Clutch clutch slipping 24000miles??? is it ok?

[gray52]

mines a diesel, would be interested to know it the accord diesel suffers with clutch slip and if it even uses the same clutch?? seams honda my have a bad batch or we will all be affected. i cannot see honda owning up to this as it would cost them a fortune to sort out.

[madasadad]

Any luck with the clutch being replaced under warranty? Mine goes in on Monday for an initial inspection with the dealer. Still slipping at 24000miles

[Soichiro]

Surely there is only one cause for a slipping clutch; lack of friction between the clutch plates.

This can be caused by
1; No friction lining left, worn away by wheel spin starts and riding the clutch on hills
2; Distortion of clutch plates by excessive heat from to much clutch riding.
3; Loss of spring force in the pressure plate (manfacturing defect)
4; Contamination of clutch by engine or hydraulic oil (leak from engine, gearbox or clutch hydraulics)
5; Failure of the release mech, preventing full engagment (cylinder sticking, blocked/crimped pipe, stuck lever) .
6; Failure of the adjustment mech, as the Civic clutch is hydraulic this should not happen.
7; Driven plate sticking in gearbox splines (due to rust, build up of friction material dust lack of grease on assembly).

Only the first 2 points caused by abusive driving should not be covered under warranty, but once the clutch starts sliping the lining will wear away anyway and heat damage may occur, making it look like the driver's fault!

Make sure the cause of the slipping is fully investigated before you take the hit on the repair costs. At anything less than 50,000 miles I would expect some goodwill gesture from Honda.

If you have been chipped and Honda find out I don't think they would help out then.

[Jim bo]

Just a note I have found that if you rest you foot to high up on the clutch foot rest it is possible to hold the clutch pedal down
riding the clutch. This could happen by accident thinking your
foot if off the clutch pedal leading to premature wear.

[civicfan]

Originally Posted by Soichiro

Surely there is only one cause for a slipping clutch; lack of friction between the clutch plates.

This can be caused by
1; No friction lining left, worn away by wheel spin starts and riding the clutch on hills
2; Distortion of clutch plates by excessive heat from to much clutch riding.
3; Loss of spring force in the pressure plate (manfacturing defect)
4; Contamination of clutch by engine or hydraulic oil (leak from engine, gearbox or clutch hydraulics)
5; Failure of the release mech, preventing full engagment (cylinder sticking, blocked/crimped pipe, stuck lever) .
6; Failure of the adjustment mech, as the Civic clutch is hydraulic this should not happen.
7; Driven plate sticking in gearbox splines (due to rust, build up of friction material dust lack of grease on assembly).

Only the first 2 points caused by abusive driving should not be covered under warranty, but once the clutch starts sliping the lining will wear away anyway and heat damage may occur, making it look like the driver's fault!

Make sure the cause of the slipping is fully investigated before you take the hit on the repair costs. At anything less than 50,000 miles I would expect some goodwill gesture from Honda.

If you have been chipped and Honda find out I don't think they would help out then.

8. some cr@ppy clutch assembly in China?

[Soichiro]

Ah! of course,forgot that one

[Karl]

Hi - I'm new to the forum.

The reason I joined was because of the clutch problem described throughout this thread and anoher I'll eventually look up.

I've got a late 2005 civic diesel sport with 19k miles on it. I generally drive like an old lady. My engine was jumping up the revs at 2250 especially when I accelerated in third. Took it to the nearest Honda dealership (part of a chain where I bought it from) they said "you've been riding the clutch" Ha ha - 19k miles. So I tell them that the 10 yr old volvo with 150k miles I traded in had been driven since new in on pretty much the same route never had a clutch problem. Tough, its a new clutch £600 please!

Took it back to the dealership where I bought it (15 miles away). They took me out for a drive then took it in there and then. Two hours later and the mechanic tell me its a wheel that the cruise control uses that was over tightend. Common with cruise control apparently - just loosen it off and no more problems.

Originally Posted by gprand

Hello my car is a diesel and i have cruise control. I don't know how this is going to end , i am scared i will have to pay the bill!!

Nice I say, only no cruise control.

