Oil Wrong Oil for Diesel 2.2

dieselnewbie · 16th April 2011, 11:38

Picked up the car last Saturday and just received the sales service invoice from the dealer (Renault not Honda). It shows that they have filled the car with Mobil S 10W40 which appears to be a semi synthetic oil not a fully synthetic oil.

The manual and a search on this forum appears to show that the engine needs fully synthetic 0W30 oil.

I have only done 100 or so miles on the new oil in the last week. Should I change out to fully synthetic ASAP or would it be OK to leave in until the next main service in 2 months time? What are the issues with this - could it cause damage to my engine?

Any advice appreciated.

Martin

coste1l · 16th April 2011, 11:57

Take it back buddy!

dieselnewbie · 16th April 2011, 12:17

Dealer now saying that whilst it says Mobil S 10W40 on the sales invoice, that they actually used Elf Evolution SXR 5W40 fully synthetic!

How can I tell that this really is the case?

Will just have to get it changed out by Honda next month for peace of mind anyway.

loud_pedal · 16th April 2011, 12:44

I'm not surprised they said that. It was the first thing that entered my head when I read Coste1l. That's still the wrong oil though. I'd insist they change it.

Not from an iPhone

JohnnyBoy · 16th April 2011, 12:45

Tell them you don't care what they say, you want the oil changed to be on the safe side as that is what it says on their invoice. I'd tell them you want to be there when you do it too.

Relic · 16th April 2011, 13:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyBoy

Tell them you don't care what they say, you want the oil changed to be on the safe side as that is what it says on their invoice. I'd tell them you want to be there when you do it too.

+1... this is a diesel with turbo... 0w30 or 5w30 full synth if you must.

dieselnewbie · 16th April 2011, 13:40

Thanks for the replies guys - will get it changed out to Castrol 0W30 next week.

JohnnyBoy · 16th April 2011, 13:47

Don't take any crap for them, they should be more careful with what they put on their invoices in future. Like I said, insist on being there when they do it too, make sure they don't stiff you on it.

Alpha · 17th April 2011, 21:35

Honda filled mine up with havoline 5w30 energy

steve fox · 17th April 2011, 21:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alpha

Honda filled mine up with havoline 5w30 energy

Well they shoudn't have done, 0-30 fully synthetic is the only correct one.
These garages are all penny pinching. Tell them to do the service properly to Honda specification.

Alpha · 17th April 2011, 22:02

thought so to but i thought that Honda knows what they are doing, but im at the dealer wednesday so ill pop the question

pup · 17th April 2011, 22:12

castrol longtec 0w30 is what my dealer puts in and there is abouyt 10 stickers throughout the car to remind me of the correct oil, as well as a leaflet in the handbook. even castrol website recomends 0w30.

dont take ***** from untrustworthy dealers. demand demand and demand..

Alpha · 18th April 2011, 22:51

checked the manual, it says 5w30 or 0w30 (0w30 is a must under -20 celcius which it doesnt get here..)

Pottsy · 18th April 2011, 23:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alpha

checked the manual, it says 5w30 or 0w30 (0w30 is a must under -20 celcius which it doesnt get here..)

Have a read here: Oil - Civinfo Wiki

F6HAD · 18th April 2011, 23:16

That Wiki is very useful - and yes as everyone else has said if you care about your engine just change it for 0w/30 asap.

Alpha · 19th April 2011, 11:19

Will tell em tomorrow then! so they can change it while lowering vic

dieselnewbie · 19th April 2011, 19:00

Checked with my local Honda dealer also and they are using Mobil 1 0W30. What's the opinion on it? Is Castrol Edge 0W30 better?

dieselnewbie · 19th April 2011, 19:02

Also should the engine be filled to the max mark on the dipstick in the 2.2 or is it OK mid-way between?

Thanks in advance

coste1l · 19th April 2011, 19:13

to the max and mobil 1 is spot on

JohnnyBoy · 19th April 2011, 19:37

As long as it's 0w30 fully synthetic then you can't go wrong really. So are the garage going to change the oil free?

16th April 2011, 11:38	#1 (permalink)
dieselnewbie Car: 2006 2.2d ES silver Join Date: 13th April 2011 Location: London, UK Posts: 15 Thanks given: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Wrong Oil for Diesel 2.2 Picked up the car last Saturday and just received the sales service invoice from the dealer (Renault not Honda). It shows that they have filled the car with Mobil S 10W40 which appears to be a semi synthetic oil not a fully synthetic oil. The manual and a search on this forum appears to show that the engine needs fully synthetic 0W30 oil. I have only done 100 or so miles on the new oil in the last week. Should I change out to fully synthetic ASAP or would it be OK to leave in until the next main service in 2 months time? What are the issues with this - could it cause damage to my engine? Any advice appreciated. Martin Last edited by dieselnewbie; 16th April 2011 at 12:39.

16th April 2011, 12:17	#3 (permalink)
dieselnewbie Thread starter Car: 2006 2.2d ES silver Join Date: 13th April 2011 Location: London, UK Posts: 15 Thanks given: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Dealer now saying that whilst it says Mobil S 10W40 on the sales invoice, that they actually used Elf Evolution SXR 5W40 fully synthetic! How can I tell that this really is the case? Will just have to get it changed out by Honda next month for peace of mind anyway. Last edited by dieselnewbie; 16th April 2011 at 12:34.

