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I wondered if you could help me. I got in my car the other morning and it wouldn't go in gear, any gear. I managed to force it in and pretty much drove to work in second. Then all of a sudden it was ok. Later that night it did it again. I can put it in gear with the car turned off, but as soon as I turn it on it won't go in gear. It has been fine for days, then tonight it went again and when I went from second to third it you could feel it grinding. I had a performance clutch fitted at TDI North in February this year, so I'm hoping it's not that. Can anyone advise me please. I'm having to turn my car off, put it in gear then switch it on, then the next thing it's fine again. Is my gearbox packing up. This problem has started just like that, normally my gears are smooth.
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Sorry to hear that you have an issue.

It's most likely to be your hydraulics playing up, the uprated clutch is hewn from granite

Do you still have the clutch damper fitted?

Did you have the clutch master and/or slave cylinder changed alongside the clutch?

Have the hydraulics been recently refreshed?
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If your clutch bite point is very low, I suspect it is, then you can get it raised quote easily. There is a How To around here somewhere.
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Sorry to hear that you have an issue.

It's most likely to be your hydraulics playing up, the uprated clutch is hewn from granite

Do you still have the clutch damper fitted?

Did you have the clutch master and/or slave cylinder changed alongside the clutch?

Have the hydraulics been recently refreshed?
Hi Farqui, I haven't had anything done to the clutch. I have tonight emailed Freaky Parts to order the bypass hose. I don't know the answers to your questions, I don't really know what they mean. I haven't had anything done since the clutch was fitted. Is it an expensive job to get sorted?
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No, adjusting thr bite point is an easy DIY task. Easily done in 30mins, will allow for a couple of adjustments.

Flushing the fluid is a maintenance activity, half an hour job.

Removing the clutch damper and rebleeding is possible in an hour, i did mine several times!
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Sorry to hear that you have an issue.

It's most likely to be your hydraulics playing up, the uprated clutch is hewn from granite

Do you still have the clutch damper fitted?

Did you have the clutch master and/or slave cylinder changed alongside the clutch?

Have the hydraulics been recently refreshed?
Hi Farqui, I haven't had anything done to the clutch. I have tonight emailed Freaky Parts to order the bypass hose. I don't know the answers to your questions, I don't really know what they mean. I haven't had anything done since the clutch was fitted. Is it an expensive job to get sorted?
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You mentioned it being hydraulics. If I get the damper done will that help things. My husband seems to think there may be air in the pipes.
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Air in the hydraulics is entirely possible, also old fluid may need replacing. Hence getting the fluid flushed/replaced.

Good luck getting it sorted.
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Air in the hydraulics is entirely possible, also old fluid may need replacing. Hence getting the fluid flushed/replaced.

Good luck getting it sorted.
Will the bypass hose sort it Farqui?
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There's a good chance it will.

TDiNorth recently reported that they've been lots of hydraulic failures on high mileage/older cars.

The damper is a known weak point and a positive of removing it is that the clutch will be a bit lighter to operate

It's not a costly fix, so I say go for it.
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Hi Farqui, sorry, I didn't realise you had responded.

I've got the bypass hose, how much roughly would a garage charge to do this do you think? I can get some prices but I just wanted a rough estimation so I have an idea.
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Hi Lesley, I had the same issue with gear changes after having my CC clutch fitted. I resolved it by adjusting the biting point as advised by farqui.

I would suggest half a turn at a time and testing gear changes until you're happy. I had to eventually do 2 full turns before I could change gears smoothly.

Damper bypass is also a must as is bleeding the clutch. TDI North advise removing and raising slave cylinder to ensure you get all the air out. If in doubt get your mechanic to speak to TDI North as they will be more than happy to assist.

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@lesleyj , expect around 1hr labour, more (+1hr) if they take their time, hit a snag or aren't familiar with the swap.
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@lesleyj , expect around 1hr labour, more (+1hr) if they take their time, hit a snag or aren't familiar with the swap.
I took the car to the garage today to get the bypass hose fitted and they said I'd supplied the wrong part. After speaking to FreakyParts I do believe the garage has no clue of what to do. What type of garage would you suggest I go to?
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sorry to hear that.

If FreakyParts supplied the hose then it's the right one. He's supplied loads.

Sorry but I don't know any garages in Lincoln, maybe some other local members have a recommendation?
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sorry to hear that.

If FreakyParts supplied the hose then it's the right one. He's supplied loads.

Sorry but I don't know any garages in Lincoln, maybe some other local members have a recommendation?
Yeh, that's what I thought, it can't be my car is the only one with a different fitment. They took it all apart to fit too, then said it was the wrong part, put it all back and charged me for labour. Not a good day.
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I'm sure there is a decent how to in one of the threads which any decent mechanic can follow if you print it off for them.

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I'm sure there is a decent how to in one of the threads which any decent mechanic can follow if you print it off for them.

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My husband attempted it last night, but came unstuck on a bolt that won't budge and that just keeps turning, hence the reason it *** to the garage. I may just give up
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Gawd, they took you car apart and couldn't figure it out. If they didn't know what they were doing then why did they offer to do the job?!

Explanation posted earlier http://www.civinfo.com/forum/engines-transmission/329170-clutch-pump-replacement-post4572777.html

If you're in a real pickle, as you're fairly local then I may be able to give you a hand.
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Don't give up Lesley. Most members with the diesel have had issues with the clutch/damper at some point and considered giving up but persevered and got there in the end.

Have a look at the following thread which has an clear image of what needs replacing. If you can print it off and take to a competent mechanic then hopefully they should be able to carry out the work.

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