Induction K&N filter

trevorvogt · 13th September 2006, 12:15

Has anyone fitted a K&N filter to their civic yet or anyone know the part number and cost.

Bungle · 13th September 2006, 14:38

This has been discussed on here before, and it tured out that that kind of filter is not recommended for our engines for some reason, something to do with sensors and oil from the filter. I can't remember.

I am sure somebody will be along shortly with a link to the thread!

TTDegs · 13th September 2006, 16:46

Basically:

If all you are doing is adding a new filter, then the added gains you will get from it will be marginal, if any.

On the down side is the possibility that the oil on the filter element will clog up the MAF sensor, which is not a good thing

In my view, not worth taking the risk vs the benefit.

All that said, if you're playing with the engine to produce at bit more 'go' (eg chipping / tuning or whatever) then the standard filter may be restricting things - in which case the risk might become worth taking

jayt43 · 19th September 2006, 20:16

According to a German site I've found there is a K & N filter for the Civic 1.8 (referred to as FK2). Plus a few other goodies including carbon-fibre look wing mirrors and a replacement 1.4 engine cover!!

K & N themselves have an FAQ on the subject of MAF sensor failure.

All told, they reckon you get a max of a 4 bhp increase, but even that varies according to driving style etc.

Nick7 · 19th September 2006, 22:45

Be happy if you get 0.1bhp increase... no, really!

Jay · 24th September 2006, 21:52

AEM make Cold Air Intake/Short Ram intakes for the 1,8.
Their new filters do not use oil an should not cause the MAF to failure...

Nick · 25th September 2006, 00:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay

AEM make Cold Air Intake/Short Ram intakes for the 1,8.
Their new filters do not use oil an should not cause the MAF to failure...

where u read bout this jay? i searched on various performance sites with AEM filters and not one stock any for the 1.8

Jay · 25th September 2006, 10:00

Well I did a lot of reading about it last week. Just can't seem to find the right post about i now.

But there is a lot of talk about CAI and SRI for the R18A1 motor on:
www.vtec.net
www.8thcivic.com
So far Fujita, AEM and Injen make them - but can't tell you the difference.
But I have heard some people having problmes with the Motor Lamp turning on after mounting a new intake...

Hope it helps...

Thomas Landberg · 25th September 2006, 18:02

I plan on buying such a filter and test it on my own Civic 1.8. I have a dynometer and I can make precise measurements of the power and torque. When I have done that I will post the result here. I will also do a test of 95 vs. 97 octane. At the moment my car has a bit of a problem showing 140hp. Best result is 137hp.

Jay · 25th September 2006, 20:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomas Landberg

I plan on buying such a filter and test it on my own Civic 1.8. I have a dynometer and I can make precise measurements of the power and torque. When I have done that I will post the result here. I will also do a test of 95 vs. 97 octane. At the moment my car has a bit of a problem showing 140hp. Best result is 137hp.

Sounds like an excellent idea - let me know when you have some news!

BTW - which intake will you use? Can't seem to find a retailer in Denmark... only US

RedSIinPA · 25th September 2006, 21:22

many people are reporting state-side that the AEM intakes are throwing Check Engine Lights. For this reason it appears AEM has fallen out of favor with the 8th generation civic crowds. I'm a member at 8thcivic.

there are a lot of intake mods around already. K&N drop in filters are used by Spoon in most cases because the intake assembly from Honda is an excellent one already. I bought the Fujita short ram because I was looking for a bit of 'aural' pleasure in addition to the 2 whopping BHP

KE_DK · 25th September 2006, 21:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomas Landberg

I plan on buying such a filter and test it on my own Civic 1.8. I have a dynometer and I can make precise measurements of the power and torque. When I have done that I will post the result here. I will also do a test of 95 vs. 97 octane. At the moment my car has a bit of a problem showing 140hp. Best result is 137hp.

I'm also very interested in knowing if you have any performance increase by changing air intake. Which one do you plan on getting ?

By the way, Hi Thomas Landberg - I know you from www.hi-speed.dk (from my Peugeot days)

I thought you were all into the Seat TDi's these days ?

Thomas Landberg · 25th September 2006, 23:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by KE_DK

I'm also very interested in knowing if you have any performance increase by changing air intake. Which one do you plan on getting ?

