Phone Update on Hands Free Quality problem - Page 9

3rd Honda · 8th December 2006, 19:39

After doing the mod myself........the hft IS better - still not brilliant, but better.

The voice commands are still dreadful. Slow, inaccurate, and a complete waste of time and money. I have given up with them, especially as the standard controls are really very good and very well placed.

Honda would be better forgetting voice activation unless they can do MUCH better next time.

AubreyS · 8th December 2006, 22:11

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Originally Posted by 3rd Honda

After doing the mod myself........the hft IS better - still not brilliant, but better.

The voice commands are still dreadful. Slow, inaccurate, and a complete waste of time and money. I have given up with them, especially as the standard controls are really very good and very well placed.

Honda would be better forgetting voice activation unless they can do MUCH better next time.

I totally agree with you. I end up shouting at the damn thing and speaking so slowly to it I just lose my patience and give up. Its a good idea in theory, but in practice, a total waste of time.

DUNCAN · 10th December 2006, 12:44

how about a refund of honda.

Parky · 10th December 2006, 12:58

I'm happy with mine after the mod.

The only time the voice recognition does not work well is when I say the command incorrectly, which is therefore my fault.

Just make sure you are using the correct commands.

Ian

DUNCAN · 10th December 2006, 13:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Parky

I'm happy with mine after the mod.

The only time the voice recognition does not work well is when I say the command incorrectly, which is therefore my fault.

Just make sure you are using the correct commands.

Ian

is that a joke hi hi

Gweneira · 12th December 2006, 19:07

Just had my HFT mod - what an amazing difference. I don't have to shout any more. Voice commnds are recognised quickly. I am delighted. My friends and family are even more delighted as they don't have to listen to me speaking through a 'wind tunnel'

DUNCAN · 12th December 2006, 19:27

what did thay do ?

IWANTACIVIC · 21st December 2006, 03:37

hope they did a better job than they did on mine they made it worse voice commards were slow but good , phones was a bit quite was hard for the caller to hear you so your had to raise your voice , BUT NOW! i cant get a phone to put the sound thought the speakers so i cant judge the sound because there anit any

but the voice coomards are crap sometimes not even in the right lanuage

going back to honda after a few more blue touth phone tests

Gweneira · 29th December 2006, 23:25

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Originally Posted by DUNCAN

what did thay do ?

They just did the standard magic foam mod!

The dealers did say it doesn't always work but Honda make them do the foam mod first before doing more major work......luckily for me the foam seems to have done the trick....

Bog · 4th January 2007, 08:13

Last night I did the mod myself by placing 5mm of foam behind the mic thus pushing it flush with grill and reset the mic level in the diag. menu.

I highly recommend doing it, it takes less than 5 mins, simple to do and the results are amazing! The HFT and voice commands are now 200% better even at 70 mph.

alidaf · 18th January 2007, 12:21

Has anybody determined whether strong regional accents are to blame for the HFT not recognizing commands? I have a pretty mixed accent and its better for me than for my wife and kids that have strong Scouse accents. "what time is it?" translates as "fan speed 7" Lol. I'm getting my fix done on Monday.

Kremmen · 18th January 2007, 12:58

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I'm getting my fix done on Monday

You or the Civic ?

Mark Q · 18th January 2007, 13:39

[quote=Bog;39103]Last night I did the mod myself by placing 5mm of foam behind the mic thus pushing it flush with grill and reset the mic level in the diag. menu.

How do you change the mic level ?? i got into thge menu but could only exit it, and no amount of shouting caused any of the lights to illuminate.

Honda had my car for 2 hours, 1 hour, one day, 1 day, and 1 hour this morning to change main unit, which doesn't seem to have any affect other than loosing all my stored contacts - Doh !!!

Has anyone worked out how to use the HFT to call numbers in your mobiles directory/contact list rather than having to read out the number to the car ? The HFT seems to take possesion of my phone so i cant hold it and use it, but nothing comes out of the speakers.

Sconeboy · 19th January 2007, 10:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by alidaf

Has anybody determined whether strong regional accents are to blame for the HFT not recognizing commands? I have a pretty mixed accent and its better for me than for my wife and kids that have strong Scouse accents. "what time is it?" translates as "fan speed 7" Lol. I'm getting my fix done on Monday.

funny you should say that, I have no particular accent and there is a slight pause before it returns my commands however my other half is chinese and when she uses the voice activation its instant !
Now I am not saying the answer is to mimic a Chinese or asian accent, but maybe the closer the accent is to Japanese the better

jl02 · 19th January 2007, 15:38

Took our Ex to the dealer today for petrol cap and HFT to be fixed. Left it for an hour and on our return the petrol cap had been replaced but they said that Honda had only had a few complaints about the HFT and were working on a fix. I said that I had seen a lot of complaints on this forum and that I thought that Honda had a fix. His answer was that moving the mike was no good and he would contact us as soon as Honda had worked out a solution but emphasized again that Honda had not had many complaints!! I told him to have a look at this forum and see how many complaints had been posted here.

Parky · 20th January 2007, 13:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by jl02

Took our Ex to the dealer today for petrol cap and HFT to be fixed. Left it for an hour and on our return the petrol cap had been replaced but they said that Honda had only had a few complaints about the HFT and were working on a fix. I said that I had seen a lot of complaints on this forum and that I thought that Honda had a fix. His answer was that moving the mike was no good and he would contact us as soon as Honda had worked out a solution but emphasized again that Honda had not had many complaints!! I told him to have a look at this forum and see how many complaints had been posted here.

There is an official Honda fix for this and the dealer should know about it.

Call Honda Customer Services and tell them that the dealer is not applying the known fix. They should call the dealer and tell them the details, I did that and it worked for me.

