Clutch clutch slipping 24000miles??? is it ok? - Page 5

kissifer1972 · 27th May 2008, 23:43

Mine was in at the dealers for service today and they have reported that the clutch is fine. This despite them not having taken the car for a decent road test. It only slips when all the family are in and I am accelelrating hard up a hill. But surely these are the 1st signs?
The fluid in the clutch reservoir is very dark, is this normal? I would have thought this is a sign that there is something wrong as the brake fluid, which does far more work and is exposed to higher temperatures, is not discoloured at all.
Can anyone shed any light on this?
Thanks
Chris

Dimplyred · 28th May 2008, 00:10

You need to take out one of their technicians and demonstrate the problem. You are the one with the experience of the circumstances under which it slips.

kissifer1972 · 28th May 2008, 00:32

Am a bit annoyed with the dealers right now, gave them a list of faults and I really don't think they have investigated any of them properly.

I agree I need to replicate the problem in front of them, then they have to acknowledge it and there is a very steep hill near them to demonstrate on. Also have a problem with the seatbelt pinning me to my seat and not releasing it's ratchet. This is very intermittent, but unfortunately regular enough. Very difficult to replicate for them and they just say seatbelt is fine coz it wouldn't do it for them.

Chris

cruncher · 12th June 2008, 12:56

Had the car serviced they adjusted the cruise control post as described elsewhere and they seem to have fixed the problem also had the handbrake recall/fuel cap/blue tooth microphone mods and new rear shocks all under warranty. They also updated the software for the display, messages like low fuel etc.

kissifer1972 · 14th June 2008, 23:27

Spoke to the dealers on friday. The car is going in for a week, next friday. They are going to take the gearbox out and examine the clutch.

They said there has been a problem with the clutch wearing abnormally on the diesel Civ, as reported ealsewhere here. They suspect mine may have this problem and, if so, it will be sorted.

Will let you know what the outcome is.

Alzyonline · 23rd June 2008, 16:56

Have put another 5000 miles on the car since it stopped slipping after being driven hard for a few hours and have not had any sign of the clutch slipping.

tezwar · 23rd June 2008, 17:03

Put about 10k on mine since it stopped. Also no probs, hope it stays that way.

Pottsy · 3rd July 2008, 17:02

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Tomthumb · 15th July 2008, 07:34

I have to join the list of slipping clutches.

42000 miles 2 years old and suddenly my clutch is slipping. Same as the others about 2600 rpm in 3rd, 4th and 5th gears.

Will go see the dealer and post results on here.

gprand · 15th July 2008, 07:55

Hello,
I finally solved the problem , wich was not the clutch itself , but the clutch pump , wich occasionally would not detach 100% and caused slipping. There was also a noise in the pedal (a "click") and the mechanic at honda service said it was a o-ring (or similar) wich broke and caused the clutch pump not to return 100% back, therefore the slipping.
The clutch pump was changed under warranty becouse it's not a part listed in those subjected to consumption (like battery , tires and clutch disks)
I don't know if this might be of help to you , but i wanted to let you know
Ciao
Giorgio

Tomthumb · 15th July 2008, 15:42

I have had a clicking in the clutch pedal that has now stopped.

In fact it stopped about the same time the clutch started slipping/

cruncher · 16th July 2008, 21:30

the micro switch was adjusted which improved it 98 per cent but it still gives a slight slip dealer is going to replace clutch monday under warranty apparently the CRV suffers from this problem.

Tomthumb · 25th July 2008, 16:34

Just back from the dealer, they reproduced the click in the pedal and have said its the master cylinder. New one on order from Honda under warrenty no problems.

The clutch didnt slip for them, mind you it hasnt slipped for me since I posted here it has just been clicking all the time.

Clover Leaf Honda Ascott, been a good dealer so far and sorting this fault out without any hassel.

cruncher · 25th July 2008, 19:49

Had the clutch replaced under warranty apparently in both the civic and crv in manufacturing the microswitch was fitted incorrectly. in some cases the switch refitting cures the problem but in some due to the slipping the clutch plate bows due to excessive heat and a tech bulletin points this out. I hope that this is finally fixed. I am going to the pyrenees soon that should give the clutch a good workout.

