Clutch Hand has been forced

adsbeau · 11th March 2012, 14:21

My clutch first started slipping about a year ago this only happened occasionally, then it then seemed to stop for months.

Now its back with a vengeance and before it only slipped in 6th now its slipping in 4th and 5th so unfortunately I am going to have to book in at CG

. This also means I am going to have to remap my car otherwise i would be a very sad man. I would preferably get a custom map (RS tuning)but my pennies wont stretch that far so.

1.Do CG do celtic maps?
2. which map available has the most linear curve and holds peak power the longest?

Relic · 11th March 2012, 14:32

You will want the celtic stage 2 to go with that then unfortunately

Sad times

Premier/elite have their stage 2 egr delete which isnt as quick on acceleration AFAIK but doesnt tax the clutch and turbo as much either.
It also deletes the EGR so anythin other than full throttle driving or sub 0c temps will make a noticable difference.
Neither are slow.

TDI have their map which destroy all at low rpm and will tax the clutch the most.
Runs out of breath though unless you have a custom one done.
They do have teething issues with some software versions though.
They are new to diesel tuning.

coste1l · 11th March 2012, 14:37

sad but happy times!

adsbeau · 11th March 2012, 15:03

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Originally Posted by coste1l

sad but happy times!

yep, I need to sort some funds out first.
I think I remember you saying that CG can put the celtic map on when i am there, or am I wrong.

coste1l · 11th March 2012, 15:08

they could at one time, rs tuning are really close and im sure f4had would be able to pay you a visit

F6HAD · 11th March 2012, 15:19

Not sure I agree entirely with Relic's assessment there, but any differences you are talking about when you get to over 190bhp figures are tiny anyway, and once you go from stock to tune, you are looking at a 50bhp+ gain whichver tuner you go with.

We can also custom tune your car in Leeds, but what is there to 'customise' if the car is stock?

We can offer Stage 1 @ 180bhp/285lbft (peak)

Stage 2 @ 192bhp/325lbft (peak) - although some dynos have recorded it now over 350lbft peak.

And AFAIK we are still the only tuner that can offer an EGR OFF solution on these cars.

Drop me a line for prices, we're not far from CG.

adsbeau · 11th March 2012, 16:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by F6HAD

Not sure I agree entirely with Relic's assessment there, but any differences you are talking about when you get to over 190bhp figures are tiny anyway, and once you go from stock to tune, you are looking at a 50bhp+ gain whichver tuner you go with.

We can also custom tune your car in Leeds, but what is there to 'customise' if the car is stock?

We can offer Stage 1 @ 180bhp/285lbft (peak)

Stage 2 @ 192bhp/325lbft (peak) - although some dynos have recorded it now over 350lbft peak.

And AFAIK we are still the only tuner that can offer an EGR OFF solution on these cars.

Drop me a line for prices, we're not far from CG.

I will definitely be considering your maps (stage 2). is the EGR off different again, and what are the benefits.

Trevor7979 · 11th March 2012, 20:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by adsbeau

I will definitely be considering your maps (stage 2). is the EGR off different again, and what are the benefits.

Perhaps I can comment.........

Whilst Elites stage 2 is a peach of a map, bringing in the power in a smooth / controlled way without over spooling the turbo, the ERG delete is worthy of taking a bow all by itself!

What it gives is unheard of part throttle response transforming your reactions when hitting the pedal. (which in real world driving is most of the time!)

Additional benefits are the engine gives further improvements to MPG and power as the inlet intake cleans up breathing clean air.

D_Fizzle · 11th March 2012, 20:12

Anyone got graphs of the power curves for different maps? I'll be looking for one later this year/next (when the insurance companies see I'm no longer young and/or stupid) with a much smoother power delivery. At the moment the torque whack at 2000 rpm is slightly annoying.

elegance · 12th March 2012, 11:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trevor7979

Perhaps I can comment.........

Whilst Elites stage 2 is a peach of a map, bringing in the power in a smooth / controlled way without over spooling the turbo, the ERG delete is worthy of taking a bow all by itself!

What it gives is unheard of part throttle response transforming your reactions when hitting the pedal. (which in real world driving is most of the time!)

Additional benefits are the engine gives further improvements to MPG and power as the inlet intake cleans up breathing clean air.

Yawn!

