Fuel best diesel for 2.2 - Page 3

ninooke · 29th April 2007, 22:12

I'm impressed with Shell V-Power Diesel as well, just a pity it's expensive.
for my daily ride to work I use whatever I can get for the lowest price.
In the weekend it's another story

madasadad · 30th April 2007, 14:45

I'm a big fan of BP Ultimate, last tank of fuel 45.5mpg v's 41.2 on Tesco's. Much smoother and definately more powerful.

long lens · 30th April 2007, 16:32

Just got back from a 230mile trip to Cambridge, A1, M11 etc plus small A & B roads stuck to speed limits, kept in high gears 54mpg inc 45mins stuck in traffic. Tesco diesel from day one.. perhaps if I used Shell I would get more but would have to travel umpteen miles to find a station so what's the saving..

apemonkeyman · 30th April 2007, 19:12

On Tesco diesel I just did 400 mile round trip mainly A40/M40/M25/M11, motorways at 85 on cruise, A40 mostly at 60 on cruise & upped to 48mpg from my previous run on the same route of 44mpg. now standing at just short of 4k overall.

Did try Shell super expensive & Shell standard but found no noticeable difference in performance or economy since returning to Tesco.

long lens · 30th April 2007, 19:54

Overall I'm averaging 43.5mpg over the 3k

from new 60% town (3mile max) 40% longer runs. Tesco all the way club card points mounting up nicely. Havn't put more than £40 worth in a huge differnce from the 2.3 Type V Accord which dropped to 21mpg should save me approx £850 per year, shame though I'll miss out on the extra club card points!!!!

Type S Bournemouth · 30th April 2007, 19:59

im thinking of going back to using tesco fuel. I havent noticed any difference in mpg since using shell or bp. rather start earning tesco points again

czechplastik · 30th April 2007, 23:31

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Originally Posted by Type S Bournemouth

im thinking of going back to using tesco fuel. I havent noticed any difference in mpg since using shell or bp. rather start earning tesco points again

Let me know what you think after a few tanks of Tescos 'finest'. I usually fill with it, but have been so impressed with the BP, really is a noticeable difference, I think I'll stick with it for a while. Have yet to try the Shell.

richardc · 1st May 2007, 08:36

I filled mine with BP Ultimate on the last but 1 fill. I only got 400 miles out of the tank, and that was with one 170 mile motorway trip.

trickytree71 · 1st May 2007, 10:03

I mainly alternate between Shell and Esso - depending on which end of my usual journey I need to fill up at. I must say between these I seem to get better mpg from Esso.

pjelsworth · 4th May 2007, 17:08

My last fill up was my first and last from Tesco. I have had the car a year and it was the worst MPG I have had in that time. It was mainly local running with 80 miles motorway and I got 404 miles from the tank ..... that is about 10% down on my usual with Shell

MrBruGuy · 30th June 2007, 11:44

I'm just filling up wherever I am when I need fuel wether it be Supermarket fuel or otherwise. I get 41ish as an average driving over 1000 miles a week in the Type S GT 2.2. Thing is, I drive it how my mood takes me at the time, sometimes its a gentle cruise, sometimes perhaps a little more spirited!! I bought it to have fun in, not to worry about my fuel return!

harq · 30th June 2007, 12:30

Ok, I'm not a Civic owner (yet!), but my 306 always seems to go better on Sainsbury's City Diesel. Just a feeling, just seems to have that extra spring in it's wheels and feels smoother.

FergusTheDog · 1st July 2007, 11:13

Only filled mine up twice in the first 1200 miles or so but ran well on initial tank (think it was Shell as that's the nearest to the dealer), not much difference on tank from Waitrose but a lot noisier on latest tank from Esso. Economy getting materially better as miles go on, looks like over 50 on current tank full.

taylor · 3rd July 2007, 21:25

I used to be an RX-8 owner and their forum has some interesting discussions on fuel. There's a few guys on there that have some technical expertise on the subject. Perhaps you can't make a direct comparison between diesel and petrol but they generally found that supermarket fuel was no worse than Esso/BP/Shell etc. Apparantly the turnover of the station is more important than the additives as the both fuel and additives deteriorate over time. Thus a supermarket with high turnover is likely to have better quality of fuel than a lower turnover big brand outlet. But it's your money so put in chip fat if you prefer for all I care!