Soichiro · 3rd August 2008, 09:13

The final straw for my 56 plate SE was the clutch slipping.
Started at around 28K and would slip in third as you hit 1500 rpm (max torque).
At it's worst it was impossible to safely accelerate on to a motorway as the road speed wouldn't increase, just the revs.
I had already had a new master cylinder to cure "the click" and there was, according to the dealer, free play on the release rod.
The bit that caused most stress was that the dealer refused to confirm that the cost of the clutch change would be covered until the car was stripped, clutch inspected and it was confirmed that I hadn't been drag racing!
If Honda had decided my driving had caused the failure, I would have been billed for the whole strip down, new clutch and re assembly costs!
This caused a little tiny wenie bit of friction between the dealer and myself......
Anyway clutch was changed car returned (took a week not 3 days as quoted) and it drove fine, no stiff gears, no slip, no dents, no grease on anything.
Honda extended warranty for 2 more years.
I don 't know what caused the slipping, I don't think Honda know. Maybe the clutch is a bit under sized for the engine output.
What I do know is that if you slipped the clutch at full power and drove the car hard, the slipping got better.
Perhaps the clutch linings get polished with smooth driving and need "roughing up" to work properly.
As soon as car was fixed I changed it for a new ES, so someone has a SE with all the usual problems and quite a few others already fixed...Good luck

Charley Farley · 6th August 2008, 19:19

Hi All

Well I can now join the ranks of the clutch slipping brigade. I've just come back from Cornwall with 4 up and full boot of luggage. It just didn't like hills at all. I had a chat with my mechanic friend and he said it was definately the clutch. Took it into Johnsons of Beaconsfield who drove the car and could not replicate the problem. So I guess I'll have to continue to monitor the problem so see if it returns. On another note my dashboard is rattling like mad, so they have agreed to fix under warranty at next service.

Soichiro · 6th August 2008, 21:53

Hi Charley,
Mine was the same, hit 2000 rpm, slip like mad. Until the dealer was with me in the car, then good as gold.
If I drove mine very smoothly the clutch slip would return after a few hundred miles, but if you slipped the clutch by pressing the pedal whilst travelling at around 50-60 in fourth or fifth until the revs started to soar then let the pedal go sharply a couple of times it would cure it for some time.
A good way to make it slip was third gear (empty road) left foot brake; right foot acclerator and hold the car back on the brakes while getting up to full power!
Most dangerous I know and not the best way to demonstrate to the dealer!
I had to take a day off work, drive around until it was slipping good then whizz straight to the dealer.
Still had a load of hassle to get it fixed.
I have only done 5000k in my new 08 Civic so it's a bit early to till if I'm going to have to birch it John Cleese style in 25k miles!

Charley Farley · 6th August 2008, 23:15

Hi Soichiro

Mines Slipping at between 2500 - 3000rpm and doesn't do it very often. It tends to do it after I driven slowly for while then suddenly ask for more power. Because its so intermittent I don't think I going to replicate it easily for quite a while. Its just so annoying because you its wrong but you can't convince the dealer. I'm begining to wonder how many more things are going to go wrong. The dealer said today that the dashboard has a myraid of creaks and squeaks due to a badly assembled piece of foam. Johnson's of Beaconsfield have been extremly helpful but obviously will not take any action until slipping manifests itself again. It looks like I'm going to have to prepare myself for the long haul.

Force · 12th August 2008, 10:07

Hi guys

I'm having the same problem with my 2.2 Executive.
It's from april 2006 and has 75.000km (I don't know by heart how much miles that is)

1st & 2nd isn't a problem but 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th is.

It's really annoying because I don't have the full torque of the car.
Even when driving on cruise control and it's going up hill, the clutch starts to slip and cruise control turns off automaticlly.

My clutchpedal (don't know if this is the right word in english) is harder to push then before also.

Maybe cruel to say but I'm glad to hear that I'm not the only one with this problem.

