Satnav Sat Nav and Minor Roads

For Mash Get Smash · 31st July 2007, 19:29

Maybe I'm too used to my previous AA Sat Nav, which was on a Pocket PC but I can't seem to configure the SN in the Honda correctly.

It rarely seems to choose minor roads even if this is what I would call the obvious option.

If I go from my parents house to my house it asks me to turn right - go 300 yards turn left go 50 yards turn left go 300 yards. Yep you guessed it - I could go straight on for 50 yards. As far as I can tell the road in question has been around for over 20 years.

But there's plenty of other times I've had the SN on out of curiousity and picked the "short" route to get nothing of the sort.

Is this a normal quirk that I'll need to learn to live with please ?

It comes to something when that's the ONLY fault I can find with the car.

cylon2007 · 31st July 2007, 19:42

You use the satnav when you know where you are going ???

For Mash Get Smash · 31st July 2007, 19:56

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Originally Posted by cylon2007

You use the satnav when you know where you are going ???

Purely for test purposes dear boy. If it works correctly locally it'll work correctly when I really need it.

Foggy69 · 31st July 2007, 20:10

The routing given by the satnav seems to be a black art.

I sometimes use the satnav on journey's that I know just in case there is a 'Traffic Alert'.
On different days it sometimes gives different routes, mostly along the main road, which is the quickest. But sometimes it takes me along country lanes or residential back streets.

The Subaru Legacy I had before the Civic had a built-in satnav and used the Navteq maps as well and was just as odd.
It always seems to get you there, but sometimes not on the type of route you request

tomcat · 31st July 2007, 20:59

I had slightly the opposite today. The Sat Nav decided to send me through the North Yorks National Park on my way there (which were minor roads, tractors and all that), but on the way back sent me along main roads, which turned out to be quicker.

TTDegs · 31st July 2007, 22:51

mine quite often takes me back home on a different route to the way it took me - although at start up the total time to travel is reported as being much the same...

There was someone on here waaaaaaay back (and I've had it happen to me once too) who was diverted off a motorway, onto the roundabout, and back onto the motorway again (ie at the same junction), rather than just stay on the motorway and drive underneath the roundabout.

Very wierd, and worth keeping half an eye on it if it starts to send you somewhere that doesn't 'feel' quite right

The good news is that in the 22K+ miles I've had the Civ, of which probably 11K+ have been on works mileage to places I've never been before, it has always got me there

Kremmen · 1st August 2007, 06:26

You will have to live with it

I have the same issue where a 'shortest' journey with a TomTom is accurate but the 'built in' takes me well out of the way and what I would also consider to be illogical.

My journey to the in-laws is 104 miles on the clock. TomTom estimates 102 miles. Civic estimates 117 miles on a different route as being the shortest!

In my case we are not talking minor roads as I only use motorways or A roads.

Once I am just over half way on 'my' route the penny drops and it recalculates, getting it right.

Again, why use it if I know the way?...........the TMC warnings may come in useful.

AubreyS · 1st August 2007, 08:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by For Mash Get Smash

Maybe I'm too used to my previous AA Sat Nav, which was on a Pocket PC but I can't seem to configure the SN in the Honda correctly.

It rarely seems to choose minor roads even if this is what I would call the obvious option.

If I go from my parents house to my house it asks me to turn right - go 300 yards turn left go 50 yards turn left go 300 yards. Yep you guessed it - I could go straight on for 50 yards. As far as I can tell the road in question has been around for over 20 years.

But there's plenty of other times I've had the SN on out of curiousity and picked the "short" route to get nothing of the sort.

Is this a normal quirk that I'll need to learn to live with please ?

It comes to something when that's the ONLY fault I can find with the car.

As in other posts I think many have agreed that the Civic sat nav is not all that. I use the TomTom 510 for work and have also compared it to the Civic SN and I think that the TomTom wins hands down every time.

I've had the DVD replaced and no difference at all.

By the way, where in deepest SE Essex are you? I'm in Rayleigh.

allan40alt · 1st August 2007, 08:41

I always choose the 'Calculate 5 Routes' option. They can vary from 30 miles and 80 miles to the same destination.

For Mash Get Smash · 1st August 2007, 14:35

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Originally Posted by AubreyS

By the way, where in deepest SE Essex are you? I'm in Rayleigh.

Not far from you then, I'm in Eastwood, reasonably close to the Honda dealership. From 13th August you'll be able to see my beauty sitting in one of the 'exclusive' parking bays at the Station

AubreyS · 1st August 2007, 14:46

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Originally Posted by For Mash Get Smash

Not far from you then, I'm in Eastwood, reasonably close to the Honda dealership. From 13th August you'll be able to see my beauty sitting in one of the 'exclusive' parking bays at the Station

The Honda dealership near to you is where I bought my car from. Good luck with the new motor.

czechplastik · 1st August 2007, 18:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by For Mash Get Smash

Purely for test purposes dear boy. If it works correctly locally it'll work correctly when I really need it.