Have a nosey at their forum here

lobey dosser · 4th July 2007, 00:01

A gentleman from East Ayrshire, eh? That's tractor country.....
How's the 2.2 running on the red diesel?

(Only a wee gag)

My 2.2 is on its 3rd tank from new :-

1st was Jet (put in by the dealer)
2nd was BP Ultimate (as recommended hereabouts)
3rd is Esso cooking diesel (nearest station to where I was)

I can't, honestly, say that I've noticed the slightest difference in performance or smoothness in any of them.
The 3rd tankful isn't finished yet so I can't quote MPG for the Esso, but Jet & BP Ultimate both gave 45-46 MPG with about 80% city driving.

My jury is definitely still out.

DeanFYoung · 4th July 2007, 08:14

I believe Ninooke is right - in that Diesel from different suppliers all comes from essentially the same source and it is then modified. For instance, Shell Diesel Extra contains additional additives (aka a detergent) that helps clean the engine which in turn helps ensure the engine is running as it was when it left the factory i.e. as efficiently as possible. which therefore means the performance and fuel eccomony is retained. It's not a different grade of Diesel, it just has other stuff in it that Tescos fuel doesnt (which is why Tesco fuel is more competitively priced (it doesnt have the overhead costs of additives etc)

If anyone switches to this fuel, I think it will probably take several tanks before you see the benefit of the switch...
If you use this fuel from new, once the engine is run in I reckong you will probably get some pretty good fuel ecomony figures. Unfort, my only local petrol station is a tescos

On petrol engines you can put some stuff in the engine that De-Cokes(SP?) it; does anyone know of similar things that can be done with a Diesel engine??

Thats what I think anyway

robbo51 · 4th July 2007, 20:37

Have you tried Millers Sport 4 Diesel additive. Really good stuff. I used it on my last car(Skoda Fabia vRS 130 Tdi) and it made a difference. Less noise, better response and less smoke.

DeanFYoung · 5th July 2007, 08:41

I've not no, do you add this to the fuel tank or elsewhere?

Can you get it down Halfords - think I'll give that a go...

Mutley · 6th August 2007, 10:32

I use Use BP Ultimate Diesel and get around 6-8 mpg more than other Diesel

madasadad · 6th August 2007, 13:02

I've used the BP Ulitmate for quite a while, and, once I felt that the percevied benefits wore off, I tried a couple of tankfulls of Tesco's finest. NEVER again, the car started to pink under acceleration and was generally a lot rougher sounding. The benefits were not obviously only perceived!. I then tried a couple of ordinary BP Diesel, and whilst significantly better than Tesco's, neither of them come close to the performance of the BP Ultimate, in terms of smoothness, power and fuel ecomony. It is a false ecomony NOT to use BP Ultimate, in my own opinion of course.

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29th April 2007, 22:12	#41 (permalink)
ninooke Valve Cap Join Date: 28th November 2006 Location: Flanders Posts: 29 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	I'm impressed with Shell V-Power Diesel as well, just a pity it's expensive. for my daily ride to work I use whatever I can get for the lowest price. In the weekend it's another story

30th April 2007, 14:45	#42 (permalink)
madasadad Supporter Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 21st February 2007 Location: Carrickfergus Posts: 273 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	I'm a big fan of BP Ultimate, last tank of fuel 45.5mpg v's 41.2 on Tesco's. Much smoother and definately more powerful.