I hope it's nothing worse and will be excepted under warrenty because of a bad batch or something.

I went this morning to my dealer and went on a spin with one of the tecnicians.
He never has had this kind of problem and thinks the clutch is *****ed up.
And asked me if I participated dragraces or if it was chipped, but none of this is true.
He also said this is one of several parts that doesn't falls under warranty so let's hope it's something else, the flywheel ect... like i've read here.

The soonest the car can come in to take the clutch out is on the 1st of september.

I'll keep you posted and in meanwhile I'll follow this topic.

Greetings from Belgium
Force

Charley Farley · 12th August 2008, 21:32

Hi All

Went back to my dealer Johnstons of Beaconsfield yesterday as I have a clicking clutch pedal. They said the pedal noise was due to the brake switch. He checked the faults section on the computer to see if my model civic has any warranty claims due the clutch.

He said there was not, but identified that the Accord has problems with the pressure plate (I think they are distorting). Anyway we went for another test drive only to find that it would not slip again. He said to come back again when it slipping more often.
so I am no further forward, I think I might try another dealer for a second opinion.

12th June 2008, 12:56	#84 (permalink)
cruncher Valve Cap Join Date: 14th May 2008 Location: uk Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	My problem solved what could possibly go wrong next Had the car serviced they adjusted the cruise control post as described elsewhere and they seem to have fixed the problem also had the handbrake recall/fuel cap/blue tooth microphone mods and new rear shocks all under warranty. They also updated the software for the display, messages like low fuel etc.

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cruncher Valve Cap Join Date: 14th May 2008 Location: uk Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	always look on the bright side the micro switch was adjusted which improved it 98 per cent but it still gives a slight slip dealer is going to replace clutch monday under warranty apparently the CRV suffers from this problem.

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27th May 2008, 23:43	#81 (permalink)
kissifer1972 Wheelnut Join Date: 28th August 2007 Location: Bradford, West Yorkshire Posts: 72 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Mine was in at the dealers for service today and they have reported that the clutch is fine. This despite them not having taken the car for a decent road test. It only slips when all the family are in and I am accelelrating hard up a hill. But surely these are the 1st signs? The fluid in the clutch reservoir is very dark, is this normal? I would have thought this is a sign that there is something wrong as the brake fluid, which does far more work and is exposed to higher temperatures, is not discoloured at all. Can anyone shed any light on this? Thanks Chris

28th May 2008, 00:10	#82 (permalink)
Dimplyred Super Moderator Civinfo guru Join Date: 24th August 2007 Location: Staffordshire Posts: 4,714 Thanks: 19 Thanked 132 Times in 131 Posts iTrader: (0)	You need to take out one of their technicians and demonstrate the problem. You are the one with the experience of the circumstances under which it slips.

28th May 2008, 00:32	#83 (permalink)
kissifer1972 Wheelnut Join Date: 28th August 2007 Location: Bradford, West Yorkshire Posts: 72 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Am a bit annoyed with the dealers right now, gave them a list of faults and I really don't think they have investigated any of them properly. I agree I need to replicate the problem in front of them, then they have to acknowledge it and there is a very steep hill near them to demonstrate on. Also have a problem with the seatbelt pinning me to my seat and not releasing it's ratchet. This is very intermittent, but unfortunately regular enough. Very difficult to replicate for them and they just say seatbelt is fine coz it wouldn't do it for them. Chris

14th June 2008, 23:27	#85 (permalink)
kissifer1972 Wheelnut Join Date: 28th August 2007 Location: Bradford, West Yorkshire Posts: 72 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Spoke to the dealers on friday. The car is going in for a week, next friday. They are going to take the gearbox out and examine the clutch. They said there has been a problem with the clutch wearing abnormally on the diesel Civ, as reported ealsewhere here. They suspect mine may have this problem and, if so, it will be sorted. Will let you know what the outcome is.

23rd June 2008, 16:56	#86 (permalink)
Alzyonline Supporter Valve Cap Join Date: 4th April 2008 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 8 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Have put another 5000 miles on the car since it stopped slipping after being driven hard for a few hours and have not had any sign of the clutch slipping.