By the way, Hi Thomas Landberg - I know you from www.hi-speed.dk (from my Peugeot days)

I thought you were all into the Seat TDi's these days ?

I think your first name is Kenneth and then I also know you. Strange to communicate with another dane in english...
I might buy an Altea FR van but I am a little tired of Seat's at the moment. My Toledo was a true disaster and my worst nightmare. Thanks good it is now gone. Love the Honda but I might change it with a CDTi sooner or later. 13k on the clock after 2½ month sounds like a reason to go the diesel way again...

Miggins · 25th September 2006, 23:58

Spoke with K&N in May and they didn’t do a filter for the diesel back then. Still nothing on their site so I have sent an email to their sales dept - will report back. Depending on the reply I get I will ask some pertinent questions!

ads · 26th September 2006, 03:05

With regards to the K&N Filter,

I would be very surprised if they produced a product that actually caused damage to our cars!

For one, they are a very reputable air filter company that has been producing products with great success for years! I've not heard of anyone having problems with K&N filters in the past and I'd be very surprised if anyone does have a serious problem with them in the future!

Nick7 · 26th September 2006, 10:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomas Landberg

I plan on buying such a filter and test it on my own Civic 1.8. I have a dynometer and I can make precise measurements of the power and torque. When I have done that I will post the result here. I will also do a test of 95 vs. 97 octane. At the moment my car has a bit of a problem showing 140hp. Best result is 137hp.

If that's WHP, it is awesome!
.. all depends what kind of dyno you use.
Btw, what do VTI's (6th gen, 160hp) cars read on that dyno usually?

KE_DK · 26th September 2006, 11:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomas Landberg

I think your first name is Kenneth and then I also know you. Strange to communicate with another dane in english...

Yep, thats me.

Looking forward to hear about what changes you are going to try with your Civic.
I am in the process of finding out how to install my Parrot BT kit in the Civic. Im a bit worried about the difficulity level of getting to the back of the radio..

Have you installed any HF ?

IWANTACIVIC · 2nd October 2006, 06:03

would be cool to see some results of kns and diffent fuels , i used kn stuff for 3-4 years no problem panels and induction kits, dont kg grantee not to damage your car ?

Miggins · 17th October 2006, 01:04

Recently received this reply from K&N to my Question about a filter for my Diesel. They list the 1.3 & 1.8 petrol for 2006 on the UK site - but not sure if it is the correct fitment for the Euro 5 Dr. If not I expect the following applies to petrol as well:

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++

Hello

Sorry for the late reply

We are currently assessing the sales figures on this panel filter but a decision should be made by next month

Regards,

James Evans
Sales Co-ordinator
K&N FIlters (Europe) LTD
Tel: 01925 636950
Fax: 01925 418948

-----Original Message-----
Sent: 25 September 200623:56
To: UK.SALES
Subject: RE: Filter for Honda Civic Diesel 2006

Hello,
Just checked your site for a filter for my 2.2 litre Diesel Civic – 2006MY and I am unable to find a suitable application.

Any news/target date for a filter for this vehicle?

Thanks

IWANTACIVIC · 17th October 2006, 09:44

Keep us posted on any new info

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13th September 2006, 14:38	#2 (permalink)
Bungle Rocketship door handle Join Date: 3rd July 2006 Location: SE London/Kent Posts: 1,217 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	This has been discussed on here before, and it tured out that that kind of filter is not recommended for our engines for some reason, something to do with sensors and oil from the filter. I can't remember. I am sure somebody will be along shortly with a link to the thread!

13th September 2006, 16:46	#3 (permalink)
TTDegs Super Moderator Civinfo master Join Date: 4th August 2006 Location: Cardiff Posts: 5,638 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader: (0)	Basically: If all you are doing is adding a new filter, then the added gains you will get from it will be marginal, if any. On the down side is the possibility that the oil on the filter element will clog up the MAF sensor, which is not a good thing In my view, not worth taking the risk vs the benefit. All that said, if you're playing with the engine to produce at bit more 'go' (eg chipping / tuning or whatever) then the standard filter may be restricting things - in which case the risk might become worth taking

19th September 2006, 20:16	#4 (permalink)
jayt43 Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 27th June 2006 Location: Budapest Posts: 509 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	According to a German site I've found there is a K & N filter for the Civic 1.8 (referred to as FK2). Plus a few other goodies including carbon-fibre look wing mirrors and a replacement 1.4 engine cover!! K & N themselves have an FAQ on the subject of MAF sensor failure. All told, they reckon you get a max of a 4 bhp increase, but even that varies according to driving style etc.