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16th April 2011, 11:57	#2 (permalink)
coste1l Supporter Car: 09 Suzuki Swift Sport white Join Date: 16th January 2010 Location: Sunderland UK Posts: 18,209 Thanks given: 1,186 Thanked 2,047 Times in 1,932 Posts iTrader: (15)	Take it back buddy!

16th April 2011, 12:44	#4 (permalink)
loud_pedal Car: 2006 CTEX Join Date: 20th March 2011 Location: geographically dispaced Posts: 64 Thanks given: 3 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts iTrader: (0)	I'm not surprised they said that. It was the first thing that entered my head when I read Coste1l. That's still the wrong oil though. I'd insist they change it. Not from an iPhone

16th April 2011, 12:45	#5 (permalink)
JohnnyBoy Angry cat says NO Join Date: 11th October 2010 Location: Wallasey, UK Posts: 3,552 Thanks given: 813 Thanked 413 Times in 331 Posts iTrader: (3)	Tell them you don't care what they say, you want the oil changed to be on the safe side as that is what it says on their invoice. I'd tell them you want to be there when you do it too.

16th April 2011, 13:40	#7 (permalink)
dieselnewbie Thread starter Car: 2006 2.2d ES silver Join Date: 13th April 2011 Location: London, UK Posts: 15 Thanks given: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Thanks for the replies guys - will get it changed out to Castrol 0W30 next week.

16th April 2011, 13:47	#8 (permalink)
JohnnyBoy Angry cat says NO Join Date: 11th October 2010 Location: Wallasey, UK Posts: 3,552 Thanks given: 813 Thanked 413 Times in 331 Posts iTrader: (3)	Don't take any crap for them, they should be more careful with what they put on their invoices in future. Like I said, insist on being there when they do it too, make sure they don't stiff you on it.

17th April 2011, 21:35	#9 (permalink)
Alpha The flying Dutchman Car: 2007 2.2 I-CTDI Sport Join Date: 23rd March 2010 Location: Noordwijk, NL Posts: 948 Thanks given: 54 Thanked 56 Times in 56 Posts iTrader: (4)	Honda filled mine up with havoline 5w30 energy

17th April 2011, 22:02	#11 (permalink)
Alpha The flying Dutchman Car: 2007 2.2 I-CTDI Sport Join Date: 23rd March 2010 Location: Noordwijk, NL Posts: 948 Thanks given: 54 Thanked 56 Times in 56 Posts iTrader: (4)	thought so to but i thought that Honda knows what they are doing, but im at the dealer wednesday so ill pop the question

17th April 2011, 22:12	#12 (permalink)
pup Join Date: 6th November 2010 Location: Honolulul Posts: 10 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	castrol longtec 0w30 is what my dealer puts in and there is abouyt 10 stickers throughout the car to remind me of the correct oil, as well as a leaflet in the handbook. even castrol website recomends 0w30. dont take ***** from untrustworthy dealers. demand demand and demand..

18th April 2011, 22:51	#13 (permalink)
Alpha The flying Dutchman Car: 2007 2.2 I-CTDI Sport Join Date: 23rd March 2010 Location: Noordwijk, NL Posts: 948 Thanks given: 54 Thanked 56 Times in 56 Posts iTrader: (4)	checked the manual, it says 5w30 or 0w30 (0w30 is a must under -20 celcius which it doesnt get here..)

18th April 2011, 23:16	#15 (permalink)
F6HAD Car: 2012 F10 BMW 520D Join Date: 23rd January 2010 Location: Halifax, UK Posts: 1,024 Thanks given: 78 Thanked 130 Times in 120 Posts iTrader: (0)	That Wiki is very useful - and yes as everyone else has said if you care about your engine just change it for 0w/30 asap.

19th April 2011, 11:19	#16 (permalink)
Alpha The flying Dutchman Car: 2007 2.2 I-CTDI Sport Join Date: 23rd March 2010 Location: Noordwijk, NL Posts: 948 Thanks given: 54 Thanked 56 Times in 56 Posts iTrader: (4)	Will tell em tomorrow then! so they can change it while lowering vic

19th April 2011, 19:00	#17 (permalink)
dieselnewbie Thread starter Car: 2006 2.2d ES silver Join Date: 13th April 2011 Location: London, UK Posts: 15 Thanks given: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Checked with my local Honda dealer also and they are using Mobil 1 0W30. What's the opinion on it? Is Castrol Edge 0W30 better?

19th April 2011, 19:02	#18 (permalink)
dieselnewbie Thread starter Car: 2006 2.2d ES silver Join Date: 13th April 2011 Location: London, UK Posts: 15 Thanks given: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Also should the engine be filled to the max mark on the dipstick in the 2.2 or is it OK mid-way between? Thanks in advance

19th April 2011, 19:13	#19 (permalink)
coste1l Supporter Car: 09 Suzuki Swift Sport white Join Date: 16th January 2010 Location: Sunderland UK Posts: 18,209 Thanks given: 1,186 Thanked 2,047 Times in 1,932 Posts iTrader: (15)	to the max and mobil 1 is spot on

19th April 2011, 19:37	#20 (permalink)
JohnnyBoy Angry cat says NO Join Date: 11th October 2010 Location: Wallasey, UK Posts: 3,552 Thanks given: 813 Thanked 413 Times in 331 Posts iTrader: (3)	As long as it's 0w30 fully synthetic then you can't go wrong really. So are the garage going to change the oil free?