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tezwar Supporter Valve Cap Join Date: 15th October 2006 Location: Gloucester. UK. Posts: 20 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader: (0)	Put about 10k on mine since it stopped. Also no probs, hope it stays that way.

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Pottsy Administrator Civinfo master Join Date: 10th April 2006 Location: Leics Posts: 5,472 Thanks: 22 Thanked 166 Times in 97 Posts iTrader: (0)	Slipping clutch - Civinfo Wiki

15th July 2008, 07:34	#89 (permalink)
Tomthumb Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 4th August 2006 Location: Top of Surrey Posts: 180 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	I have to join the list of slipping clutches. 42000 miles 2 years old and suddenly my clutch is slipping. Same as the others about 2600 rpm in 3rd, 4th and 5th gears. Will go see the dealer and post results on here.

15th July 2008, 07:55	#90 (permalink)
gprand Valve Cap Join Date: 22nd January 2008 Location: San Vito Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Hello, I finally solved the problem , wich was not the clutch itself , but the clutch pump , wich occasionally would not detach 100% and caused slipping. There was also a noise in the pedal (a "click") and the mechanic at honda service said it was a o-ring (or similar) wich broke and caused the clutch pump not to return 100% back, therefore the slipping. The clutch pump was changed under warranty becouse it's not a part listed in those subjected to consumption (like battery , tires and clutch disks) I don't know if this might be of help to you , but i wanted to let you know Ciao Giorgio

15th July 2008, 15:42	#91 (permalink)
Tomthumb Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 4th August 2006 Location: Top of Surrey Posts: 180 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	I have had a clicking in the clutch pedal that has now stopped. In fact it stopped about the same time the clutch started slipping/

25th July 2008, 16:34	#93 (permalink)
Tomthumb Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 4th August 2006 Location: Top of Surrey Posts: 180 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Just back from the dealer, they reproduced the click in the pedal and have said its the master cylinder. New one on order from Honda under warrenty no problems. The clutch didnt slip for them, mind you it hasnt slipped for me since I posted here it has just been clicking all the time. Clover Leaf Honda Ascott, been a good dealer so far and sorting this fault out without any hassel.

25th July 2008, 19:49	#94 (permalink)
cruncher Valve Cap Join Date: 14th May 2008 Location: uk Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Had the clutch replaced under warranty apparently in both the civic and crv in manufacturing the microswitch was fitted incorrectly. in some cases the switch refitting cures the problem but in some due to the slipping the clutch plate bows due to excessive heat and a tech bulletin points this out. I hope that this is finally fixed. I am going to the pyrenees soon that should give the clutch a good workout.

3rd August 2008, 09:13	#95 (permalink)
Soichiro Wheelnut Join Date: 27th June 2007 Location: Lincolnshire Posts: 58 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	The final straw for my 56 plate SE was the clutch slipping. Started at around 28K and would slip in third as you hit 1500 rpm (max torque). At it's worst it was impossible to safely accelerate on to a motorway as the road speed wouldn't increase, just the revs. I had already had a new master cylinder to cure "the click" and there was, according to the dealer, free play on the release rod. The bit that caused most stress was that the dealer refused to confirm that the cost of the clutch change would be covered until the car was stripped, clutch inspected and it was confirmed that I hadn't been drag racing! If Honda had decided my driving had caused the failure, I would have been billed for the whole strip down, new clutch and re assembly costs! This caused a little tiny wenie bit of friction between the dealer and myself...... Anyway clutch was changed car returned (took a week not 3 days as quoted) and it drove fine, no stiff gears, no slip, no dents, no grease on anything. Honda extended warranty for 2 more years. I don 't know what caused the slipping, I don't think Honda know. Maybe the clutch is a bit under sized for the engine output. What I do know is that if you slipped the clutch at full power and drove the car hard, the slipping got better. Perhaps the clutch linings get polished with smooth driving and need "roughing up" to work properly. As soon as car was fixed I changed it for a new ES, so someone has a SE with all the usual problems and quite a few others already fixed...Good luck

6th August 2008, 19:19	#96 (permalink)
Charley Farley Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 25th September 2006 Location: Greenford West London Posts: 488 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Hi All Well I can now join the ranks of the clutch slipping brigade. I've just come back from Cornwall with 4 up and full boot of luggage. It just didn't like hills at all. I had a chat with my mechanic friend and he said it was definately the clutch. Took it into Johnsons of Beaconsfield who drove the car and could not replicate the problem. So I guess I'll have to continue to monitor the problem so see if it returns. On another note my dashboard is rattling like mad, so they have agreed to fix under warranty at next service.

