Transmission i shift information - Page 2

Honcho · 19th January 2007, 15:19

Perhaps those who've always driven manual find I-Shift an improvement, which I'm sure it is, and those who've always driven auto find it inferior, which I also can understand.

jrl · 19th January 2007, 19:41

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Originally Posted by Bungle

...In manual mode, it worked a lot better, but still not as good a real manual. I did like the paddles, but the novelty soon wore off!

Make sure you both give it a good test drive, I think that gearbox is a bit like marmite....

I agree on the automatic mode comments, but just out of curiosity: what's better in real manual comapred to paddles? If you think what you do in the manual, you use the clutch, ease on gas pedal, change gear, then lift clutch and use the gas pedal to get a smooth change. With iShift (or Selespeed or other similar systems) you should use the paddle and ease a bit on the gas pedal at the same time if you want similar smooth change. If you just want a speedy change, then you'll get a bit of a "bump" but the same happens with real manual.

signingrob · 19th January 2007, 22:20

Hi I don't like the I-shift its slow and jerky had mine reprogramed today so that it can learn my driving style again.I was told that Honda know thats theres a problem and are thinking of a software fix. Cant come soon enough for me.

Brodick · 19th January 2007, 22:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by signingrob

Hi I don't like the I-shift its slow and jerky had mine reprogramed today so that it can learn my driving style again.I was told that Honda know thats theres a problem and are thinking of a software fix. Cant come soon enough for me.

Can I ask If you don't like I-shift why did you buy the car?

Our Civic and CR-V's are both automatics but I still enjoyed the test drive
and can hardly wait for our new civic to arrive _ yes in auto mode it isn't as good as a full auto but it ain't jerky ( of course people are going to have different opinions - but having driven both manual and automatics
I have to say well done Honda ( yes there is room for improvement - but for their first attempt - I have no complaints)

Bigian · 20th January 2007, 18:48

This is a very interesting thread. My last three cars were all automatics (Cougar, Honda CRV and Mercedes) if you ‘put your foot down’ in the civic there is a definite lag between 1st and 2nd. However if you drive without hammering the throttle it is silky smooth without any lag and equal to the three cars mentioned earlier. However when switched to the Manual mode and you want to ‘put your foot down’ it is by far superior and gives you such a better driving experience altogether I do lift my foot from the accelerator pedal slightly when changing gears and again it is very smooth the problem for me being I often have to use company hired cars which I have driven many makes and models both automatics and manuals, none compare with the Honda’s I-shift for versatility and enjoyment of driving. Also something else happens when I have to change cars, I then realise how good the civic is as a very good all-rounder and I would not swap the car for anything in the price range as well as some more expensive cars. Best advice is try before you buy at least a couple of times and if possible get someone who drives an I-Shift to give you a ride.

signingrob · 20th January 2007, 19:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brodick

Can I ask If you don't like I-shift why did you buy the car?

Our Civic and CR-V's are both automatics but I still enjoyed the test drive
and can hardly wait for our new civic to arrive _ yes in auto mode it isn't as good as a full auto but it ain't jerky ( of course people are going to have different opinions - but having driven both manual and automatics
I have to say well done Honda ( yes there is room for improvement - but for their first attempt - I have no complaints)

Hi Brodick my wife is profoundley deaf so needs an auto and test drive car was sort of ok and we thought we would get used to the I-shift.Since reprograming the box its a bit better but we are considering changing it for the hybred, I have driven auto's since 76 and this is by far the worst but we like Hondas and its a great shape.

Brodick · 20th January 2007, 20:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by signingrob

Hi Brodick my wife is profoundley deaf so needs an auto and test drive car was sort of ok and we thought we would get used to the I-shift.Since reprograming the box its a bit better but we are considering changing it for the hybred, I have driven auto's since 76 and this is by far the worst but we like Hondas and its a great shape.

You need to remember that you are actually driving a manual car
with a semi auto box and on that basis it is good ( only the DSG box is better) however I understand what you are saying about the full Automatics

beepee · 20th January 2007, 20:08

I know there's probably an obvious answer to this but why does a deaf person need an automatic.

Honcho · 21st January 2007, 15:17

Because they are unable to hear when the engine revs are high enough to change gear.

beepee · 21st January 2007, 20:23

I knew it would be obvious.

moocowuk · 22nd January 2007, 17:53

I know this may have been mentioned on here - but can I just ask if anyone has one of the early ('06) I-Shifts? It's just that I'm thinking of changing my manual for an i-shift and went to see a dealer today - who sort of laughed at me for even asking about a used i-shift?

