out of them. What would be nice though if someone from Honda could perhaps post on here, we know they are out there and watching.

Good idea*, and yes indeed - in that order

* with NO reflection on your Heath Robinson abilities intended!

rmh999 · 7th September 2006, 16:57

Damn someone should have called the patent office.....now that would be funny

present them with a bill for fixing your car....

Maybe my sense of humour needs adjusting....

Rob

richierich · 7th September 2006, 17:31

With the collective nouse (sp?) in this forum and I would imagine the need for a inexpensive fix it was always likely to be similar to one of the many options herein. My money was actually on a completely different microphone stuck on the outside of the central plastic thing, but that would have ruined the look.

TTDegs · 7th September 2006, 19:09

Nous \Nous\, n. [NL., fr. Gr. ? mind.]

Intellect; understanding; talent; -- used humorously.

Source: Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913)

Nous \Nous\, n. [NL., fr. Gr. ? mind.]

(Philos.) The reason; the highest intellect; God regarded as the World Reason.

Source: Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913)

richierich · 8th September 2006, 08:48

Only further information I have found out is that no more vehicles will be returned to Honda for the fix, a bulletin will be circulated to dealers advising of what is involved. Nothing re the production line vehicles, I can't imagine they will leave them as they are.

CivPilot · 8th September 2006, 10:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by WonkySights

Could someone from Honda please contact myself to discuss commission........

Come to think of it, I'll settle for a set of Storm Alloys.

I guess that's 2 wheels each then as I was the first person to come up with the idea to close the gap between mike and cover eliminating background noise from the roof space.

I did this on 31st July before you did your super quick mod on 21st August :P

Ps. Come on guys, there's a set of Storm Alloys on the line here!!

richierich · 8th September 2006, 13:29

Sorry CivPilot, but Wonky did a drawing!

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6th September 2006, 19:18	#61 (permalink)
DUNCAN Supporter Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 7th June 2006 Location: tameside Posts: 316 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	be better for honda to pay some one to drive the new car for 4 to 8 weeks before they let it out ,.all fixs could be done befor thay let any more out.

6th September 2006, 20:11	#62 (permalink)
richierich Smell My Cheese! Rocketship door handle Join Date: 17th May 2006 Location: Bicester, Oxfordshire Posts: 1,843 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Yeah I was a little surprised as the reason for the delay in getting it in was the testing they were doing on a couple of techies Civics. As I said before though I am pretty certain the biggest delay is purely transport related. And anyway (whatever others may say) I am genuinely pleased that Honda have offered to do this for me, it seems unprecedented to date as far as I have ever experienced for what is in effect a non mechanical problem. It has taken its time, but I wish it to be known that I am pleased, I just want it back, I miss my little car. Its only the second time we have been apart, the first time was when the dealer had a go at the HFT amongst other things. So in response to some quarters who suggested you don't ring Panasonic when your DVD player goes up the spout, the dealer I got it from have had their go, and they said nothing was wrong, and to be fair to them, functionally it works, but not very well. I believe I have gone about things the right way, and even the Lease Company I got the car from are happy with the way things are being done, they don't want to get involved almost, unless I hit a brick wall.

7th September 2006, 13:47	#63 (permalink)
richierich Smell My Cheese! Rocketship door handle Join Date: 17th May 2006 Location: Bicester, Oxfordshire Posts: 1,843 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I have news on the fix from Honda, got the email just a few moments ago. So any guesses?? I will post the answer soon.

7th September 2006, 13:49	#64 (permalink)
elfa7 Supporter Rocketship door handle Join Date: 8th May 2006 Location: Cheshire Posts: 1,700 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	They are keeping your car for another two weeks.

7th September 2006, 13:57	#65 (permalink)
richierich Smell My Cheese! Rocketship door handle Join Date: 17th May 2006 Location: Bicester, Oxfordshire Posts: 1,843 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	No its coming home on Monday.

7th September 2006, 13:59	#66 (permalink)
elfa7 Supporter Rocketship door handle Join Date: 8th May 2006 Location: Cheshire Posts: 1,700 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Have they told you what they've done to improve things ?.

