Choices How`s the 1.4 engine??

BU5H1D0 · 26th October 2006, 13:26

Hey everybody!

I`m going to buy the new civic next month... but i`m still unsure about the engine...

Insurance is very expensive in Austria so i`m really thinking about buying the 1.4. Does anybody of you have one and can tell me how it performs?

I don`t need a race car, but i don`t what to fall asleep while accelerating to 100km/h. How about the fuel consumption aswell???

Thanks for your help, so long

generationgav · 26th October 2006, 17:33

Fuel consumption is amazing! I get on average around 44mpg (95% motorway driving) but had it up to 60 odd before!!

You're right; it's not that grunty; especially once it gets to about 40, the gear ratio's are nice so it can set off from the line with some decent accelleration but once you're going it drops off a bit, it definitely does the job though and easily gets to above 100km/h (60mph) without being strained at all; in fact it can get to 115km/h (70mph) pretty easily as well.
And maybe a bit higher??

Topcat · 26th October 2006, 19:02

I have had a 1.4 civic as a courtesy car on a few occasions and although it is slower to pull away compared to my own car once you are in the higher gears I was really suprised at how nippy it is. I mainly do back street driving and got about 450 miles from a full tank, whereas with my own 1.8 civic I average about 340 to a full tank the most i have got from a full tank is 410.

Why dont you test drive them both an see which you prefer

MC Hammer · 2nd November 2006, 19:31

If you drive the 1.4 with a sensible head on you can get over 500 miles on a tank full. It's almost on a par with a diesel, less the power of course!

P@tje · 19th November 2006, 08:09

I've a 1.4 i-Dsi Civic as well. Own it for a couple of weeks now!

My choice on de 1.4 was based on the good experiences I'd with the Jazz 1.2
The i-Dsi engine is quite smooth in all ranges and rev's nicely.
Of course it's not the engine to choice when you deside to burn rubber. But i'm quite happy with my choice (based on reliability, costs, comfort, drivestyle) and the civic is not a looser with this engine. Not at all.

In daily ride i don't feel that the civic is underpowered with this 83 HP engine. I love driving it and still am able to get high mileages and high average MPH's!

The campagne silver color is marvelous!

99jim · 22nd December 2006, 20:55

You mention Insurance being expensive. I live in Ireland where we have been scr$wed for years, anyway, I rang around for quotes this week and one insurance company (FBD) told me they couldn't give me a quote as they cant insure the 1.8 civic!!! When pushed the "Lady" said the car is probably an import (? all cars in Ireland are imported) and too powerful!!! and she would say no more. All I could do was laugh.

sco77harris · 22nd December 2006, 23:46

the engine is now beast but hardly if at all struggles has good accelaration and cruises well, sounds good, good economy etc

you justm iss a little power

JNeves · 23rd December 2006, 00:17

I have the 1.4 and so far I don't regret it. I use the car most in the city and high travels are usually done in the Summer. Very economic in city and responsive enough on the national roads. Cruises well. Of course a bit of extra power wouldn't be bad but the gearbox ratio explores well the engine performance.
In Portugal the cars are too much expensive because we pay IVA (21%) plus I.A. (car tax), which is calculated on the engine size (the bigger, the more you pay). My Sport version costed 22.700 Euros (15.236 GBP), fitted with some extras. The same version with the 1.8 engine is about 26.000 (17.451 GBP) and the 2.2 i-CDTi is 33.150 Euros (22.250 GBP).
I was coming from a Diesel car (a Peugeot 206) that I had when I used to travel a lot, and economy was still my first item to consider. The second was design. I could have bought the Diesel but to me this car in Portugal doesn't worth its final price. You don't buy a Honda Civic for that much (unless it's Type-R). Instead you consider Audi, BMW or Mercedes, but I really wanted to buy this car so I decided to go for the 1.4 after trying it. The 2.2 i-CDTi has a fabulous performance/economy but for the purpose I would give it, that would be unwise, unless I would run about 25.000Km/year, which I don't.

