Exhaust Exhaust trims?

Naresh · 22nd July 2007, 10:33

Hi I noticed a couple of new civics yesterday and both had the the triangular exhaust outlets blocked off, am I right to assume that these models were the 1.4DSi and that every other model including the 2.2 diesel have conventional rear facing exhausts?

It got me thinking that Honda did not use particle filters in the exhausts like on the new BMW 335d which prevents the need to point them towards the ground.

St3ph3n · 22nd July 2007, 11:50

Yeah, the 1.4's don't have the fancy twin triangular exhausts

1.8 and 2.2 have them. I thought Honda did use a particle filter in the 2.2 iCTDI?

Brodick · 22nd July 2007, 13:12

the 1.8's exhausts fit into the triangular exhaust trim
the 2.2's exhausts have the bend in them that all diesel's have and have a small tube attached to them and attached to the triangular exhause trim
and the 1.4's can have the triangular exhause trim as an option but

Think that is right - someone might correct me tho

WavyD · 22nd July 2007, 15:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brodick

the 1.8's exhausts fit into the triangular exhaust trim
the 2.2's exhausts have the bend in them that all diesel's have and have a small tube attached to them and attached to the triangular exhause trim
and the 1.4's can have the triangular exhause trim as an option but

Think that is right - someone might correct me tho

Interesting observation. I know the 1.4 has them as a non-functional style option and that some models have a different size of triangle (some being longer than others). But I didn't realise that the 2.2 still had the downward bend.

Is the exhaust output of the 2.2 all diverted through to triangle, or does some gas escape towards the ground in say a 50:50 split ?

If all of the gas does get diverted through the triangle, what function does the bend have other than stopping the exhaust condensate from dripping from the fancy triangle and down the bodywork?

robbo51 · 22nd July 2007, 19:10

60:40 on the 2.2 CTDi
The exhaust splits, the smaller pipe through the triangles, the larger pipe bends downwards to direct particulates/smoke under the car

czechplastik · 22nd July 2007, 19:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by robbo51

60:40 on the 2.2 CTDi
The exhaust splits, the smaller pipe through the triangles, the larger pipe bends downwards to direct particulates/smoke under the car

Well said that man, someone also correctly stated that the triangles are inverted on the S + R models, i.e they are turned the other way round.

WavyD · 22nd July 2007, 19:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by robbo51

60:40 on the 2.2 CTDi
The exhaust splits, the smaller pipe through the triangles, the larger pipe bends downwards to direct particulates/smoke under the car

Well I've learned something today! I wondered how they managed to keep the chrome clean on the diesel version. Clever little buggers those designers.

TTDegs · 22nd July 2007, 23:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by czechplastik

Well said that man, someone also correctly stated that the triangles are inverted on the S + R models, i.e they are turned the other way round.

and wider on the S & R too - just a different look though I believe

WoolyCiv · 22nd July 2007, 23:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by czechplastik

the triangles are inverted on the S + R models, i.e they are turned the other way round.

CZ you have had me scratching my head with this statement, I have been looking at other owners cars and comparing them, couldnt see anything different until I visisted the Honda website. Now I know what you mean. They are crossed over left to right and right to left

.

czechplastik · 23rd July 2007, 01:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by WoolyCiv

CZ you have had me scratching my head with this statement, I have been looking at other owners cars and comparing them, couldnt see anything different until I visisted the Honda website. Now I know what you mean. They are crossed over left to right and right to left

.

I didn't notice for a long long time until someone pointed it out to me!

Naresh · 23rd July 2007, 07:39

Thanks guys, some interesting points made there and I also didn't know that the S & R models had inverted exhaust tips compated with the rest of the range.

So Honda didn't fit a particle filter in the pipes but simply split the pipes in two? Neat idea!

FWH · 23rd July 2007, 15:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Naresh

Thanks guys, some interesting points made there and I also didn't know that the S & R models had inverted exhaust tips compated with the rest of the range.