He basically said that the new one's don't have as many problems, but the older ones are horrible to drive??? Is this true? Should I just stick with the manual?

Thanks in advance!

allan40alt · 22nd January 2007, 18:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by moocowuk

I know this may have been mentioned on here - but can I just ask if anyone has one of the early ('06) I-Shifts? It's just that I'm thinking of changing my manual for an i-shift and went to see a dealer today - who sort of laughed at me for even asking about a used i-shift?

He basically said that the new one's don't have as many problems, but the older ones are horrible to drive??? Is this true? Should I just stick with the manual?

Thanks in advance!

Well, mine was collected in July '06 and it has been faultless.

Silky smooth gear change, quiet and smooth in auto and rapid with the paddle shift or stick. Can't see myself having anything else.

Love it!

moocowuk · 22nd January 2007, 19:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by allan40alt

Well, mine was collected in July '06 and it has been faultless.

Silky smooth gear change, quiet and smooth in auto and rapid with the paddle shift or stick. Can't see myself having anything else.

Love it!

Thanks for that! I can't imagine why the dealer would want to put me off sooo much - he honestly made it sound like the worse thing I could ever do!

AL56 · 22nd January 2007, 20:48

Hi moocowuk.

I agree with allan 40 alt. I took delivery of my i shift end of may 06 and it is a real plesure to drive you have the best of auto and manuel great.

1.8 EX I Shift alabaster silver, 18" altimos, r/camera,bespoke leather

mihael · 22nd January 2007, 22:48

Hi all my auto changes not as smooth as others sound to be and in heavy traffic feels a bit jerky in jams have been checking using gear change in out auto to check speed and gears mine is still in 4th ar 28mph 5th at 30mph seems wrong has any one found this and what gears speeds have you

allan40alt · 23rd January 2007, 09:31

Hi mihael, mine changes gear depending where my foot is on the accellerator. If I push down fast it will hold the gear far longer than if I gently push down.

A gentle push changes quicker through the gears and gets me into top quite soon. A rapid firm push and hold keeps the revs there to the point where, if I was using manual, I would be just about to change.

I use the paddles to change down to be ready for overtaking (or on a long hill climb or slowing through the gears to be ready to go back on the power). The beauty of the system is that you can switch from auto to manual and back again whilst on the move at any speed.

Great fun; I

it.

Charles_Harding · 23rd January 2007, 12:27

I wasn't too impressed with the i-Shift on it's test drive, but thought that I wanted the lazy way of driving so I still went with it when I put in the order.

It now seems a very clever piece of kit, as it seems to have learnt how I like to drive and I get absolutely faultless changes in Auto and I have the option of that extra bit of fun and control in 'Manual' when required.

......and that lack of fuel consumption....must be saving me ££££££'s

"Age is a high price to pay for maturity!"

Charles H.

Kremmen · 23rd January 2007, 12:41

Thanks Charles, with so many negative i-shift posts I was again beginning to wonder.

I'm sure I will get on with it OK.

Charles_Harding · 23rd January 2007, 13:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kremmen

Thanks Charles, with so many negative i-shift posts I was again beginning to wonder.

I'm sure I will get on with it OK.

Go and enjoy!!

I'm am not easily pleased but the i-Shift does satisfy.

Don't expect F1 speed of changes, their boxes come out a little more expensive the the Civic's!

"With all the advances in medicine they still have not got a cure for the common birthday!"

Charles H.

Maldax · 23rd January 2007, 16:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charles_Harding

Don't expect F1 speed of changes, their boxes come out a little more expensive the the Civic's!

"With all the advances in medicine they still have not got a cure for the common birthday!"

Charles H.

Their boxes come out a little more expensive than a Civic!

22nd January 2007, 22:48	#35 (permalink)
mihael Wheelnut Join Date: 11th June 2006 Posts: 98 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	i shift gear changes Hi all my auto changes not as smooth as others sound to be and in heavy traffic feels a bit jerky in jams have been checking using gear change in out auto to check speed and gears mine is still in 4th ar 28mph 5th at 30mph seems wrong has any one found this and what gears speeds have you

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19th January 2007, 15:19	#21 (permalink)
Honcho Supporter Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 5th October 2006 Posts: 261 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Perhaps those who've always driven manual find I-Shift an improvement, which I'm sure it is, and those who've always driven auto find it inferior, which I also can understand.