Happy Holidays,
JN

czechplastik · 24th December 2006, 22:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by 99jim

You mention Insurance being expensive. I live in Ireland where we have been scr$wed for years, anyway, I rang around for quotes this week and one insurance company (FBD) told me they couldn't give me a quote as they cant insure the 1.8 civic!!! When pushed the "Lady" said the car is probably an import (? all cars in Ireland are imported) and too powerful!!! and she would say no more. All I could do was laugh.

99jim that is laughable! want to name and shame the insurance company?

Spud · 27th December 2006, 13:52

I had that too (I'm also in Ireland).

I was told that my current insurance company would not insure me as the 1.8vtech was considered a high performance car!!!! Funnily enough though another company wanted only another €100 above what I was currently paying for a 2 litre 307 (diesel)

I think part of the problem is the majority of cars here seem to be 1.4's or less so any higher engine cc is considered a risk. Personally I also found a higher cc'd car safer as you can get out of nasty situations quicker.

99jim · 27th December 2006, 17:56

I had no problem when I had a 318 bmw worth the same as the civic, but as I said the only problem I had was with FBD Insurance. AA got a very good quote for me and I also got an excellent quote from Hibernian. Eany, meany, miny, mo.....

pjelsworth · 29th December 2006, 08:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by BU5H1D0

Hey everybody!

I`m going to buy the new civic next month... but i`m still unsure about the engine...

Insurance is very expensive in Austria so i`m really thinking about buying the 1.4. Does anybody of you have one and can tell me how it performs?

I don`t need a race car, but i don`t what to fall asleep while accelerating to 100km/h. How about the fuel consumption aswell???

Thanks for your help, so long

I think you need to try them all out and evaluate what you want. I have the 2.2 diesel but had a 1.4 petrol as a courtesy car, and as you would expect found it very slow in comparison.

P@tje · 1st January 2007, 19:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spud

I had that too (I'm also in Ireland).

I was told that my current insurance company would not insure me as the 1.8vtech was considered a high performance car!!!! Funnily enough though another company wanted only another €100 above what I was currently paying for a 2 litre 307 (diesel)

I think part of the problem is the majority of cars here seem to be 1.4's or less so any higher engine cc is considered a risk. Personally I also found a higher cc'd car safer as you can get out of nasty situations quicker.

Well if you never overtake in traffic, what nasty situations do you mean? Overtaking IS dangerous. Asspecialy here in this country (NL) where people drive to slow on normal roads.
And on highway the 1.4 is fast enough if I want to.
I have the 1.4 and I love to drive it. This car gives me quiet feeling and I don't get stressed. The cars I had before where much faster and noisier. In today's traffic fast cars are worthless imho !

czechplastik · 1st January 2007, 19:32

Different people have different needs, that the whole point of having different engines. Glad you're enjoying the 1.4 p@tje!

P@tje · 1st January 2007, 19:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by generationgav

in fact it can get to 115km/h (70mph) pretty easily as well.
And maybe a bit higher??

180 km/h is no problem ! These are real 173 km/h on the TomTom satnav.
I will try it in future on German Autobahn. I suppose it will reach the 190 km/h
With this speeds the 1.4 drives very stable ofcourse, as the car is made for much higher speeds but my engine doesn't aloud that...!

P@tje · 1st January 2007, 20:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by czechplastik

Different people have different needs, that the whole point of having different engines. Glad you're enjoying the 1.4 p@tje!

thanks. yes I do. And you're right about it. The fun for me is to get high average mileages in combination with high averages miles/hour.
At this moment I get 47 (UK) MPG ( 6.0 L/100km). Average speed is 38 miles/hr or 61km/h

This is in winter with winter tyres fitted. I am curious at what will happen to these in summertime!

So I don't drive slower then before with other cars. Speeding doesn't bring much profit. That's the lesson I learned sofar.

Spud · 2nd January 2007, 11:16

I am not advocating speeding by saying I prefer a larger engined car to a 1.4.