So Honda didn't fit a particle filter in the pipes but simply split the pipes in two? Neat idea!

Does someone have ther pics to prove this?

Ive looked at some and can agree they may be different, but inverted?

Charles_Harding · 23rd July 2007, 16:26

From Siam's post on 12th June.

"It was a perfect marriage.
She didn't want to,
......and he couldn't!"

Charles H.

MC Hammer · 23rd July 2007, 19:45

Not sure of the inverted exhausts there CZ,

just looks like different finishers to me.
Some diesels have a particulate filter but not them all, one of them expensive options.

czechplastik · 23rd July 2007, 19:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by MC Hammer

Not sure of the inverted exhausts there CZ,

just looks like different finishers to me.

I meant the actual triangles themselves MC,

Observe...

MC Hammer · 23rd July 2007, 20:00

Thought that's what you mean't but they are completely a different shape.
It does look like they've swap sides, but not inverted that'd be on a Ford Focus

FWH · 23rd July 2007, 20:07

So they are clearly not just inverted. Its a different shape.

WavyD · 23rd July 2007, 20:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by FWH

So they are clearly not just inverted. Its a different shape.

Slightly elongated, like I said Yesterday at 15:16 ! Some people. What can you do! LOL

czechplastik · 23rd July 2007, 20:23

Get off my case!

FWH · 23rd July 2007, 20:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by czechplastik

Get off my case!

Calm down CZ, its just a geometry discusion.

Oh and the new hot hatch version of the Opel / Vauxhall Corsa has a central triangular exhaust also....
Think of something new yourselves GM!

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St3ph3n Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 8th June 2007 Location: Ireland Posts: 118 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Yeah, the 1.4's don't have the fancy twin triangular exhausts 1.8 and 2.2 have them. I thought Honda did use a particle filter in the 2.2 iCTDI?

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Brodick Perfect Guy! Rocketship door handle Join Date: 2nd December 2006 Location: Central Scotland Posts: 1,829 Thanks: 0 Thanked 12 Times in 11 Posts iTrader: (0)	the 1.8's exhausts fit into the triangular exhaust trim the 2.2's exhausts have the bend in them that all diesel's have and have a small tube attached to them and attached to the triangular exhause trim and the 1.4's can have the triangular exhause trim as an option but Think that is right - someone might correct me tho

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robbo51 It wasn’t me! Civinfo guru Join Date: 1st July 2007 Location: Bingley, W.Yorks Posts: 3,387 Thanks: 57 Thanked 52 Times in 49 Posts iTrader: (0)	60:40 on the 2.2 CTDi The exhaust splits, the smaller pipe through the triangles, the larger pipe bends downwards to direct particulates/smoke under the car

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Naresh Supporter Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 15th July 2007 Location: Essex Posts: 111 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Thanks guys, some interesting points made there and I also didn't know that the S & R models had inverted exhaust tips compated with the rest of the range. So Honda didn't fit a particle filter in the pipes but simply split the pipes in two? Neat idea!

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MC Hammer Kids use a lot of space Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 16th June 2006 Location: UK Posts: 614 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader: (0)	Not sure of the inverted exhausts there CZ, just looks like different finishers to me. Some diesels have a particulate filter but not them all, one of them expensive options.

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MC Hammer Kids use a lot of space Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 16th June 2006 Location: UK Posts: 614 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader: (0)	Thought that's what you mean't but they are completely a different shape. It does look like they've swap sides, but not inverted that'd be on a Ford Focus

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FWH Super Moderator Civinfo master Join Date: 3rd June 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 5,937 Thanks: 14 Thanked 66 Times in 61 Posts iTrader: (0)	So they are clearly not just inverted. Its a different shape.

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czechplastik King of the rodeo Civinfo guru Join Date: 24th October 2006 Location: Belfast Posts: 4,656 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader: (0)	Get off my case!