Oil Which Oil in your 2.2 CTDi? - Page 3

cb550 · 17th July 2007, 06:58

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Originally Posted by Ancient Nerd

Yes. Edge is for both diesel and petrol.

The interesting point is that it does not claim to meet the ACEA A1/B1 sequence that Honda specify as the preferred option for the 2.2 i-CTDI engine.

I'm trying to get an answer from Honda CS to confirm that Amsoil Series 2000 0W/30 is OK. This is similar. It claims A1/B1 and A3/B3 on the printed specification, but it turned out on the label to miss the A1/B1 spec.

BTW A1/B1 is the current economy spec
A3/B3 (& A3/**) are (I think) the heavier duty ratings, normally with higher viscosity ratings.

I'm assuming that both oils satisfy the A1/B1 or better. But I'm not using it until I've got confirmation. Does anyone know better?

If UK 2.2's have a diesel particulate filter (does anyone know for sure if they do or not??) then the correct oil should be to ACEA C3 spec.The oil is formulated to minimise fouling of the dpf.

Castrol Edge diesel 0-w30 meets that spec and Castrol Edge 0-w30 does'nt.

Ancient Nerd · 17th July 2007, 08:26

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Originally Posted by Type S Bournemouth

my dealer used 10w 40 in my civic and told me i can use any brand i want as long as its 10w 40 and part synthetic.

I strongly suggest changing your dealer. Read the manual. 10w 40 is acceptable as a second choice. But semi synthetic???

Then think what happens if they work on your engine with that sort of knowledge.

djohnf · 20th July 2007, 16:58

Sorry to say there is more than one Castol Edge. There is Castol Edge and castrol Edge Turbo Diesel 0W-30, Spec ACEA A3/B3/**/C3
This is designed to protect the paticulate filter. Put Castol into Google and check the web site. you can submit your car type and the recommended oil is shown.

vtidan · 26th July 2007, 17:01

My 2.2 had 10w 40 in it when I bought it, so I had the dealers change it to that 0w 30 oil that they recommend and my fuel consumption improved by 3 or 4 MPG!

DUNCAN · 26th July 2007, 17:46

WHY do dealers put 10w40 in ?????

madasadad · 26th July 2007, 19:58

Dunno, went to stealer yesterday for top up, and he tried to sell me 10-40 saying its the only oil they put in the CDTI. I couldn't be bothered arguing that the last refill pack I bought from them was Castrol Edge with an included refill pack, for £11.99. He's getting both in tomorrow and I'll be going for the 0-30 Edge.

DUNCAN · 26th July 2007, 20:07

honda should tell its dealers what oil to sell.come on honda do your job and lets put a stop 10w 40.

czechplastik · 8th September 2007, 03:25

Dealer used Castrol SLX longtec FE 0w-30 at first service.

seejayess · 1st October 2007, 15:15

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Originally Posted by djohnf

..... Put Castol into Google and check the web site. you can submit your car type and the recommended oil is shown.

... and for the 2.2 HONDA civic diesel Castrol recommends the Edge Turbo Diesel formulation!!

slowhand · 1st October 2007, 20:19

Fish Bros of Swindon use Castrol Magnatec 10W40 A3 B3 in 1.8 and in the 2.2, they rekon you can use 0W30 but as its a thinner oil your oil consumption will increase.
I would check with your own dealer what they put in at service, because if they use a 10W40 you are just wasting your money topping up with expensive 0W30.
I am also not keen on mixing Full Synthetic with Part Synthetic, I was always told not to mix them

kamshaft · 6th October 2007, 10:49

ive had a service dont on my 2.2 and the dealer used shell helix ultra 5W-40,

cb550 · 6th October 2007, 12:21

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Originally Posted by kamshaft

ive had a service dont on my 2.2 and the dealer used shell helix ultra 5W-40,

My 2.2 was dealer serviced 5 months ago(approx.3k miles since) also using shell Helix.The dipstick level has'nt dropped and the car returns 48-55mpg depending on the mix of journeys.I'm more than happy with that

kamshaft · 6th October 2007, 13:35

well since having the oil change my car is returning less mpg, i get around 43/45mpg. Before i was getting 48ish. Would this have anything to do with the shell helix ultra 5W-40 that my stealer used?

cb550 · 7th October 2007, 06:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by kamshaft

well since having the oil change my car is returning less mpg, i get around 43/45mpg. Before i was getting 48ish. Would this have anything to do with the shell helix ultra 5W-40 that my stealer used?

If the car checks out the same as before the service,including tyre pressures and the driving cycle is the same,you'd need to know what was in the engine before its service.

Presumably an 0w-30 engine oil would offer less engine 'resistance'-potentially a little more power/economy than would a 5w-40 oil.As the weather gets a little colder the car will take longer to warm up to its efficient operating temperature,which will have some effect on fuel economy.I reckon mine's using a tiny bit more fuel recently-say 1-2 less miles per gallon.

servanus771 · 9th October 2007, 18:12

I cannot find Castrol Edge 0-30 w "diesel" variant, not even on the castrol website, so I bought the standard 0-3-w edge

seejayess · 9th October 2007, 18:50

Halfords stock it and even Tesco's!! . . Castrol Edge Turbo Diesel 0w-30 1L Oil - Tesco.Direct

servanus771 · 9th October 2007, 20:53

I apologise, it is on the castrol website and even at tesco, howver when you go on the castrol website and search by you car and enginer it directs you to the non Diesel specific variant of the oil

servanus771 · 9th October 2007, 20:55

I apologise it is on the castrol site and even at tesco, howver when you are on the castrol site and search for oil by car and engine type it directs you to the non diesel specific variant of the oil

DJReto · 10th October 2007, 07:57

My dealer put Castrol TXT Softec Plus 5W-30 into my 2.2i-CTDI...

bikersupermoto · 11th October 2007, 10:55

oh my god, does all this really matter?...reading this from a distance i couldnt stop laughing at how obsessed people are with oil and mpg?....take car to the garage for its service when its due, an just fill up an drive, when the gas is empty, go fill up again. its only a car!. weird.

