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Old 20th November 2007, 20:15   #161 (permalink)
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Mine wont budge above 41-42, which is a bit disappointing for a diesel?

Perhaps, but on the other hand. It's a 2.2 liter, not exactly a small engine
That's the price we pay for driving a fast and smooth car.
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Old 20th November 2007, 21:36   #162 (permalink)
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Do you do short journeys or a lot of town work? Whatever the Fuel Computer says you should be getting 500+ miles to the tank full.
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Old 20th November 2007, 22:40   #163 (permalink)
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Do you do short journeys or a lot of town work? Whatever the Fuel Computer says you should be getting 500+ miles to the tank full.
My computer says I'm getting 42-44 mpg on trip A, and B is saying 44.2 (over the last 8K miles).

I usually fill up at around 30miles left in the tank, which usually means putting in roughly 46ltrs - about 10 gallons.
At this point I have invariably done about 430 miles.

All give and take, depending on how many runs I've had as opposed to 20mile commutes (mix of town, fast A roads and a bit of dual carriageway)

I rarely get 500 miles to a tank, unless I'm on a decent long run
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Old 21st November 2007, 11:53   #164 (permalink)
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I do 26 miles to work and 26 miles back but the secret is to use Cruise Control whenever practical. 20 miles of my journey is with cruise control ON.
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Old 21st November 2007, 22:35   #165 (permalink)
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I do 26 miles to work and 26 miles back but the secret is to use Cruise Control whenever practical. 20 miles of my journey is with cruise control ON.
Good idea. Wish I had it on my 1.8 SE.
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Old 22nd November 2007, 08:12   #166 (permalink)
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I do 26 miles to work and 26 miles back but the secret is to use Cruise Control whenever practical. 20 miles of my journey is with cruise control ON.
i get even better mpg with cruise off on roads that are going slightly down.
With cruise on its 4 eco lights, cruise off results in 6
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My type R is doing around 29.5mpg. I was talking the the production manager at work, he has a type s diesel. He's had it a couple of months now and his average is 33mpg
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My type R is doing around 29.5mpg. I was talking the the production manager at work, he has a type s diesel. He's had it a couple of months now and his average is 33mpg
he must be a "smooth" driver
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My type R is doing around 29.5mpg. I was talking the the production manager at work, he has a type s diesel. He's had it a couple of months now and his average is 33mpg
He must be flooring it all the time to get that low. Mine does early 40's around town.
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He must be flooring it all the time to get that low. Mine does early 40's around town.
If you met him you would know why, he is brilliant at his job but a nutter away from work.
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Old 23rd November 2007, 20:10   #172 (permalink)
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Mine wont budge above 41-42, which is a bit disappointing for a diesel?
I was getting around 47 then it dropped to 45. I reset the counter about two weeks ago and altered the way I drive and now I'm getting 52+mpg
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I was getting around 47 then it dropped to 45. I reset the counter about two weeks ago and altered the way I drive and now I'm getting 52+mpg
I agree. This is the key I feel to better mpg with the higher octane fuel. A driving instructor pall of mine calls it the ‘head down arse up’ style of driving where, the individual darts around like a demented housefly with little cognisance or awareness of what is in front, to the side or behind them. They simply react to the immediate situation instead of planning ahead and interpreting the hazards well in advance. The result is short sharp blasts on both the accelerator and brake peddles. They are also usually the ones tailgating the car in front cos they are very, very late for everything or want to be doing 90 every where they go. By adapting a more forward thinking approach and better planning, you will not only prolong your own life, that of the car and it’s consumable components. But also improve fuel economy.

My theory in relation to the benefit of using V-pwr is that with 95 Ron you subconsciously settle in to a comfortable driving style which amongst other things requires a certain amount of pressure on the accelerator in order to achieve the requires amount of acceleration/speed. This will of course be different and fairly unique to each individual depending on a wide and complicated set of parameters. However with the 97 or 98 Ron fuel, the car is more responsive, accelerates more quickly and runs better so therefore you feel the acceleration and desired speed much earlier without the need to apply the same amount of pressure over the same time span. lLess imput means less consumption. Therefore I have concluded that it is not the fuel per say that gives the improved economy but the combination of better performance and a slight subconscious change in your driving style as a result.



Scientifically the higher octane fuel is better in terms of combustibility which the engine will harness to produce more power on a ltr for ltr basis and consequentially offer better acceleration per psi of pressure on the accelerator.

You may disagree with this but having tried shell v-pwr and spent some time thinking about the results, these are just some of my thoughts on the subject. Afterall no two cars are exactly the same, just as no two people on this earth are exactly the same and no two journeys are exactly the same etc, etc, etc……. In my very humble opinion, if you like V-pwr or the other commercially available equivalents then use it. If not, then don’t. It’s your individual choice and no one else’s opinion including mine matters jot. Each to their own.

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Old 24th November 2007, 18:44   #174 (permalink)
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42 mpg

I have a 34 mile round trip commute from a village outside Scunthorpe to Doncaster. The first part is 2 miles of empty A roads (60 mph), then M180 (empty) for 9 miles (speed limit), M18 (bit busier- 65 mph) for 4 miles then A roads (busier, 40 mph and some stop start) to outskirts of Doncaster. Interesting that mpg improves at 30-40 mph to about 42.5 on trip A; at 70 it drops to around 41 mpg.

I realise it's a big engine but my Freelander did 38 with a 2.0TD4 engine on same journey.

Maybe it will improve as it runs in; forum members reckon there will be a 10% improvement after 6000 miles.

I like the car though

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52 Mpg on circuit from Lpool up M6 to A59 to Skipton--A65 through to Settle ;Horton; Ribblehad; Hawes; Coalroad to Dent; K.Lonsdale ; Whittington; Arkholme; The Kellets; M6; M62 back to Lpool Great drive! Some pretty hairy roads including some 1/4 grades and lots of singletracks! I am well happy with that!!!----- 2.2 iCtdi Galaxy glass roof and other stuff--great car!!! corners like a cat and pushes up steep grades as if they were flat . Got to watch out for bottoming on some roads though so dont push it on the higher routes. Best drive since my old Escort 1300 GT back in the day!!
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Old 25th November 2007, 08:24   #176 (permalink)
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I managed a best of 52mpg in my Type R over 30 + miles. It did involve some special economy driving techniques but start and finish points were roughly the same elevation and I was traveling as fast as the rest of the traffic. Useful to know what it can do if you get caught short of fuel. There is photo evidence on the type R fuel economy thread:

Type R fuel economy

However, if you use the performance it can drop into the low 20s or even teens!

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I am currently getting 36.3 out of my CTR.

Mostly longer runs at reasonable speed - however if I even slightly hit the throttle this goes down dramatically!!!

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hehe Man I've got some work to do

After having my car for three days and driving it around 30 - 50 miles each day my economy is at 32.4mpg.

Bearing in mind that the car has already done 14000 miles as I couldn't aford a brand spanker I thought that the engine would have sorted itself out by now and that I would be gaining the best economy that I could get out of it straight away.

I guess I have been a bit pedal happy since I got it. I'll have to take some prozac next week I think.

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Old 25th November 2007, 21:19   #179 (permalink)
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Sadly my MPG has gone up a lot due to my CTR's return to the UK. Autobahns, you will be missed!

I am tempted to go for a test of a Type S 2.2, as petrol prices here are a joke. Remember the protests the last time it went over a £ per litre? Why do we put up with it now?
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Mostly town driving Trip B (7500miles) 38.7 this includes occasional longer trips, Trip A round town usually 35/36.
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