Satnav sat nav - toll roads

[Bungle]

Oh I definately agree, it is far nicer to have a built in one, for many reasons.

What I was getting at was the system costs a lot of money, and I would expect it to out-perform a £200 - £500 portable system in every way.

And I find my little display absolutely fine for displaying MP3 track names!

[pjelsworth]

Originally Posted by Bungle

Oh I definately agree, it is far nicer to have a built in one, for many reasons.

What I was getting at was the system costs a lot of money, and I would expect it to out-perform a £200 - £500 portable system in every way.

And I find my little display absolutely fine for displaying MP3 track names!

Can't argue with that

[TTDegs]

for me, the built in Honda one wins hands down

OK, I never got past TomTom v3 (I think, the one prior to current), and some of the niggles (lack of post code input) were sorted with the latest version.

BUT - for me, the hassle of having to route extra wires all over the place, still ending up with a p'ugly PDA bracket and advertising to the world that there may be something worth nicking in my glovebox are far outweighed by the Honda version not knowing where the nearest pub / grub is


So far, the Honda version has been fine.

Couple of slightly odd moments, such as:

When in convoy up to Nottingham last week, using the 'fastest route' method, the car in front (a work collegue, not a random stranger!) turned left, following his sat nav instructions.
Mine said to go straight on.

Staying in convoy, I turned left, it recalculated, and knocked 2 mins off the arrival time...

BUT - the new route took us through the middle of a town, and by the time we had hit 3 red lights in a row (as it were), arrival time was later than the original route - perhaps it was being REALLY clever!



All that said - would I pay extra for it if it wasn't std fit in the EX along with everything else, or would I have stuck with an already bought and paid for PDA solution?

Probably would have stuck with my PDA.

But I'm glad I didn't

[Maldax]

Originally Posted by TTDegs

BUT - the new route took us through the middle of a town, and by the time we had hit 3 red lights in a row (as it were), arrival time was later than the original route - perhaps it was being REALLY clever!

I think it is! a lot of the roads have been driven and scored so it know there were traffic lights etc.

Most of the 'little' ones just weight the journy on the type of junctions you hit

[foddy]

Originally Posted by Bungle

What I was getting at was the system costs a lot of money, and I would expect it to out-perform a £200 - £500 portable system in every way.

I find the Honda system keeps a GPS lock much better than Tomtom and, because of the way it's integrated with the car, it has a better idea of where you are when you do lose the signal.

I also find the voice commands much better - being able to see which road you're on is an added bonus, as is the map zooming. I also find the layout easier to read - but that may be more down to screen size/resolution.

I've used Tomtom (v4) for a long time, and apart from it going "boing" when I'm nearing a speed camera, I won't miss it a bit.

[WoolyCiv]

Originally Posted by foddy

I find the Honda system keeps a GPS lock much better than Tomtom and, because of the way it's integrated with the car, it has a better idea of where you are when you do lose the signal.

I also find the voice commands much better - being able to see which road you're on is an added bonus, as is the map zooming. I also find the layout easier to read - but that may be more down to screen size/resolution.

I've used Tomtom (v4) for a long time, and apart from it going "boing" when I'm nearing a speed camera, I won't miss it a bit.

Full agreement here and also with TT's comments.

[Skinhead]

Does anyone know if there is a review somewhere of the latest version? A proper review that covers such things as toll roads, customising the display etc.

[karlak]

Originally Posted by Skinhead

Does anyone know if there is a review somewhere of the latest version? A proper review that covers such things as toll roads, customising the display etc.

Not sure that this version is being 'placed' into newly registered cars yet? Anyon with a new'ish EX care to check ?

[Knat]

Originally Posted by CivPilot

One of the navigation routing options is "Minimise Toll roads" is it not? So that for me would mean yes, toll roads are included.

Look at the bottom route on Pottsey's image......
satnaverror.jpg

Stupid question but how do you get the above menu (along with it showing the different routes) to appear ? I've had a play with mine but can't find this option anywhere

[Skinhead]

What version? What am I comparing against?

My Civic is nearly three weeks old, so it's fairly newish.

[foddy]

Originally Posted by karlak

Not sure that this version is being 'placed' into newly registered cars yet? Anyon with a new'ish EX care to check ?

I can't remember the version off the top of my head, but the map data was dated something like November 2005. So, as of 19th September, it was still the old disk.

[allan40alt]

After you put in the address the screen gives you several choices, one of which is 'Calc. 5 Routes' (page 42 in the Nav hand book). It then moves onto the screen with the coloured choices and you select the one you want.

If you have already selected a route you can press the 'Go Back/Cancel' button on the facia (bottom left) and you get the 'Change Route' screen with several choices. The 2nd selection is 'Change Routing Method'. This takes you to the 'Choose Routing Method' screen and you select from 5 routing choices; one of which is 'Minimise Toll Roads' (page 61 in the Nav hand book). Good luck.

[WoolyCiv]

Originally Posted by foddy

I can't remember the version off the top of my head, but the map data was dated something like November 2005. So, as of 19th September, it was still the old disk.

My DVD is marked as follows: -

Europe 2005-2006
APN2-45103 Ver.3.02
1993-2004 NAVTEQ B.V.
2006 Honda Motor Co
2006 ALPINE ELECTRONICS
Trafficmaster V-Traffic
TMC Traffic Message Channel
NAVTEQ ON BOARD

[Maldax]

Went to Cardiff on the weekend. Didn't tell me the Severn Bridge was a toll bridge!!! Came as a shock

[TTDegs]

Originally Posted by Maldax

Went to Cardiff on the weekend. Didn't tell me the Severn Bridge was a toll bridge!!! Came as a shock

but the border patrols and sniffer dogs didn't ?


PS - huge apols, didn't think at first
Not that you wouldn't be, but hope you were very careful aproaching the toll booths - they regularily put a camera van on the 50mph approach zone.
Which is a good thing if you've ever seen 3 lanes of 70mph traffic suddenly diving for the 'shortest' of about 20 queues to pay...
Whilst at the same time fumbling on the floor for the 10p they dropped...
And then noticing that the shortest lane is shortest becuase it's the pre-paid TAG one...

Scary suff!