Remap Superchips at last!!!

Pottsy · 20th May 2006, 11:08

Superchips are now listing the Civic

Having been involved with chipping for many years, there are 2 premium companies out there - Superchips and Revo. So I'd be very happy to take it to Superchips.

They offer

Quote:

Honda Civic iCDTi
2005 onwards
Engine type : Turbo-Diesel
Engine size : 2204 cm3
Cylinders : 4

Original bhp : 138
BHP increase : 28
NM gain : 73
Lb/Ft gain : 54
Power Curve

Price : £511.13

superchip_honda_civic.gif

http://www.superchips.co.uk/curves/accordicdti.pdf

Who is going to be the first?

WonkySights · 20th May 2006, 11:30

Over 300lbs/ft of torque

Gonna blow your gearbox up!!!

Pottsy · 20th May 2006, 11:34

320 ftlb - a nice figure.

Having been involved in a world of tuning Golf diesels, this is a totally normal kind of torque and there have never been any gearbox problems. The issue will be, if there is an issue, the clutch. Just occasionally in VW world people would get clutch slip on the most extreme conversions.

I hereby volunteer myself to be the guinea pig!

(Already phoned local installer but it will have to wait until Monday).

WonkySights · 20th May 2006, 17:00

VW over engineer and then detune there engines and gearboxes, Honda I'm not so sure about.

Pottsy · 20th May 2006, 17:28

I'm genuinely not worried about the box. They are comfortably over engineered to give a good life, so if anything the life might be reduced.

The clutch though has a finite limit and I really hope I don't reach it.

There's only one way to find out (can't wait!)

Nick · 20th May 2006, 17:33

i wonder when they will release a chip for the petrol 1.8

Pottsy · 20th May 2006, 17:36

The petrol engines cannot be chipped (well, some companies offer them but the make no noticable difference).

The chip "plays" with the turbo settings on the diesel.

Nick · 20th May 2006, 17:57

oh ic, well it can make some fuel economy differences i suppose.

Kpow99 · 20th May 2006, 18:10

What is the general increase in insurance costs? and does it knock out all warranty or just limited to engine?

elfa7 · 21st May 2006, 09:27

Good question.

Pottsy · 21st May 2006, 09:48

Quote:

What does the SUPERCHIPS warranty offer?

In the extremely unlikely event of a Superchip being responsible for causing damage to your vehicle, Superchips will, under the terms and conditions of our warranty, repair your vehicle.

We arrange for an independent assessor to evaluate the problem and to arrange for the repair of your vehicle quickly and professionally.

The warranty is not intended to replace the existing warranty provided by the manufacturer, but will supplement it to cover the parts deemed to be excluded by the manufacturer. Full terms and conditions are available upon request.

Free your engine from restrictive limits and find out what Superchips can do for you and your car....

Insurance depends on who your insurer is. Most companies deal with a % power increase, with the max allowable being 25% (then you're into specialist insurance territory, such as Adrian Flux). Typically though it's about £60 to £80.

Kpow99 · 21st May 2006, 12:37

Umm, interesting, wonder if you could get sub 8 for the 0-62 for the extra horses, if it did that would aout run just about any 2 litre derv out there and give alot of petrols a run for thier money too.

Pottsy · 21st May 2006, 13:18

Yep - it should be very similar to the chipped Mk4 and Mk5 diesel Golfs - around 7.5 secs or a bit less.

If anyone has the individual gear ratios and final drive ratio of the Civic diesel I can do a full analysis and prediction...

basegreen · 21st May 2006, 15:06

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Originally Posted by Pottsy

Yep - it should be very similar to the chipped Mk4 and Mk5 diesel Golfs - around 7.5 secs or a bit less.

If anyone has the individual gear ratios and final drive ratio of the Civic diesel I can do a full analysis and prediction...

I think I have that info somewhere actually. Let me check.

Pottsy · 22nd May 2006, 23:11

Got it booked in for Thursday morning. A slightly more involved job that the VW (which was done via the diagnostic port by the ashtray) - the ecu box has to be split open to get to the programming port so it'll take a few hours.

Will report back Thurs pm.

Charlie · 25th May 2006, 22:13

Pottsy, any news on that upgrade? I'm 50/50 on whether to do it.

Pottsy · 25th May 2006, 23:18

All done and

This really is a good conversion. Not peaky like the 1.9 Golf was (which was amusing, but odd) but it's the same old lovely engine at all times except:

a) when on the boost at half throttle you get more

b) at full throttle the engine growls more and you accelerate kind of 15% or 20% more.

Really nice on the motorway, and the extra power at the top end makes you want to drive the car that much harder.

Very nice. Not cheap, but very nice.

jme1978 · 25th May 2006, 23:30

How has the handling been affected - it gets a bit twitchy at high speeds as it is.

Sports suspension required??

J

Kpow99 · 26th May 2006, 09:40

Sounds great Potts, how much was it again? how much has your insurance gone up, or haven't you told them yet?

Pottsy · 26th May 2006, 16:10

No need for any other mods - of course when not at high power settings the car is exactly as before. Still wriggles a bit on full power in low gears, but nothing dramatic.

It was £511, plus £76 on the insurance.

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20th May 2006, 11:30	#2 (permalink)
WonkySights Wheelnut Join Date: 3rd May 2006 Location: Birmingham Posts: 73 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Over 300lbs/ft of torque Gonna blow your gearbox up!!!