Ian

rhodgreen · 20th January 2007, 13:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by jl02

Took our Ex to the dealer today for petrol cap and HFT to be fixed. Left it for an hour and on our return the petrol cap had been replaced but they said that Honda had only had a few complaints about the HFT and were working on a fix. I said that I had seen a lot of complaints on this forum and that I thought that Honda had a fix. His answer was that moving the mike was no good and he would contact us as soon as Honda had worked out a solution but emphasized again that Honda had not had many complaints!! I told him to have a look at this forum and see how many complaints had been posted here.

Alternatively, show them my post #137 on this thread - I've scanned in the official pages from Honda UK. Print them out and take them in and then let us know what their faces looked like!!

richierich · 20th January 2007, 13:48

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Originally Posted by rhodgreen

Alternatively, show them my post #137 on this thread - I've scanned in the official pages from Honda UK. Print them out and take them in and then let us know what their faces looked like!!

Thats a brilliant idea, good thinking Rhod.

jl02 · 20th January 2007, 14:00

Many thanks for the replies. I have printed off the service bulletin from Rhod's posting. Will take it to the dealer next week.

Ian

DUNCAN · 7th February 2007, 21:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by jl02

Many thanks for the replies. I have printed off the service bulletin from Rhod's posting. Will take it to the dealer next week.

Ian

how did you go on with the dealer

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8th December 2006, 19:39	#161 (permalink)
3rd Honda Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 24th July 2006 Location: Tewkesbury Posts: 372 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts iTrader: (0)	After doing the mod myself........the hft IS better - still not brilliant, but better. The voice commands are still dreadful. Slow, inaccurate, and a complete waste of time and money. I have given up with them, especially as the standard controls are really very good and very well placed. Honda would be better forgetting voice activation unless they can do MUCH better next time.

10th December 2006, 12:44	#163 (permalink)
DUNCAN Supporter Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 7th June 2006 Location: tameside Posts: 322 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	how about a refund of honda.

10th December 2006, 12:58	#164 (permalink)
Parky Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 4th July 2006 Posts: 304 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	I'm happy with mine after the mod. The only time the voice recognition does not work well is when I say the command incorrectly, which is therefore my fault. Just make sure you are using the correct commands. Ian

12th December 2006, 19:07	#166 (permalink)
Gweneira Happy civic owner Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 13th October 2006 Posts: 535 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Just had my HFT mod - what an amazing difference. I don't have to shout any more. Voice commnds are recognised quickly. I am delighted. My friends and family are even more delighted as they don't have to listen to me speaking through a 'wind tunnel'

12th December 2006, 19:27	#167 (permalink)
DUNCAN Supporter Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 7th June 2006 Location: tameside Posts: 322 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	what did thay do ?

21st December 2006, 03:37	#168 (permalink)
IWANTACIVIC Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 16th September 2006 Location: LINCS UK Posts: 658 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	hope they did a better job than they did on mine they made it worse voice commards were slow but good , phones was a bit quite was hard for the caller to hear you so your had to raise your voice , BUT NOW! i cant get a phone to put the sound thought the speakers so i cant judge the sound because there anit any but the voice coomards are crap sometimes not even in the right lanuage going back to honda after a few more blue touth phone tests

4th January 2007, 08:13	#170 (permalink)
Bog Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 5th October 2006 Location: Romford, Essex Posts: 895 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts iTrader: (0)	Last night I did the mod myself by placing 5mm of foam behind the mic thus pushing it flush with grill and reset the mic level in the diag. menu. I highly recommend doing it, it takes less than 5 mins, simple to do and the results are amazing! The HFT and voice commands are now 200% better even at 70 mph.

18th January 2007, 12:21	#171 (permalink)
alidaf Valve Cap Join Date: 9th January 2007 Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Has anybody determined whether strong regional accents are to blame for the HFT not recognizing commands? I have a pretty mixed accent and its better for me than for my wife and kids that have strong Scouse accents. "what time is it?" translates as "fan speed 7" Lol. I'm getting my fix done on Monday.

18th January 2007, 13:39	#173 (permalink)
Mark Q Valve Cap Join Date: 21st November 2006 Location: Just Behind you Posts: 31 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	[quote=Bog;39103]Last night I did the mod myself by placing 5mm of foam behind the mic thus pushing it flush with grill and reset the mic level in the diag. menu. How do you change the mic level ?? i got into thge menu but could only exit it, and no amount of shouting caused any of the lights to illuminate. Honda had my car for 2 hours, 1 hour, one day, 1 day, and 1 hour this morning to change main unit, which doesn't seem to have any affect other than loosing all my stored contacts - Doh !!! Has anyone worked out how to use the HFT to call numbers in your mobiles directory/contact list rather than having to read out the number to the car ? The HFT seems to take possesion of my phone so i cant hold it and use it, but nothing comes out of the speakers.

19th January 2007, 15:38	#175 (permalink)
jl02 Valve Cap Join Date: 13th November 2006 Posts: 7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Took our Ex to the dealer today for petrol cap and HFT to be fixed. Left it for an hour and on our return the petrol cap had been replaced but they said that Honda had only had a few complaints about the HFT and were working on a fix. I said that I had seen a lot of complaints on this forum and that I thought that Honda had a fix. His answer was that moving the mike was no good and he would contact us as soon as Honda had worked out a solution but emphasized again that Honda had not had many complaints!! I told him to have a look at this forum and see how many complaints had been posted here.

20th January 2007, 14:00	#179 (permalink)
jl02 Valve Cap Join Date: 13th November 2006 Posts: 7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Many thanks for the replies. I have printed off the service bulletin from Rhod's posting. Will take it to the dealer next week. Ian