Transmission i Shift change - new software

[Roger]

HI I'm a new member, and was fascinated to read the comments on the
i-shift. I purchased a 1.8 EX i-shift in November, and have been very
unhappy with it. If Honda will not retrofit their new modifications to
earlier models, we should take some sort of collective action.
My car is bordering on dangerous as it pauses when deciding to change gear. Will be very interested if any earlier car gets modified

[Brodick]

Originally Posted by Roger

HI I'm a new member, and was fascinated to read the comments on the
i-shift. I purchased a 1.8 EX i-shift in November, and have been very
unhappy with it. If Honda will not retrofit their new modifications to
earlier models, we should take some sort of collective action.
My car is bordering on dangerous as it pauses when deciding to change gear. Will be very interested if any earlier car gets modified

How bad is the pause and do you mean between 1st and 2nd or other gears?
please don't take this the wrong way but it does sound to me as if you need to adjust your driving style -you can't really floor it without it
jerking or having a small pause

[Brodick]

Originally Posted by af1grg

i have been told that the i-shift has been a fundamental let down and there for honda is redesigning the entire i-shift, from gearbox upwards.

redesigning or redesigned ?

is the re-design what is being termed as the upgrade

[mihael]

Yes agree roger i get what you call the pauses and i test drove a lot of i shifts before ordering mine and i have modified my driving to the car but some times on occasions the box just does not get it right and i to feel puts you in a dangerous position as the box makes its mind up what to do ,have had cars up my bum while i try to get the car to accelerate yes its just a split second thing but still can be unsettling when i got my car i felt it did not perform as well as some of the demo cars i had driven but dealer thought it was just me having not got used to the drive system yet ,but now i hear honda are making changes to the system that they where fully aware needed more development but will not be doing any retrofit on the pretext that the government will not let them this makes me very angry indeed the box should not have been released if honda had not developed it to there and the publics satisfaction and safety

[Kremmen]

Just for info

I have just checked the DVLA site and my 1.8 i-shift has been registered as 160g/Km with the latest upgrade software, which keeps it in band D at £125.

[invalidusername]

Originally Posted by Kremmen

Just for info

I have just checked the DVLA site and my 1.8 i-shift has been registered as 160g/Km with the latest upgrade software, which keeps it in band D at £125.

Interesting!! Whereabouts on the site did you find the information, mate?

[Kremmen]

http://www.vehiclelicence.gov.uk/Evl...SKIN=directgov

Then I put in my registration number into the 'vehicle enquiry' tab.

[invalidusername]

Originally Posted by Kremmen

http://www.vehiclelicence.gov.uk/Evl...SKIN=directgov

Then I put in my registration number into the 'vehicle enquiry' tab.

Ah! Cheers for that ** Mine's also 160/Km and £125, so presumably, that means it has the latest software? Either way, I'm very impressed by how smooth the gear changes are.

[Charles_Harding]

Originally Posted by Kremmen

Just for info

I have just checked the DVLA site and my 1.8 i-shift has been registered as 160g/Km with the latest upgrade software, which keeps it in band D at £125.

I'm only paying £100 for mine!!!

"My doctor says I should get more fresh air. I now drive with the window open!"

Charles H.

[mihael]

charles harding have you checked yours my ex i shift has a tax disk on it for £125 although the invoice said £100 just been on dvla sight states my car band d = £125

[Charles_Harding]

Originally Posted by mihael

charles harding have you checked yours my ex i shift has a tax disk on it for £125 although the invoice said £100 just been on dvla sight states my car band d = £125

Just been out and checked

(Bl**dy cold out there!).

It shows my reg no ******* followed by £100!!!

's good enough for me.

Renewal in May, watch this space!

..........name and address withheld!!!

"When you become senile you won't even know it!"

Charles H.

[Brummer]

Hi all,

I was at the main office and technical centre of Honda in the Netherlands yesterday and had a nice chat with a technician about i-shift and what the changes are.
He told me the adjustment that has been made is a very simple one. Then driving automatic it used to shift at an rpm which made the car as economicly as possible (around 2000rpm) but they felt this was to soon and also comments from drivers made this more clear. The change of gears now takes place at 3000rpm and that's also the reason it's less econmical.

Hopefully this provides some people with some answers on what the changes are.

Regards, Brummer

[Charles_Harding]

Thanks for that Brummer.

I'll still stick to Millie's set piece tho'

"Who wants to live to be 100 years old? Anyone who's 99 I'd guess!"

Charles H.

[Kremmen]

I'll go along with that, mine is about 3000 RPM.

[pete]

hi all ....so .....has any one driven both ,,the original i shift and the new one ?if so what do you think to the new system ?

mine was expected the 1st march but has been put back to the 18th
its been on order since october last year ( is this a record?)
galaxy .... gray ex ishift leather sun roof studio pack 18in storms
however the dealer sb honda wakefield has leant me a car untill then..18 se sat nav
so cant really complain

[mihael]

Hi Kremmen i have the i shift with out the mod am being told the mod makes the change sporty and more smooth do you feel this is right as i assume you test drove the none mod version and was supplied the new version have you noticed anything like a lag if you slow toward a roundabout then accelerate away without stooping (don't mean flooring the pedal just normal pedal pressure ) its as if you press on the pedal and the car can not make up its mind what to do just for a split second or two? I'm hoping the mod has fixed this

[Kremmen]

Hi

Got to own up here, never went on a test drive

The i-shift workings are very similar to the Leyland National bus of the late 70's. It cuts the power briefly, changes the gear, then resumes power. Yes it does take some getting used to but that's half the fun.

Mine, once warmed up seems quite smooth but not as smooth as a normal torque converter automatic. The change is smoother the higher the gear.

As reported here elsewhere the 'almost stalling' feeling also takes some getting used to.

[timsdm]

I currently drive an Audi A3 tdi DSG (simillar to the ishift) and have ordered an EX ishift. When I test drove it, seemed a bit hesitant at roundabouts and when I was slowing at red lights and not coming to a stop hoping they would change. The sales guy suggested I came off the power a little as it was about to change gear, this seemed to help.
The DSG does exactly the same at roundabouts and at traffic lights if you are about to "apparently" come to a stop but don't, it changes down a gear and you lurch forward, alot of DSG drivers complained of the same thing and various remapping attempts were made but it seems it's a symptom of these intelligent gear boxes - they don't know what your thinking and therefore can't select a gear accordingly.
The sales guy had just moved a new ishift from one part of the forecourt to another, which had the new software. He said that it was much smoother and with slightly quicker changes.
Every new car takes a bit of getting used to and you have to adapt slightly with every car whether its visibility or seating position - the ishift is another thing to get used to and so far I don't think as a total package I have compromised at all in my car change.

[Brummer]

Hi all,

Just took a little test today: drove an old and new i-shift.
It is different. It just rev's up a little more making it shift smoother indeed. If you drive both cars with an hour in between the changes aren't that big but if you jump from one car in the other you will feel the difference.

[pete]

Thanks brummer ....so you think it was a little better then ?
hope so
i test drove the old i shift thought it a little od at first
but once i got used to it i thought it was ok
as all the other comments ..just let of the gas a little on the gear change

still waiting for mine to arive...................