Oil Oil Change

Alashaz · 26th May 2006, 18:20

The dealer has sent me a letter stating that it is advisable to have an oil change and new filter for my Civic after the first 1000 miles.
However it states in the manual under "Breaking-period" (page 290) that the oil and filter should not be changed , I am a little confused.
We are going on holiday tomorrow and will excede the 1000 mile mark.
Any advice please.
Alan

Pottsy · 26th May 2006, 18:31

Firstly, welcome!

You'll be fine without the initial oil change. This really sounds like the dealer cashing in - the manual says no need, noone else here has had that letter, and you have a good warranty.

I reckon go on holiday and don't worry about it one bit.

Alashaz · 26th May 2006, 18:40

They are my thoughts.
A quick £50 for half an hours work.
I shall not name the dealers.
Go on then twist my arm .

Lookers

Kind regards Alan

basegreen · 26th May 2006, 19:20

No need for the oil and filter change whatsoever.

Kpow99 · 26th May 2006, 22:08

Welcome

No mention from my dealer, he said 12,500 for first service after i mentioned possible change at 1500.

Don't botheer and have a good run out in it

elfa7 · 27th May 2006, 08:27

Welcome Alan. No mention of early oil change from my dealer either.

mike222 · 27th May 2006, 10:59

The manual also refers to adverse driving conditions ( ie short journeys )
In which case The first oil change period should not be untill at least 6250 miles

Wonderboi · 31st July 2006, 12:38

I have spoke to my technicians this morning.

There is no need or benefit from having the oil & filter changed early.

Just wait till your 1st service.

Some dealers really piss me off and just get the motor trade a bad name.

pikkumies · 31st July 2006, 13:28

My dealer Breast Drunk, told me to come get an oil change at 10000 km. Manual says first service at 20k, 10k if you're driving in bad conditions. Dont know yet what to do

WonkySights · 31st July 2006, 13:57

Come on, this is 2006, you are warranted up to 12500mls in the UK.

If it blows up, dealer is responsible.

elfa7 · 31st July 2006, 14:02

Stick with the manual, and ignore the dealer.

elfa7 · 31st July 2006, 14:03

And please don't mention the dealers name again.

stretch · 5th August 2006, 17:37

Slightly, off subject anyone know what Oil is shipped with the car, I'd like to top it up with the same stuff, the leaflet that came with the owner's manual specs a different castrol oil than what castrol recommends on their web site (I've got a 1.8 petrol not the diesel)

Ta,

elfa7 · 5th August 2006, 17:52

See the handbook, pages 345/6.

Hartside · 5th August 2006, 17:59

Quote:

Slightly, off subject anyone know what Oil is shipped with the car, I'd like to top it up with the same stuff, the leaflet that came with the owner's manual specs a different castrol oil than what castrol recommends on their web site (I've got a 1.8 petrol not the diesel)

I noticed the leaflet with the car was wrong as well. It shows an old Civic rather than the new one. Oil for this car is expensive

stretch · 5th August 2006, 19:05

VTECs of old like clean oil (hence the 6000 mile oil change interval), not sure about the diesel heard reports it can be a bit of an oil burner

the iVTEC seems to be different from the classical VTECs.

The lube manufacturers seem to have gone all specialised with formulations for specific manufacturers that don't work well with others even with the same multigrade and viscosity values (c.f. castrol site regarding ford engines). End of the day, the oil tank is 3.4L even at £10 a litre its cheaper to fill up than the petrol tank and you don't have to do it every 500 or so miles

probably best getting the right stuff, nipping down to tesco for 5L of own brand 10/40W for less than a tenner is probably a false economy.....

sonicsteve · 6th August 2006, 23:36

So forgive me for being ignorant but which Castrol should I get to top up with? I looked at the pages in the manual and it's still not clear to me. I have the 2.2 Diesel.

Thanks

elfa7 · 7th August 2006, 07:27

For the diesel--- use genuine Honda motor oil, or 0W-30 synthetic motor oil that meets spec. "ACEA A1/B1". Page 347.

Hartside · 7th August 2006, 12:23

Use Castrol Edge fully synthetic, but make sure it is the 0W-30W

sonicsteve · 7th August 2006, 14:59

Thanks Hartside.

26th May 2006, 18:20	#1 (permalink)
Alashaz Valve Cap Join Date: 26th May 2006 Location: Cheshire Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Oil Change The dealer has sent me a letter stating that it is advisable to have an oil change and new filter for my Civic after the first 1000 miles. However it states in the manual under "Breaking-period" (page 290) that the oil and filter should not be changed , I am a little confused. We are going on holiday tomorrow and will excede the 1000 mile mark. Any advice please. Alan

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Alashaz Valve Cap Join Date: 26th May 2006 Location: Cheshire Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Oil change They are my thoughts. A quick £50 for half an hours work. I shall not name the dealers. Go on then twist my arm . Lookers Kind regards Alan

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26th May 2006, 18:31	#2 (permalink)
Pottsy Administrator Civinfo master Join Date: 10th April 2006 Location: Leics Posts: 5,039 Thanks: 13 Thanked 95 Times in 50 Posts	Firstly, welcome! You'll be fine without the initial oil change. This really sounds like the dealer cashing in - the manual says no need, noone else here has had that letter, and you have a good warranty. I reckon go on holiday and don't worry about it one bit.