7th September 2006, 14:02	#68 (permalink)
richierich Smell My Cheese! Rocketship door handle Join Date: 17th May 2006 Location: Bicester, Oxfordshire Posts: 1,843 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Exact scope of fix to follow shortly, lets build an air of anticipation, and I need some more Muffins & Marmite.

7th September 2006, 14:09	#69 (permalink)
richierich Smell My Cheese! Rocketship door handle Join Date: 17th May 2006 Location: Bicester, Oxfordshire Posts: 1,843 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Well, lets put you out of your misery. A big round of applause to WonkySights who correctly predicted the fix. http://www.civinfo.com/forum/modify-...nce-vt849.html Yes thats right they have eliminated the airgap between the microphone and the grille cover by lowering the microphone assembly slightly. It sounds better in their words. I guess a thank you to Honda is also due, its taken its time in coming and perhaps some of the ideas may have been around in one form or another prior to the fix, but at least we have success now. Role on the 18th, get the dampers done and the bumper and I will gladly shout from the roof tops I have a fantastic car, its not just going to be great anymore. Thanks to everyone on here, I am sure together we are stronger!

7th September 2006, 14:32	#70 (permalink)
karlak Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 3rd June 2006 Posts: 432 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Can you find out if they are now 'applying' this fix on the production line ?

7th September 2006, 14:39	#71 (permalink)
TTDegs Super Moderator Civinfo master Join Date: 4th August 2006 Location: Cardiff Posts: 5,638 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Rich - confused here! Hadn't you already done that? fantastic that you've got it back though - well, nearly back anyway

7th September 2006, 15:01	#72 (permalink)
richierich Smell My Cheese! Rocketship door handle Join Date: 17th May 2006 Location: Bicester, Oxfordshire Posts: 1,843 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Kind of, within 5 minutes of me deciding I go the email from Honda. I wanted to have Honda do whatever they felt necessary to get the HFT correctly working, didn't feel that my Heath Robinson affair was really up to much. I will see if I can get anymore out of them. What would be nice though if someone from Honda could perhaps post on here, we know they are out there and watching.

7th September 2006, 15:23	#73 (permalink)
WonkySights Wheelnut Join Date: 3rd May 2006 Posts: 70 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Could someone from Honda please contact myself to discuss commission........ Come to think of it, I'll settle for a set of Storm Alloys.

7th September 2006, 16:57	#75 (permalink)
rmh999 Supporter Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 3rd August 2006 Location: Swindon, UK Posts: 153 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Damn someone should have called the patent office.....now that would be funny present them with a bill for fixing your car.... Maybe my sense of humour needs adjusting.... Rob

7th September 2006, 17:31	#76 (permalink)
richierich Smell My Cheese! Rocketship door handle Join Date: 17th May 2006 Location: Bicester, Oxfordshire Posts: 1,843 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	With the collective nouse (sp?) in this forum and I would imagine the need for a inexpensive fix it was always likely to be similar to one of the many options herein. My money was actually on a completely different microphone stuck on the outside of the central plastic thing, but that would have ruined the look.

7th September 2006, 19:09	#77 (permalink)
TTDegs Super Moderator Civinfo master Join Date: 4th August 2006 Location: Cardiff Posts: 5,638 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Nous \Nous\, n. [NL., fr. Gr. ? mind.] Intellect; understanding; talent; -- used humorously. Source: Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913) Nous \Nous\, n. [NL., fr. Gr. ? mind.] (Philos.) The reason; the highest intellect; God regarded as the World Reason. Source: Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913)

8th September 2006, 08:48	#78 (permalink)
richierich Smell My Cheese! Rocketship door handle Join Date: 17th May 2006 Location: Bicester, Oxfordshire Posts: 1,843 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Only further information I have found out is that no more vehicles will be returned to Honda for the fix, a bulletin will be circulated to dealers advising of what is involved. Nothing re the production line vehicles, I can't imagine they will leave them as they are.

8th September 2006, 13:29	#80 (permalink)
richierich Smell My Cheese! Rocketship door handle Join Date: 17th May 2006 Location: Bicester, Oxfordshire Posts: 1,843 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Sorry CivPilot, but Wonky did a drawing!