6th August 2008, 21:53	#97 (permalink)
Soichiro Wheelnut Join Date: 27th June 2007 Location: Lincolnshire Posts: 58 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Hi Charley, Mine was the same, hit 2000 rpm, slip like mad. Until the dealer was with me in the car, then good as gold. If I drove mine very smoothly the clutch slip would return after a few hundred miles, but if you slipped the clutch by pressing the pedal whilst travelling at around 50-60 in fourth or fifth until the revs started to soar then let the pedal go sharply a couple of times it would cure it for some time. A good way to make it slip was third gear (empty road) left foot brake; right foot acclerator and hold the car back on the brakes while getting up to full power! Most dangerous I know and not the best way to demonstrate to the dealer! I had to take a day off work, drive around until it was slipping good then whizz straight to the dealer. Still had a load of hassle to get it fixed. I have only done 5000k in my new 08 Civic so it's a bit early to till if I'm going to have to birch it John Cleese style in 25k miles!

6th August 2008, 23:15	#98 (permalink)
Charley Farley Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 25th September 2006 Location: Greenford West London Posts: 488 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Hi Soichiro Mines Slipping at between 2500 - 3000rpm and doesn't do it very often. It tends to do it after I driven slowly for while then suddenly ask for more power. Because its so intermittent I don't think I going to replicate it easily for quite a while. Its just so annoying because you its wrong but you can't convince the dealer. I'm begining to wonder how many more things are going to go wrong. The dealer said today that the dashboard has a myraid of creaks and squeaks due to a badly assembled piece of foam. Johnson's of Beaconsfield have been extremly helpful but obviously will not take any action until slipping manifests itself again. It looks like I'm going to have to prepare myself for the long haul.

12th August 2008, 10:07	#99 (permalink)
Force Valve Cap Join Date: 5th October 2007 Location: Ghent Posts: 48 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Hi guys I'm having the same problem with my 2.2 Executive. It's from april 2006 and has 75.000km (I don't know by heart how much miles that is) 1st & 2nd isn't a problem but 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th is. It's really annoying because I don't have the full torque of the car. Even when driving on cruise control and it's going up hill, the clutch starts to slip and cruise control turns off automaticlly. My clutchpedal (don't know if this is the right word in english) is harder to push then before also. Maybe cruel to say but I'm glad to hear that I'm not the only one with this problem. I hope it's nothing worse and will be excepted under warrenty because of a bad batch or something. I went this morning to my dealer and went on a spin with one of the tecnicians. He never has had this kind of problem and thinks the clutch is *****ed up. And asked me if I participated dragraces or if it was chipped, but none of this is true. He also said this is one of several parts that doesn't falls under warranty so let's hope it's something else, the flywheel ect... like i've read here. The soonest the car can come in to take the clutch out is on the 1st of september. I'll keep you posted and in meanwhile I'll follow this topic. Greetings from Belgium Force

12th August 2008, 21:32	#100 (permalink)
Charley Farley Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 25th September 2006 Location: Greenford West London Posts: 488 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Hi All Went back to my dealer Johnstons of Beaconsfield yesterday as I have a clicking clutch pedal. They said the pedal noise was due to the brake switch. He checked the faults section on the computer to see if my model civic has any warranty claims due the clutch. He said there was not, but identified that the Accord has problems with the pressure plate (I think they are distorting). Anyway we went for another test drive only to find that it would not slip again. He said to come back again when it slipping more often. so I am no further forward, I think I might try another dealer for a second opinion.