19th September 2006, 22:45	#5 (permalink)
Nick7 Supporter Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 10th August 2006 Location: Croatia Posts: 451 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader: (0)	Be happy if you get 0.1bhp increase... no, really!

24th September 2006, 21:52	#6 (permalink)
Jay Wheelnut Join Date: 28th August 2006 Location: Denmark Posts: 54 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	AEM make Cold Air Intake/Short Ram intakes for the 1,8. Their new filters do not use oil an should not cause the MAF to failure...

25th September 2006, 10:00	#8 (permalink)
Jay Wheelnut Join Date: 28th August 2006 Location: Denmark Posts: 54 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Well I did a lot of reading about it last week. Just can't seem to find the right post about i now. But there is a lot of talk about CAI and SRI for the R18A1 motor on: www.vtec.net www.8thcivic.com So far Fujita, AEM and Injen make them - but can't tell you the difference. But I have heard some people having problmes with the Motor Lamp turning on after mounting a new intake... Hope it helps...

25th September 2006, 18:02	#9 (permalink)
Thomas Landberg Valve Cap Join Date: 1st September 2006 Location: Denmark Posts: 11 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	I plan on buying such a filter and test it on my own Civic 1.8. I have a dynometer and I can make precise measurements of the power and torque. When I have done that I will post the result here. I will also do a test of 95 vs. 97 octane. At the moment my car has a bit of a problem showing 140hp. Best result is 137hp.

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RedSIinPA Valve Cap Join Date: 25th September 2006 Location: Hatfield, PA, USA Posts: 9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	many people are reporting state-side that the AEM intakes are throwing Check Engine Lights. For this reason it appears AEM has fallen out of favor with the 8th generation civic crowds. I'm a member at 8thcivic. there are a lot of intake mods around already. K&N drop in filters are used by Spoon in most cases because the intake assembly from Honda is an excellent one already. I bought the Fujita short ram because I was looking for a bit of 'aural' pleasure in addition to the 2 whopping BHP

25th September 2006, 23:58	#14 (permalink)
Miggins Enthusiastic Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 25th August 2006 Location: The Twilight Zone Posts: 529 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Spoke with K&N in May and they didn’t do a filter for the diesel back then. Still nothing on their site so I have sent an email to their sales dept - will report back. Depending on the reply I get I will ask some pertinent questions!

26th September 2006, 03:05	#15 (permalink)
ads Supporter Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 16th August 2006 Location: Epping, Essex Posts: 114 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	With regards to the K&N Filter, I would be very surprised if they produced a product that actually caused damage to our cars! For one, they are a very reputable air filter company that has been producing products with great success for years! I've not heard of anyone having problems with K&N filters in the past and I'd be very surprised if anyone does have a serious problem with them in the future!

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Miggins Enthusiastic Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 25th August 2006 Location: The Twilight Zone Posts: 529 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Recently received this reply from K&N to my Question about a filter for my Diesel. They list the 1.3 & 1.8 petrol for 2006 on the UK site - but not sure if it is the correct fitment for the Euro 5 Dr. If not I expect the following applies to petrol as well: ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++ Hello Sorry for the late reply We are currently assessing the sales figures on this panel filter but a decision should be made by next month Regards, James Evans Sales Co-ordinator K&N FIlters (Europe) LTD Tel: 01925 636950 Fax: 01925 418948 -----Original Message----- Sent: 25 September 200623:56 To: UK.SALES Subject: RE: Filter for Honda Civic Diesel 2006 Hello, Just checked your site for a filter for my 2.2 litre Diesel Civic – 2006MY and I am unable to find a suitable application. Any news/target date for a filter for this vehicle? Thanks

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IWANTACIVIC Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 16th September 2006 Location: LINCS UK Posts: 658 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Keep us posted on any new info