Transmission vtec when cold

DUNCAN · 23rd January 2007, 21:42

the grarbox on the civic has been notchy and stiff when cold. ????????

knightrider · 23rd January 2007, 22:37

I totally agree, particularly when selecting 2nd or first, been like it since new. Mentioned it to the dealer - nothing wrong of course!!! Arggh

bounce75 · 23rd January 2007, 23:12

Yes sometimes when changing from first to second when cold it can be a bit notchy but nothing too serious though. How bad is yours?

Meino · 24th January 2007, 07:04

I also had this with my previous car. Could be possible due to the oil which is a bit thick. When the engine warms up (and so does the oil), the oil is getting thinner and can easier flow through the engine and gearbox etc.

MrEd · 24th January 2007, 07:51

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Originally Posted by Meino

I also had this with my previous car. Could be possible due to the oil which is a bit thick. When the engine warms up (and so does the oil), the oil is getting thinner and can easier flow through the engine and gearbox etc.

i have had it with every car i have ever owned n yeh its to do with the oil, bnothing to worry about its unavoidable tbh just keep an eye if it starts to do it when the gearbox is warm then somethings up with synchromeshes from 2nd upwards.

also 1st wont have a synchromesh so will also be prone to crunch (all cars)

Topcat · 24th January 2007, 08:08

This is something I have complained about all along, first car was replaced because of the bad gear change, the second car is better but still notchy and stiff.

I am not impressed with the gearbox in the civic at all. A friend of mine is having hers looked at as she cant get hers in to second gear without a real struggle.

czechplastik · 24th January 2007, 08:21

Mines a diesel but the gear box is silky smooth, was a bit funky at the start but settled down nicely. No complaints here!

allan40alt · 24th January 2007, 10:19

Mine is silky smooth; but that's the i-Shift for you.

Russell 10 · 28th January 2007, 09:05

My wifes 1.8 se has done 1500 miles. She has trouble getting 1st to 2nd, and going down the box into 2nd. Had a jazz for two years, the gearbox was so sweet!!!

itsrelfy · 28th January 2007, 10:46

My Civic hit 16000 miles yesterday and it is still notchy and stiff in 1st and 2nd, guess its a "quirk of the car sir"

Egelundsvej · 28th January 2007, 13:22

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Originally Posted by itsrelfy

My Civic hit 16000 miles yesterday and it is still notchy and stiff in 1st and 2nd, guess its a "quirk of the car sir"

Just over 9500 kms (close to 6000 miles, I guess) and the shift is still notchy/chunky between 1st and 2nd, going up and betwen 3rd and 2nd going down. Still better than in the Peugeot 307 I had - changing gear was like stirring a stick round in a bucket of coal - but nowhere near the shift in the Almera GTI that I had prior to the 307. But the Civic has so many other features goig for it, so I think its a great little car.

DUNCAN · 28th January 2007, 13:29

I had a ford puma for 8 years if you could put the gear change out of that in to the civic what a car it could be

Dutch_Civic · 28th January 2007, 14:52

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Originally Posted by DUNCAN

I had a ford puma for 8 years if you could put the gear change out of that in to the civic what a car it could be

My previous car was a Ford Puma and the gearbox was indeed really good. Although i must admit that my Civic's gearbox is also quite good. I find it easier to shift really fast than with the Puma.

DUNCAN · 28th January 2007, 15:22

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Originally Posted by Dutch_Civic

My previous car was a Ford Puma and the gearbox was indeed really good. Although i must admit that my Civic's gearbox is also quite good. I find it easier to shift really fast than with the Puma.

sorry but the gear shift in the civic is not as fast as the puma. the pumas got a quick shift fitted

Dutch_Civic · 28th January 2007, 15:35

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Originally Posted by DUNCAN

sorry but the gear shift in the civic is not as fast as the puma. the pumas got a quick shift fitted

The Puma has a close ratio gearbox fitted, but that doesn't mean u actually shift faster. I personally shift faster, or so it feels, beacuse of the way the stick feels when i put it in a gear.

DUNCAN · 28th January 2007, 15:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Topcat

This is something I have complained about all along, first car was replaced because of the bad gear change, the second car is better but still notchy and stiff.