I refer to the fact that being able to accelerate faster than a smaller engined car can get you out of trouble ie a slow moving car pulling out in front of you on a dual carrigeway. IF you ram on the brakes you could help set up a pile up. Whereas if the overtaking lane is clear you can pull around the risk and continue.

I do not speed and have only received 1 speeding fine in 20 years. And that was due to the cops shooting fish in a barrel on a downhill straight where the road speed dropped by 20kph without adequate signage to advise you of this.

Swindon Japster · 2nd January 2007, 14:17

I was personally unimpressed when lent a 1.4 as a courtesy car, that was until I hired a similar spec Focus - truly tragic, neither recommended for any kind of long trip/motorway driving.

czechplastik · 2nd January 2007, 14:24

Smaller engines are naturally better suited to city driving and shorter journeys, the high pitched drone would really grate after a few hours on the motorway.

P@tje · 2nd January 2007, 16:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by czechplastik

Smaller engines are naturally better suited to city driving and shorter journeys, the high pitched drone would really grate after a few hours on the motorway.

Well that is not fully true in case of the 1.4 DSI. The engine makes less RPM's then my 2.0 Mazda 626 (1989)
Even driving with higher speeds on the motorway is easy. The engine is quite !

PS and I don't use the car for city driving as I live on the countryside.

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BU5H1D0 Valve Cap Join Date: 6th October 2006 Posts: 11 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	How`s the 1.4 engine?? Hey everybody! I`m going to buy the new civic next month... but i`m still unsure about the engine... Insurance is very expensive in Austria so i`m really thinking about buying the 1.4. Does anybody of you have one and can tell me how it performs? I don`t need a race car, but i don`t what to fall asleep while accelerating to 100km/h. How about the fuel consumption aswell??? Thanks for your help, so long

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JNeves Valve Cap Join Date: 11th December 2006 Location: Lisbon, PORTUGAL Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	I have the 1.4 and so far I don't regret it. I use the car most in the city and high travels are usually done in the Summer. Very economic in city and responsive enough on the national roads. Cruises well. Of course a bit of extra power wouldn't be bad but the gearbox ratio explores well the engine performance. In Portugal the cars are too much expensive because we pay IVA (21%) plus I.A. (car tax), which is calculated on the engine size (the bigger, the more you pay). My Sport version costed 22.700 Euros (15.236 GBP), fitted with some extras. The same version with the 1.8 engine is about 26.000 (17.451 GBP) and the 2.2 i-CDTi is 33.150 Euros (22.250 GBP). I was coming from a Diesel car (a Peugeot 206) that I had when I used to travel a lot, and economy was still my first item to consider. The second was design. I could have bought the Diesel but to me this car in Portugal doesn't worth its final price. You don't buy a Honda Civic for that much (unless it's Type-R). Instead you consider Audi, BMW or Mercedes, but I really wanted to buy this car so I decided to go for the 1.4 after trying it. The 2.2 i-CDTi has a fabulous performance/economy but for the purpose I would give it, that would be unwise, unless I would run about 25.000Km/year, which I don't. Happy Holidays, JN Last edited by JNeves; 23rd December 2006 at 00:22.

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generationgav Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 29th May 2006 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 809 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts iTrader: (0)	Fuel consumption is amazing! I get on average around 44mpg (95% motorway driving) but had it up to 60 odd before!! You're right; it's not that grunty; especially once it gets to about 40, the gear ratio's are nice so it can set off from the line with some decent accelleration but once you're going it drops off a bit, it definitely does the job though and easily gets to above 100km/h (60mph) without being strained at all; in fact it can get to 115km/h (70mph) pretty easily as well. And maybe a bit higher??