Banging the drum yet again I see.

They must be paying you commission or if not, they should be!

Steve

Scotty182 · 12th March 2012, 11:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by elegance

Yawn!

Banging the drum yet again I see.

They must be paying you commission or if not, they should be!

Steve

Hahaha

This made me chuckle !

elegance · 13th March 2012, 14:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scotty182

Hahaha

This made me chuckle !

Glad you enjoyed it!

Fair comment though.

Steve

coste1l · 13th March 2012, 14:27

i try to give people their options and tell them how to interpret their options. i could just point out that i still have my map and wouldnt change it but it seems that price drives most decisions

sent from my phone

11th March 2012, 14:21	#1 (permalink)
adsbeau Twisted by the Dark side Car: 2006 2.2 sport, silver Join Date: 18th July 2010 Location: chorley, lancs Uk Posts: 1,110 Thanks given: 59 Thanked 138 Times in 126 Posts iTrader: (2)	Hand has been forced My clutch first started slipping about a year ago this only happened occasionally, then it then seemed to stop for months. Now its back with a vengeance and before it only slipped in 6th now its slipping in 4th and 5th so unfortunately I am going to have to book in at CG . This also means I am going to have to remap my car otherwise i would be a very sad man. I would preferably get a custom map (RS tuning)but my pennies wont stretch that far so. 1.Do CG do celtic maps? 2. which map available has the most linear curve and holds peak power the longest?

11th March 2012, 14:32	#2 (permalink)
Relic Cockup Specialist Car: 2007 2.2 Type 'S' GT, Bronze Join Date: 31st August 2009 Location: uk Posts: 12,134 Thanks given: 735 Thanked 1,450 Times in 1,272 Posts iTrader: (0)	You will want the celtic stage 2 to go with that then unfortunately Sad times Premier/elite have their stage 2 egr delete which isnt as quick on acceleration AFAIK but doesnt tax the clutch and turbo as much either. It also deletes the EGR so anythin other than full throttle driving or sub 0c temps will make a noticable difference. Neither are slow. TDI have their map which destroy all at low rpm and will tax the clutch the most. Runs out of breath though unless you have a custom one done. They do have teething issues with some software versions though. They are new to diesel tuning. Last edited by Relic; 11th March 2012 at 14:41.

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coste1l Supporter Car: 09 Suzuki Swift Sport white Join Date: 16th January 2010 Location: Sunderland UK Posts: 17,849 Thanks given: 1,109 Thanked 1,976 Times in 1,867 Posts iTrader: (15)	they could at one time, rs tuning are really close and im sure f4had would be able to pay you a visit

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F6HAD Car: 2012 F10 BMW 520D Join Date: 23rd January 2010 Location: Halifax, UK Posts: 1,024 Thanks given: 78 Thanked 130 Times in 120 Posts iTrader: (0)	Not sure I agree entirely with Relic's assessment there, but any differences you are talking about when you get to over 190bhp figures are tiny anyway, and once you go from stock to tune, you are looking at a 50bhp+ gain whichver tuner you go with. We can also custom tune your car in Leeds, but what is there to 'customise' if the car is stock? We can offer Stage 1 @ 180bhp/285lbft (peak) Stage 2 @ 192bhp/325lbft (peak) - although some dynos have recorded it now over 350lbft peak. And AFAIK we are still the only tuner that can offer an EGR OFF solution on these cars. Drop me a line for prices, we're not far from CG.

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D_Fizzle Car: 2006 2.2 SE Alabaster Silver Join Date: 10th May 2011 Location: Lancashire Posts: 184 Thanks given: 27 Thanked 20 Times in 19 Posts iTrader: (0)	Anyone got graphs of the power curves for different maps? I'll be looking for one later this year/next (when the insurance companies see I'm no longer young and/or stupid) with a much smoother power delivery. At the moment the torque whack at 2000 rpm is slightly annoying.

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coste1l Supporter Car: 09 Suzuki Swift Sport white Join Date: 16th January 2010 Location: Sunderland UK Posts: 17,849 Thanks given: 1,109 Thanked 1,976 Times in 1,867 Posts iTrader: (15)	i try to give people their options and tell them how to interpret their options. i could just point out that i still have my map and wouldnt change it but it seems that price drives most decisions sent from my phone