I am not impressed with the gearbox in the civic at all. A friend of mine is having hers looked at as she cant get hers in to second gear without a real struggle.

how did your friend go on ???

jayt43 · 28th January 2007, 15:59

While I can't comment on Duncan's assertion that the Puma's gearbox was far better than the Civic's, I can certainly agree with Russell that the gearchange in the Jazz is superior to that of Swindon's new model. What's more the round gear knob was much nicer to hold too.

Must admit I don't have any problems with 1st to 2nd, but 2nd to 3rd is still notchy. Seemed to loosen up after a few months, but the cold weather seems to have had an adverse affect upon the change.

Thinking about it, for all the extra power the 1.8 has over the 1.4, I'd probably swap for the smaller engine if it came with the Jazz gearbox too (as the 1.4 DSI engine is the one found in the Jazz anyway).

DUNCAN · 28th January 2007, 18:32

yes honda dealer give me a jazz for a day gearchange superior to civic.

DUNCAN · 7th February 2007, 21:09

why is the cold weather giveing a bad gear change on the civic ????????????

Topcat · 7th February 2007, 21:24

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Originally Posted by DUNCAN

why is the cold weather giveing a bad gear change on the civic ????????????

Thank god - have you got bad gear change too?

Im sure no one believes me - cos I moan too much

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knightrider Supporter Valve Cap Join Date: 21st November 2006 Location: Darwen, Lancs Posts: 18 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	I totally agree, particularly when selecting 2nd or first, been like it since new. Mentioned it to the dealer - nothing wrong of course!!! Arggh

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bounce75 Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 26th October 2006 Posts: 128 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Yes sometimes when changing from first to second when cold it can be a bit notchy but nothing too serious though. How bad is yours?

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Meino Supporter Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 18th October 2006 Location: Netherlands Posts: 474 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	I also had this with my previous car. Could be possible due to the oil which is a bit thick. When the engine warms up (and so does the oil), the oil is getting thinner and can easier flow through the engine and gearbox etc.

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Topcat Supporter Civinfo guru Join Date: 11th May 2006 Location: Middlesex Posts: 2,759 Thanks: 0 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts iTrader: (0)	This is something I have complained about all along, first car was replaced because of the bad gear change, the second car is better but still notchy and stiff. I am not impressed with the gearbox in the civic at all. A friend of mine is having hers looked at as she cant get hers in to second gear without a real struggle.

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czechplastik King of the rodeo Civinfo guru Join Date: 24th October 2006 Location: Belfast Posts: 4,675 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader: (0)	Mines a diesel but the gear box is silky smooth, was a bit funky at the start but settled down nicely. No complaints here!

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allan40alt Supporter Civinfo guru Join Date: 6th August 2006 Location: Rugby, Warwickshire. Posts: 2,255 Thanks: 12 Thanked 33 Times in 31 Posts iTrader: (0)	Mine is silky smooth; but that's the i-Shift for you.

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Russell 10 Wheelnut Join Date: 24th December 2006 Posts: 90 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader: (0)	My wifes 1.8 se has done 1500 miles. She has trouble getting 1st to 2nd, and going down the box into 2nd. Had a jazz for two years, the gearbox was so sweet!!!

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itsrelfy Wheelnut Join Date: 19th November 2006 Location: kent Posts: 94 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	My Civic hit 16000 miles yesterday and it is still notchy and stiff in 1st and 2nd, guess its a "quirk of the car sir"

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DUNCAN Supporter Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 7th June 2006 Location: tameside Posts: 347 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	I had a ford puma for 8 years if you could put the gear change out of that in to the civic what a car it could be

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jayt43 Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 27th June 2006 Location: Budapest Posts: 520 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	While I can't comment on Duncan's assertion that the Puma's gearbox was far better than the Civic's, I can certainly agree with Russell that the gearchange in the Jazz is superior to that of Swindon's new model. What's more the round gear knob was much nicer to hold too. Must admit I don't have any problems with 1st to 2nd, but 2nd to 3rd is still notchy. Seemed to loosen up after a few months, but the cold weather seems to have had an adverse affect upon the change. Thinking about it, for all the extra power the 1.8 has over the 1.4, I'd probably swap for the smaller engine if it came with the Jazz gearbox too (as the 1.4 DSI engine is the one found in the Jazz anyway).

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