19th January 2007, 22:20	#23 (permalink)
signingrob Valve Cap Join Date: 16th January 2007 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hi I don't like the I-shift its slow and jerky had mine reprogramed today so that it can learn my driving style again.I was told that Honda know thats theres a problem and are thinking of a software fix. Cant come soon enough for me.

20th January 2007, 18:48	#25 (permalink)
Bigian Wheelnut Join Date: 19th June 2006 Posts: 72 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	This is a very interesting thread. My last three cars were all automatics (Cougar, Honda CRV and Mercedes) if you ‘put your foot down’ in the civic there is a definite lag between 1st and 2nd. However if you drive without hammering the throttle it is silky smooth without any lag and equal to the three cars mentioned earlier. However when switched to the Manual mode and you want to ‘put your foot down’ it is by far superior and gives you such a better driving experience altogether I do lift my foot from the accelerator pedal slightly when changing gears and again it is very smooth the problem for me being I often have to use company hired cars which I have driven many makes and models both automatics and manuals, none compare with the Honda’s I-shift for versatility and enjoyment of driving. Also something else happens when I have to change cars, I then realise how good the civic is as a very good all-rounder and I would not swap the car for anything in the price range as well as some more expensive cars. Best advice is try before you buy at least a couple of times and if possible get someone who drives an I-Shift to give you a ride.

20th January 2007, 20:08	#28 (permalink)
beepee Wheelnut Join Date: 1st December 2006 Posts: 61 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I know there's probably an obvious answer to this but why does a deaf person need an automatic.

21st January 2007, 15:17	#29 (permalink)
Honcho Supporter Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 5th October 2006 Posts: 261 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Because they are unable to hear when the engine revs are high enough to change gear.

21st January 2007, 20:23	#30 (permalink)
beepee Wheelnut Join Date: 1st December 2006 Posts: 61 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I knew it would be obvious.

22nd January 2007, 17:53	#31 (permalink)
moocowuk Supporter Wheelnut Join Date: 20th October 2006 Location: London Posts: 92 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I know this may have been mentioned on here - but can I just ask if anyone has one of the early ('06) I-Shifts? It's just that I'm thinking of changing my manual for an i-shift and went to see a dealer today - who sort of laughed at me for even asking about a used i-shift? He basically said that the new one's don't have as many problems, but the older ones are horrible to drive??? Is this true? Should I just stick with the manual? Thanks in advance!

22nd January 2007, 20:48	#34 (permalink)
AL56 Wheelnut Join Date: 22nd September 2006 Location: England Posts: 97 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hi moocowuk. I agree with allan 40 alt. I took delivery of my i shift end of may 06 and it is a real plesure to drive you have the best of auto and manuel great. 1.8 EX I Shift alabaster silver, 18" altimos, r/camera,bespoke leather

23rd January 2007, 09:31	#36 (permalink)
allan40alt Supporter Civinfo guru Join Date: 6th August 2006 Location: Rugby, Warwickshire. Posts: 2,220 Thanks: 26 Thanked 47 Times in 46 Posts	Hi mihael, mine changes gear depending where my foot is on the accellerator. If I push down fast it will hold the gear far longer than if I gently push down. A gentle push changes quicker through the gears and gets me into top quite soon. A rapid firm push and hold keeps the revs there to the point where, if I was using manual, I would be just about to change. I use the paddles to change down to be ready for overtaking (or on a long hill climb or slowing through the gears to be ready to go back on the power). The beauty of the system is that you can switch from auto to manual and back again whilst on the move at any speed. Great fun; I it.

23rd January 2007, 12:27	#37 (permalink)
Charles_Harding Civinfo guru Join Date: 14th August 2006 Location: S.E. London Posts: 3,269 Thanks: 122 Thanked 42 Times in 40 Posts	I wasn't too impressed with the i-Shift on it's test drive, but thought that I wanted the lazy way of driving so I still went with it when I put in the order. It now seems a very clever piece of kit, as it seems to have learnt how I like to drive and I get absolutely faultless changes in Auto and I have the option of that extra bit of fun and control in 'Manual' when required. ......and that lack of fuel consumption....must be saving me ££££££'s *"Age is a high price to pay for maturity!"* Charles H.

23rd January 2007, 12:41	#38 (permalink)
Kremmen Krem de la Krem Civinfo guru Join Date: 7th January 2007 Location: West London Posts: 2,510 Thanks: 6 Thanked 10 Times in 10 Posts	Thanks Charles, with so many negative i-shift posts I was again beginning to wonder. I'm sure I will get on with it OK.