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Topcat Supporter Civinfo guru Join Date: 11th May 2006 Location: Middlesex Posts: 2,759 Thanks: 0 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts iTrader: (0)	I have had a 1.4 civic as a courtesy car on a few occasions and although it is slower to pull away compared to my own car once you are in the higher gears I was really suprised at how nippy it is. I mainly do back street driving and got about 450 miles from a full tank, whereas with my own 1.8 civic I average about 340 to a full tank the most i have got from a full tank is 410. Why dont you test drive them both an see which you prefer

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MC Hammer Kids use a lot of space Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 16th June 2006 Location: UK Posts: 618 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader: (0)	If you drive the 1.4 with a sensible head on you can get over 500 miles on a tank full. It's almost on a par with a diesel, less the power of course!

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P@tje Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 19th November 2006 Location: Netherlands Posts: 185 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	I've a 1.4 i-Dsi Civic as well. Own it for a couple of weeks now! My choice on de 1.4 was based on the good experiences I'd with the Jazz 1.2 The i-Dsi engine is quite smooth in all ranges and rev's nicely. Of course it's not the engine to choice when you deside to burn rubber. But i'm quite happy with my choice (based on reliability, costs, comfort, drivestyle) and the civic is not a looser with this engine. Not at all. In daily ride i don't feel that the civic is underpowered with this 83 HP engine. I love driving it and still am able to get high mileages and high average MPH's! The campagne silver color is marvelous!

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99jim Armchair Commander Valve Cap Join Date: 3rd November 2006 Location: Newbridge Posts: 26 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	You mention Insurance being expensive. I live in Ireland where we have been scr$wed for years, anyway, I rang around for quotes this week and one insurance company (FBD) told me they couldn't give me a quote as they cant insure the 1.8 civic!!! When pushed the "Lady" said the car is probably an import (? all cars in Ireland are imported) and too powerful!!! and she would say no more. All I could do was laugh.

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sco77harris Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 5th June 2006 Location: stanmore london Posts: 978 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	the engine is now beast but hardly if at all struggles has good accelaration and cruises well, sounds good, good economy etc you justm iss a little power

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Spud Supporter Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 6th October 2006 Posts: 243 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	I had that too (I'm also in Ireland). I was told that my current insurance company would not insure me as the 1.8vtech was considered a high performance car!!!! Funnily enough though another company wanted only another €100 above what I was currently paying for a 2 litre 307 (diesel) I think part of the problem is the majority of cars here seem to be 1.4's or less so any higher engine cc is considered a risk. Personally I also found a higher cc'd car safer as you can get out of nasty situations quicker.

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99jim Armchair Commander Valve Cap Join Date: 3rd November 2006 Location: Newbridge Posts: 26 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	I had no problem when I had a 318 bmw worth the same as the civic, but as I said the only problem I had was with FBD Insurance. AA got a very good quote for me and I also got an excellent quote from Hibernian. Eany, meany, miny, mo.....

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czechplastik King of the rodeo Civinfo guru Join Date: 24th October 2006 Location: Belfast Posts: 4,671 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader: (0)	Different people have different needs, that the whole point of having different engines. Glad you're enjoying the 1.4 p@tje!

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Spud Supporter Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 6th October 2006 Posts: 243 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	I am not advocating speeding by saying I prefer a larger engined car to a 1.4. I refer to the fact that being able to accelerate faster than a smaller engined car can get you out of trouble ie a slow moving car pulling out in front of you on a dual carrigeway. IF you ram on the brakes you could help set up a pile up. Whereas if the overtaking lane is clear you can pull around the risk and continue. I do not speed and have only received 1 speeding fine in 20 years. And that was due to the cops shooting fish in a barrel on a downhill straight where the road speed dropped by 20kph without adequate signage to advise you of this.

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Swindon Japster Wheelnut Join Date: 29th September 2006 Posts: 88 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	I was personally unimpressed when lent a 1.4 as a courtesy car, that was until I hired a similar spec Focus - truly tragic, neither recommended for any kind of long trip/motorway driving.

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czechplastik King of the rodeo Civinfo guru Join Date: 24th October 2006 Location: Belfast Posts: 4,671 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader: (0)	Smaller engines are naturally better suited to city driving and shorter journeys, the high pitched drone would really grate after a few hours on the motorway.