How would you know if it was giving you the best route if you don't know where you're going anyway?

It hardly matters as long as it gets you there.

For Mash Get Smash · 1st August 2007, 21:50

The point is Czech, that if I have paid £1000+ for extra gadgets + features I'd quite like them to work properly. Having run with an AA handheld alternative including the best possible traffic re-routing and fully up to date speed cameras (and 3d - though that is a gimic) I've seen what SNs are capable of.

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For Mash Get Smash Valve Cap Join Date: 19th July 2007 Location: Deepest SE Essex Posts: 21 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Sat Nav and Minor Roads Maybe I'm too used to my previous AA Sat Nav, which was on a Pocket PC but I can't seem to configure the SN in the Honda correctly. It rarely seems to choose minor roads even if this is what I would call the obvious option. If I go from my parents house to my house it asks me to turn right - go 300 yards turn left go 50 yards turn left go 300 yards. Yep you guessed it - I could go straight on for 50 yards. As far as I can tell the road in question has been around for over 20 years. But there's plenty of other times I've had the SN on out of curiousity and picked the "short" route to get nothing of the sort. Is this a normal quirk that I'll need to learn to live with please ? It comes to something when that's the ONLY fault I can find with the car.

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cylon2007 Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 14th April 2007 Location: South Manchester/North Cheshire Posts: 469 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	You use the satnav when you know where you are going ???

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Foggy69 Vivid Blue Rocks!!! Rocketship door handle Join Date: 5th December 2006 Location: Westerham Posts: 1,061 Thanks: 2 Thanked 7 Times in 6 Posts	The routing given by the satnav seems to be a black art. I sometimes use the satnav on journey's that I know just in case there is a 'Traffic Alert'. On different days it sometimes gives different routes, mostly along the main road, which is the quickest. But sometimes it takes me along country lanes or residential back streets. The Subaru Legacy I had before the Civic had a built-in satnav and used the Navteq maps as well and was just as odd. It always seems to get you there, but sometimes not on the type of route you request

31st July 2007, 20:59	#5 (permalink)
tomcat Valve Cap Join Date: 5th February 2007 Posts: 36 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I had slightly the opposite today. The Sat Nav decided to send me through the North Yorks National Park on my way there (which were minor roads, tractors and all that), but on the way back sent me along main roads, which turned out to be quicker.

31st July 2007, 22:51	#6 (permalink)
TTDegs Super Moderator Civinfo master Join Date: 4th August 2006 Location: Cardiff Posts: 5,638 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	mine quite often takes me back home on a different route to the way it took me - although at start up the total time to travel is reported as being much the same... There was someone on here waaaaaaay back (and I've had it happen to me once too) who was diverted off a motorway, onto the roundabout, and back onto the motorway again (ie at the same junction), rather than just stay on the motorway and drive underneath the roundabout. Very wierd, and worth keeping half an eye on it if it starts to send you somewhere that doesn't 'feel' quite right The good news is that in the 22K+ miles I've had the Civ, of which probably 11K+ have been on works mileage to places I've never been before, it has always got me there

1st August 2007, 06:26	#7 (permalink)
Kremmen Krem de la Krem Civinfo guru Join Date: 7th January 2007 Location: West London Posts: 2,577 Thanks: 7 Thanked 11 Times in 11 Posts	You will have to live with it I have the same issue where a 'shortest' journey with a TomTom is accurate but the 'built in' takes me well out of the way and what I would also consider to be illogical. My journey to the in-laws is 104 miles on the clock. TomTom estimates 102 miles. Civic estimates 117 miles on a different route as being the shortest! In my case we are not talking minor roads as I only use motorways or A roads. Once I am just over half way on 'my' route the penny drops and it recalculates, getting it right. Again, why use it if I know the way?...........the TMC warnings may come in useful.

1st August 2007, 08:41	#9 (permalink)
allan40alt Supporter Civinfo guru Join Date: 6th August 2006 Location: Rugby, Warwickshire. Posts: 2,227 Thanks: 12 Thanked 33 Times in 31 Posts	I always choose the 'Calculate 5 Routes' option. They can vary from 30 miles and 80 miles to the same destination.

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For Mash Get Smash Valve Cap Join Date: 19th July 2007 Location: Deepest SE Essex Posts: 21 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	The point is Czech, that if I have paid £1000+ for extra gadgets + features I'd quite like them to work properly. Having run with an AA handheld alternative including the best possible traffic re-routing and fully up to date speed cameras (and 3d - though that is a gimic) I've seen what SNs are capable of.