26th May 2006, 19:20	#4 (permalink)
basegreen Super Moderator Civinfo guru Join Date: 15th April 2006 Location: noitacoL Posts: 2,870 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	No need for the oil and filter change whatsoever.

26th May 2006, 22:08	#5 (permalink)
Kpow99 Explosive Mind Unleashed Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 5th May 2006 Location: London Posts: 535 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Welcome No mention from my dealer, he said 12,500 for first service after i mentioned possible change at 1500. Don't botheer and have a good run out in it

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elfa7 Supporter Rocketship door handle Join Date: 8th May 2006 Location: Cheshire Posts: 1,703 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Welcome Alan. No mention of early oil change from my dealer either.

27th May 2006, 10:59	#7 (permalink)
mike222 Valve Cap Join Date: 19th May 2006 Location: Worcestershire Posts: 40 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	The manual also refers to adverse driving conditions ( ie short journeys ) In which case The first oil change period should not be untill at least 6250 miles

31st July 2006, 12:38	#8 (permalink)
Wonderboi Valve Cap Join Date: 27th July 2006 Location: Honda Sales Exec Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I have spoke to my technicians this morning. There is no need or benefit from having the oil & filter changed early. Just wait till your 1st service. Some dealers really piss me off and just get the motor trade a bad name.

31st July 2006, 13:28	#9 (permalink)
pikkumies Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 14th May 2006 Location: Jyväskylä, Finland Posts: 282 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	My dealer Breast Drunk, told me to come get an oil change at 10000 km. Manual says first service at 20k, 10k if you're driving in bad conditions. Dont know yet what to do

31st July 2006, 13:57	#10 (permalink)
WonkySights Wheelnut Join Date: 3rd May 2006 Location: Birmingham Posts: 73 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Come on, this is 2006, you are warranted up to 12500mls in the UK. If it blows up, dealer is responsible.

31st July 2006, 14:02	#11 (permalink)
elfa7 Supporter Rocketship door handle Join Date: 8th May 2006 Location: Cheshire Posts: 1,703 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Stick with the manual, and ignore the dealer.

31st July 2006, 14:03	#12 (permalink)
elfa7 Supporter Rocketship door handle Join Date: 8th May 2006 Location: Cheshire Posts: 1,703 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	And please don't mention the dealers name again.

5th August 2006, 17:37	#13 (permalink)
stretch Supporter Wheelnut Join Date: 13th July 2006 Location: Hemel Hempstead Posts: 58 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Slightly, off subject anyone know what Oil is shipped with the car, I'd like to top it up with the same stuff, the leaflet that came with the owner's manual specs a different castrol oil than what castrol recommends on their web site (I've got a 1.8 petrol not the diesel) Ta,

5th August 2006, 17:52	#14 (permalink)
elfa7 Supporter Rocketship door handle Join Date: 8th May 2006 Location: Cheshire Posts: 1,703 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	See the handbook, pages 345/6.

5th August 2006, 19:05	#16 (permalink)
stretch Supporter Wheelnut Join Date: 13th July 2006 Location: Hemel Hempstead Posts: 58 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	VTECs of old like clean oil (hence the 6000 mile oil change interval), not sure about the diesel heard reports it can be a bit of an oil burner the iVTEC seems to be different from the classical VTECs. The lube manufacturers seem to have gone all specialised with formulations for specific manufacturers that don't work well with others even with the same multigrade and viscosity values (c.f. castrol site regarding ford engines). End of the day, the oil tank is 3.4L even at £10 a litre its cheaper to fill up than the petrol tank and you don't have to do it every 500 or so miles probably best getting the right stuff, nipping down to tesco for 5L of own brand 10/40W for less than a tenner is probably a false economy.....

6th August 2006, 23:36	#17 (permalink)
sonicsteve Gadgeteer Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 27th April 2006 Location: Banbury Posts: 115 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	So forgive me for being ignorant but which Castrol should I get to top up with? I looked at the pages in the manual and it's still not clear to me. I have the 2.2 Diesel. Thanks

7th August 2006, 07:27	#18 (permalink)
elfa7 Supporter Rocketship door handle Join Date: 8th May 2006 Location: Cheshire Posts: 1,703 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	For the diesel--- use genuine Honda motor oil, or 0W-30 synthetic motor oil that meets spec. "ACEA A1/B1". Page 347.

7th August 2006, 12:23	#19 (permalink)
Hartside Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 4th May 2006 Location: Northumberland Posts: 557 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Use Castrol Edge fully synthetic, but make sure it is the 0W-30W

7th August 2006, 14:59	#20 (permalink)
sonicsteve Gadgeteer Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 27th April 2006 Location: Banbury Posts: 115 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks Hartside.