Aaah well, the wheel is still there - besides, third gear has massive torque and the clutch slips as a safety precaution - anyway its fixed. Have a nice day and remember to live the dream.

Hmmm - ok.

I take off to the meeting I'm late for and suprise! The clutch slips at 2750.

Phone the head of service. Car goes in for a day. When they collect me they tell me that they had the gearbox out got in touch with Honda UK and replaced the clutch under instruction. Must have been a fault so its on Honda. Have a nice day and remember you're living the dream.

Hey thats great, I'll tell all the people I told not to buy a Honda I was wrong and the service gives you a warm feeling all over.

That was Friday - driving in this moring the gear selection feels pretty notchy, but I'm hoping that the clutch will wear in and all will be fine.

Goes to prove that the level of support depends on the staff at the outlet you go to. N.B. I was polite at all times.

[gprand]

My dealer checked the clutch and they say it's ok. BUT the clutch pump , wich i signalled to be noisy , seems to have a problem in a cylinder, so they are going to replace it under warranty with a new one , modified recently and installed on the late 2007 civic models.
This pump might have caused the problem , i will see if everything goes right and let you know!

Ciao
Giorgio

[civicsport2.2cdti]

my clutch is also slipping.
Hope its waranty because i've only got 30000km.

Honda is not doing well on that point!!

[tezwar]

Hi all, have been monitoring clutch slipping problem on here. I have the same problem albeit intermitent and have just been out on a road test with a technician from my local Honda in Gloucester and sods law in would not do it. They have not heard of this problem before either ?? It only seems to happen sometimes and I guess because i do not drive the car hard very much it would not happen very much anyway. It only seems to slip in 3rd & 4th and between 2000 & 2500 rpm and when accelerating hard as posted on here by several of you. Has anyone else had this problem? Anyone around the Glos area?? Thanks.

[3rd Honda]

Originally Posted by tezwar

Anyone around the Glos area?? Thanks.

Yes, I am near North Glos, near Tewkesbury

[tezwar]

Have you had any probs with clutch slipping or know someone around the Glos area that has ???

[3rd Honda]

No - no clutch probs.

Fair few others (documented elsewhere in these pages) such as software false error messages, rear shocks, front struts, exhaust rattles/knocks, poor radio, poor handsfree, crap voice control etc.

However to date had no engine, gearbox, clutch, or battery problems

[tezwar]

I have been Luckily trouble free until now, 46500 miles down the road, apart from the hands free, but dealer sorted that out. But bit worried about this intermitant slipping clutch. Picked up car today and they say they dont know whats wrong with it and it would not do it on the road test, typical !!
Anyway trying to see if anyone else around glos area has had the same problem, but at the minute just me !!

[Bog]

Could juddering when pulling away be a symptom of a worn clutch or something else, my Civic has done 16000 miles.

Any ideas anyone?

[gray52]

i get this now and then, but mainly when its cold. if you let it move off with just clutch control and no revs it can judder (sometimes) but give it some revs and all is ok. just over 10k now. if it was faulty you would get the juddering all the time, do you have this all the time?

[Bog]

Originally Posted by gray52

if it was faulty you would get the juddering all the time, do you have this all the time?

No not all the time, but it does seem to be more frequent and it's bl**dy annoying!

[Honda Tech]

hi guys,

if your clutch is slipping on your diesel civics/crv's then it is warranty. i have changed a few clutches for this reason and it is down to a faulty duel mass fly wheel. WARRANTY. i have also changed one due to oil contamination from a leaking rear main oil seal...ALSO WARRANTY.
dont take no for an answer from your dealers.

good luck guys

[Dimplyred]

Originally Posted by Honda Tech

hi guys,

if your clutch is slipping on your diesel civics/crv's then it is warranty. i have changed a few clutches for this reason and it is down to a faulty duel mass fly wheel. WARRANTY. i have also changed one due to oil contamination from a leaking rear main oil seal...ALSO WARRANTY.
dont take no for an answer from your dealers.

good luck guys

What an invaluable member of Civinfo you are going to be...

Thanks for the info.

[tezwar]

Yeah, here here. Thanks for for the heads up. It certainly takes a weight off my mind.