30th April 2007, 16:32	#43 (permalink)
long lens Valve Cap Join Date: 29th March 2007 Posts: 11 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Just got back from a 230mile trip to Cambridge, A1, M11 etc plus small A & B roads stuck to speed limits, kept in high gears 54mpg inc 45mins stuck in traffic. Tesco diesel from day one.. perhaps if I used Shell I would get more but would have to travel umpteen miles to find a station so what's the saving..

30th April 2007, 19:12	#44 (permalink)
apemonkeyman Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 2nd February 2007 Location: Gloucester Posts: 668 Thanks: 3 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	On Tesco diesel I just did 400 mile round trip mainly A40/M40/M25/M11, motorways at 85 on cruise, A40 mostly at 60 on cruise & upped to 48mpg from my previous run on the same route of 44mpg. now standing at just short of 4k overall. Did try Shell super expensive & Shell standard but found no noticeable difference in performance or economy since returning to Tesco.

30th April 2007, 19:54	#45 (permalink)
long lens Valve Cap Join Date: 29th March 2007 Posts: 11 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Overall I'm averaging 43.5mpg over the 3k from new 60% town (3mile max) 40% longer runs. Tesco all the way club card points mounting up nicely. Havn't put more than £40 worth in a huge differnce from the 2.3 Type V Accord which dropped to 21mpg should save me approx £850 per year, shame though I'll miss out on the extra club card points!!!!

30th April 2007, 19:59	#46 (permalink)
Type S Bournemouth Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 3rd October 2006 Location: Bournemouth Posts: 988 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	im thinking of going back to using tesco fuel. I havent noticed any difference in mpg since using shell or bp. rather start earning tesco points again

1st May 2007, 08:36	#48 (permalink)
richardc Wheelnut Join Date: 17th March 2007 Posts: 79 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	I filled mine with BP Ultimate on the last but 1 fill. I only got 400 miles out of the tank, and that was with one 170 mile motorway trip.

1st May 2007, 10:03	#49 (permalink)
trickytree71 Valve Cap Join Date: 27th September 2006 Posts: 8 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	I mainly alternate between Shell and Esso - depending on which end of my usual journey I need to fill up at. I must say between these I seem to get better mpg from Esso.

4th May 2007, 17:08	#50 (permalink)
pjelsworth Supporter Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 14th May 2006 Location: Halifax, W. Yorks Posts: 379 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	My last fill up was my first and last from Tesco. I have had the car a year and it was the worst MPG I have had in that time. It was mainly local running with 80 miles motorway and I got 404 miles from the tank ..... that is about 10% down on my usual with Shell

30th June 2007, 11:44	#51 (permalink)
MrBruGuy Valve Cap Join Date: 29th June 2007 Location: Inverness Posts: 8 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	I'm just filling up wherever I am when I need fuel wether it be Supermarket fuel or otherwise. I get 41ish as an average driving over 1000 miles a week in the Type S GT 2.2. Thing is, I drive it how my mood takes me at the time, sometimes its a gentle cruise, sometimes perhaps a little more spirited!! I bought it to have fun in, not to worry about my fuel return!

30th June 2007, 12:30	#52 (permalink)
harq Valve Cap Join Date: 27th June 2007 Location: Cambridge Posts: 27 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Ok, I'm not a Civic owner (yet!), but my 306 always seems to go better on Sainsbury's City Diesel. Just a feeling, just seems to have that extra spring in it's wheels and feels smoother.

1st July 2007, 11:13	#53 (permalink)
FergusTheDog Wheelnut Join Date: 25th May 2007 Location: Wiltshire Posts: 95 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Only filled mine up twice in the first 1200 miles or so but ran well on initial tank (think it was Shell as that's the nearest to the dealer), not much difference on tank from Waitrose but a lot noisier on latest tank from Esso. Economy getting materially better as miles go on, looks like over 50 on current tank full.