View Poll Results: Which Oil in your 2.2 CTDi
Castrol Edge 0-30W	25	14.45%
Castrol Edge 0-30W Diesel	86	49.71%
Other brand fully synthetic	21	12.14%
Hell, I don't care, anything goes in the filler hole!	1	0.58%
Who the **** knows - what ever my dealer decided	40	23.12%
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This thread is about: Which Oil in your 2.2 CTDi?, it's in Engines and Transmission at the Honda Civic forum Civinfo; Originally Posted by Ancient Nerd Yes. Edge is for both diesel and petrol. The interesting point is that it does not claim to meet the ...

20th July 2007, 16:58	#43 (permalink)
djohnf Valve Cap Join Date: 22nd February 2007 Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Sorry to say there is more than one Castol Edge. There is Castol Edge and castrol Edge Turbo Diesel 0W-30, Spec ACEA A3/B3/**/C3 This is designed to protect the paticulate filter. Put Castol into Google and check the web site. you can submit your car type and the recommended oil is shown.

26th July 2007, 17:01	#44 (permalink)
vtidan Wheelnut Join Date: 14th June 2007 Location: Isle of Wight Posts: 69 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	My 2.2 had 10w 40 in it when I bought it, so I had the dealers change it to that 0w 30 oil that they recommend and my fuel consumption improved by 3 or 4 MPG!

26th July 2007, 17:46	#45 (permalink)
DUNCAN Supporter Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 7th June 2006 Location: tameside Posts: 321 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	WHY do dealers put 10w40 in ?????

26th July 2007, 19:58	#46 (permalink)
madasadad Supporter Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 21st February 2007 Location: Carrickfergus Posts: 272 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Dunno, went to stealer yesterday for top up, and he tried to sell me 10-40 saying its the only oil they put in the CDTI. I couldn't be bothered arguing that the last refill pack I bought from them was Castrol Edge with an included refill pack, for £11.99. He's getting both in tomorrow and I'll be going for the 0-30 Edge.

26th July 2007, 20:07	#47 (permalink)
DUNCAN Supporter Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 7th June 2006 Location: tameside Posts: 321 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	honda should tell its dealers what oil to sell.come on honda do your job and lets put a stop 10w 40.

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czechplastik King of the rodeo Civinfo guru Join Date: 24th October 2006 Location: Belfast Posts: 4,500 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Dealer used Castrol SLX longtec FE 0w-30 at first service.

1st October 2007, 20:19	#50 (permalink)
slowhand Wheelnut Join Date: 13th May 2007 Location: Wiltshire Posts: 59 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Fish Bros of Swindon use Castrol Magnatec 10W40 A3 B3 in 1.8 and in the 2.2, they rekon you can use 0W30 but as its a thinner oil your oil consumption will increase. I would check with your own dealer what they put in at service, because if they use a 10W40 you are just wasting your money topping up with expensive 0W30. I am also not keen on mixing Full Synthetic with Part Synthetic, I was always told not to mix them

6th October 2007, 10:49	#51 (permalink)
kamshaft Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 27th April 2007 Posts: 140 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	ive had a service dont on my 2.2 and the dealer used shell helix ultra 5W-40,

6th October 2007, 13:35	#53 (permalink)
kamshaft Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 27th April 2007 Posts: 140 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	well since having the oil change my car is returning less mpg, i get around 43/45mpg. Before i was getting 48ish. Would this have anything to do with the shell helix ultra 5W-40 that my stealer used?

9th October 2007, 18:50	#56 (permalink)
seejayess Valve Cap Join Date: 31st July 2007 Location: Notts. UK Posts: 32 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Halfords stock it and even Tesco's!! . . Castrol Edge Turbo Diesel 0w-30 1L Oil - Tesco.Direct

9th October 2007, 20:53	#57 (permalink)
servanus771 Supporter Valve Cap Join Date: 20th June 2007 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	I apologise, it is on the castrol website and even at tesco, howver when you go on the castrol website and search by you car and enginer it directs you to the non Diesel specific variant of the oil

10th October 2007, 07:57	#59 (permalink)
DJReto Valve Cap Join Date: 25th May 2007 Posts: 14 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	My dealer put Castrol TXT Softec Plus 5W-30 into my 2.2i-CTDI...

11th October 2007, 10:55	#60 (permalink)
bikersupermoto Valve Cap Join Date: 30th September 2007 Location: new baltimore, michigan, gods great country & glasgow, uk ((( Posts: 36 Thanks: 5 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	oh my god, does all this really matter?...reading this from a distance i couldnt stop laughing at how obsessed people are with oil and mpg?....take car to the garage for its service when its due, an just fill up an drive, when the gas is empty, go fill up again. its only a car!. weird.