20th May 2006, 11:34	#3 (permalink)
Pottsy Administrator Civinfo master Join Date: 10th April 2006 Location: Leics Posts: 5,086 Thanks: 17 Thanked 111 Times in 64 Posts iTrader: (0)	320 ftlb - a nice figure. Having been involved in a world of tuning Golf diesels, this is a totally normal kind of torque and there have never been any gearbox problems. The issue will be, if there is an issue, the clutch. Just occasionally in VW world people would get clutch slip on the most extreme conversions. I hereby volunteer myself to be the guinea pig! (Already phoned local installer but it will have to wait until Monday).

20th May 2006, 17:00	#4 (permalink)
WonkySights Wheelnut Join Date: 3rd May 2006 Location: Birmingham Posts: 73 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	VW over engineer and then detune there engines and gearboxes, Honda I'm not so sure about.

20th May 2006, 17:28	#5 (permalink)
Pottsy Administrator Civinfo master Join Date: 10th April 2006 Location: Leics Posts: 5,086 Thanks: 17 Thanked 111 Times in 64 Posts iTrader: (0)	I'm genuinely not worried about the box. They are comfortably over engineered to give a good life, so if anything the life might be reduced. The clutch though has a finite limit and I really hope I don't reach it. There's only one way to find out (can't wait!)

20th May 2006, 17:33	#6 (permalink)
Nick Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 9th May 2006 Location: London Posts: 230 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	i wonder when they will release a chip for the petrol 1.8

20th May 2006, 17:36	#7 (permalink)
Pottsy Administrator Civinfo master Join Date: 10th April 2006 Location: Leics Posts: 5,086 Thanks: 17 Thanked 111 Times in 64 Posts iTrader: (0)	The petrol engines cannot be chipped (well, some companies offer them but the make no noticable difference). The chip "plays" with the turbo settings on the diesel.

20th May 2006, 17:57	#8 (permalink)
Nick Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 9th May 2006 Location: London Posts: 230 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	oh ic, well it can make some fuel economy differences i suppose.

20th May 2006, 18:10	#9 (permalink)
Kpow99 Explosive Mind Unleashed Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 5th May 2006 Location: London Posts: 535 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	What is the general increase in insurance costs? and does it knock out all warranty or just limited to engine?

21st May 2006, 09:27	#10 (permalink)
elfa7 Supporter Rocketship door handle Join Date: 8th May 2006 Location: Cheshire Posts: 1,703 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Good question.

21st May 2006, 12:37	#12 (permalink)
Kpow99 Explosive Mind Unleashed Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 5th May 2006 Location: London Posts: 535 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Umm, interesting, wonder if you could get sub 8 for the 0-62 for the extra horses, if it did that would aout run just about any 2 litre derv out there and give alot of petrols a run for thier money too.

21st May 2006, 13:18	#13 (permalink)
Pottsy Administrator Civinfo master Join Date: 10th April 2006 Location: Leics Posts: 5,086 Thanks: 17 Thanked 111 Times in 64 Posts iTrader: (0)	Yep - it should be very similar to the chipped Mk4 and Mk5 diesel Golfs - around 7.5 secs or a bit less. If anyone has the individual gear ratios and final drive ratio of the Civic diesel I can do a full analysis and prediction...

22nd May 2006, 23:11	#15 (permalink)
Pottsy Administrator Civinfo master Join Date: 10th April 2006 Location: Leics Posts: 5,086 Thanks: 17 Thanked 111 Times in 64 Posts iTrader: (0)	Got it booked in for Thursday morning. A slightly more involved job that the VW (which was done via the diagnostic port by the ashtray) - the ecu box has to be split open to get to the programming port so it'll take a few hours. Will report back Thurs pm.

25th May 2006, 22:13	#16 (permalink)
Charlie Valve Cap Join Date: 9th May 2006 Location: Behind the wheel Posts: 37 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Pottsy, any news on that upgrade? I'm 50/50 on whether to do it.

25th May 2006, 23:18	#17 (permalink)
Pottsy Administrator Civinfo master Join Date: 10th April 2006 Location: Leics Posts: 5,086 Thanks: 17 Thanked 111 Times in 64 Posts iTrader: (0)	All done and This really is a good conversion. Not peaky like the 1.9 Golf was (which was amusing, but odd) but it's the same old lovely engine at all times except: a) when on the boost at half throttle you get more b) at full throttle the engine growls more and you accelerate kind of 15% or 20% more. Really nice on the motorway, and the extra power at the top end makes you want to drive the car that much harder. Very nice. Not cheap, but very nice.

25th May 2006, 23:30	#18 (permalink)
jme1978 Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 29th April 2006 Location: Cheshire Posts: 211 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	How has the handling been affected - it gets a bit twitchy at high speeds as it is. Sports suspension required?? J

26th May 2006, 09:40	#19 (permalink)
Kpow99 Explosive Mind Unleashed Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 5th May 2006 Location: London Posts: 535 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Sounds great Potts, how much was it again? how much has your insurance gone up, or haven't you told them yet?

26th May 2006, 16:10	#20 (permalink)
Pottsy Administrator Civinfo master Join Date: 10th April 2006 Location: Leics Posts: 5,086 Thanks: 17 Thanked 111 Times in 64 Posts iTrader: (0)	No need for any other mods - of course when not at high power settings the car is exactly as before. Still wriggles a bit on full power in low gears, but nothing dramatic. It was £511, plus £76 on the insurance.