3rd July 2007, 21:25	#54 (permalink)
taylor Valve Cap Join Date: 1st July 2007 Location: East Ayrshire Posts: 10 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	I used to be an RX-8 owner and their forum has some interesting discussions on fuel. There's a few guys on there that have some technical expertise on the subject. Perhaps you can't make a direct comparison between diesel and petrol but they generally found that supermarket fuel was no worse than Esso/BP/Shell etc. Apparantly the turnover of the station is more important than the additives as the both fuel and additives deteriorate over time. Thus a supermarket with high turnover is likely to have better quality of fuel than a lower turnover big brand outlet. But it's your money so put in chip fat if you prefer for all I care! Have a nosey at their forum here

4th July 2007, 00:01	#55 (permalink)
lobey dosser Supporter Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 21st May 2007 Location: Glasgow Posts: 193 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	A gentleman from East Ayrshire, eh? That's tractor country..... How's the 2.2 running on the red diesel? (Only a wee gag) My 2.2 is on its 3rd tank from new :- 1st was Jet (put in by the dealer) 2nd was BP Ultimate (as recommended hereabouts) 3rd is Esso cooking diesel (nearest station to where I was) I can't, honestly, say that I've noticed the slightest difference in performance or smoothness in any of them. The 3rd tankful isn't finished yet so I can't quote MPG for the Esso, but Jet & BP Ultimate both gave 45-46 MPG with about 80% city driving. My jury is definitely still out.

4th July 2007, 08:14	#56 (permalink)
DeanFYoung Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 19th June 2007 Location: Southampton Posts: 696 Thanks: 12 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts iTrader: (0)	I believe Ninooke is right - in that Diesel from different suppliers all comes from essentially the same source and it is then modified. For instance, Shell Diesel Extra contains additional additives (aka a detergent) that helps clean the engine which in turn helps ensure the engine is running as it was when it left the factory i.e. as efficiently as possible. which therefore means the performance and fuel eccomony is retained. It's not a different grade of Diesel, it just has other stuff in it that Tescos fuel doesnt (which is why Tesco fuel is more competitively priced (it doesnt have the overhead costs of additives etc) If anyone switches to this fuel, I think it will probably take several tanks before you see the benefit of the switch... If you use this fuel from new, once the engine is run in I reckong you will probably get some pretty good fuel ecomony figures. Unfort, my only local petrol station is a tescos On petrol engines you can put some stuff in the engine that De-Cokes(SP?) it; does anyone know of similar things that can be done with a Diesel engine?? Thats what I think anyway

4th July 2007, 20:37	#57 (permalink)
robbo51 It's my fault! Civinfo guru Join Date: 1st July 2007 Location: Bingley, W.Yorks Posts: 3,780 Thanks: 65 Thanked 71 Times in 68 Posts iTrader: (0)	Have you tried Millers Sport 4 Diesel additive. Really good stuff. I used it on my last car(Skoda Fabia vRS 130 Tdi) and it made a difference. Less noise, better response and less smoke.

5th July 2007, 08:41	#58 (permalink)
DeanFYoung Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 19th June 2007 Location: Southampton Posts: 696 Thanks: 12 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts iTrader: (0)	I've not no, do you add this to the fuel tank or elsewhere? Can you get it down Halfords - think I'll give that a go...

6th August 2007, 10:32	#59 (permalink)
Mutley Supporter Valve Cap Join Date: 22nd November 2006 Location: uk Bridgwater Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	I use Use BP Ultimate Diesel and get around 6-8 mpg more than other Diesel

6th August 2007, 13:02	#60 (permalink)
madasadad Supporter Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 21st February 2007 Location: Carrickfergus Posts: 273 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	I've used the BP Ulitmate for quite a while, and, once I felt that the percevied benefits wore off, I tried a couple of tankfulls of Tesco's finest. NEVER again, the car started to pink under acceleration and was generally a lot rougher sounding. The benefits were not obviously only perceived!. I then tried a couple of ordinary BP Diesel, and whilst significantly better than Tesco's, neither of them come close to the performance of the BP Ultimate, in terms of smoothness, power and fuel ecomony. It is a false ecomony NOT to use BP Ultimate, in my own opinion of course.