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Old 6th May 2008, 11:16   #1 (permalink)
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i have a 2.2 ctdi and considering running on biodiesel, anyone else run on bio ? or is it not advisable?
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i have a 2.2 ctdi and considering running on biodiesel, anyone else run on bio ? or is it not advisable?
I believe that 100% biodiesel isn't recommended for use in the 2.2 i-cdti by Honda, although I can't remember the reasons why.

If I were you, I'd give Honda customer services a call and ask them to clarify.
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Sorry but I can't shut up when it comes to bio fuel :
At present bio diesel is derived from food (fatty oils), and I say don't burn food, you will only discover it isn't enough of it.
I near future it will probably be economically feasible to make bio diesel from wood (cellulose), and then it might become a good idea.
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My mate in the village had his Forester 4x4, converted to bio fuel about 6 weeks ago.
The car has been in and out of the dealership, like a fiddlers elbow since.
Last week, they renewed the computer chips of the management system, to try and solve the way the engine was running so badly.
He wishes he had never gone for it now.
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Biofuels are clean and green.
Because photosynthesis performed by fuel crops removes greenhouse gases from the atmosphere and can reduce fossil fuel consumption, we are told they are green. But when the full lifecycle of biofuels is considered, from land clearing to consumption, the moderate emission savings are outweighed by far greater emissions from deforestation, burning, peat drainage, cultivation and soil-carbon losses.
Every ton of palm oil generates 33 tons of carbon dioxide emissions - 10 times more than petroleum. Tropical forests cleared for sugar cane ethanol emit 50 percent more greenhouse gases than the production and use of the same amount of gasoline.

The above is an extract from here:

The biofuel myths - International Herald Tribune

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At present bio diesel is derived from food (fatty oils), and I say don't burn food, you will only discover it isn't enough of it.
Precisely!! That is why animal feed is getting more and more expensive because a large proportion of crops are going into making fuel rather than feeding livestock! Hence the price of food in the supermarkets is going up!
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Can't read the whole article now, just glanced through it - but I'm afraid itæ's a lot of truth in it.
I can see the point in countrys like Brazil instead of importing more oil try to "grow" ethanol to meet higher fuel demands, out of purely economical reasons, but the CO2 balance in what theyr're doing may be negative (I don't know).

But - rapid conversion from mineral oil to bio fuel I'm afraid will create more problems than it solves.

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Precisely!! That is why animal feed is getting more and more expensive because a large proportion of crops are going into making fuel rather than feeding livestock! Hence the price of food in the supermarkets is going up!
Yes, but we will somehow manage to pay for it. Not all will, and then what?
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i have a 2.2 ctdi and considering running on biodiesel, anyone else run on bio ? or is it not advisable?
Honda says NO!!
Bio deisel??
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