Faults Smoke On Start up?

jme1978 · 5th May 2006, 18:41

Anyone with a Diesel get any smoke from the back on start up?

On mine, if the car has been left cold for a while I get a small cloud of smokey fumes! I get nothing whilst driving. I've taken it back to the dealer and they had a look and found nothing - they just updated the engine management.

Anyone get anything similar?

J

Pottsy · 5th May 2006, 18:44

Not a whisp on mine....

Hartside · 5th May 2006, 23:51

Nothing on mine either. Clean as a whistle

elfa7 · 10th May 2006, 09:38

During the first week of ownership, in February, it puffed out smoke on start-up.

Seems o.k now, not a sign of smoke.

jme1978 · 18th July 2006, 18:49

Hello again!

I'm still having problems with this. The dealer can't find anything wrong - yet it looks like a 25 year old banger when I start it up!! It went in of an 'overnight' test - yet when they put it on the MOT emmissions test they found nothing - I also suspect they started it up first to take it into the garage and then tested it ****ing dopes - as he asked me to bring it in for an 'overnight' test when he found nothin!!!

I'm getting fairly big clouds of white smoke that smells of burning! Any ideas?? The longer I leave it, the bigger the cloud.

J

elfa7 · 18th July 2006, 19:03

No sign of any smoke at anytime.

Pottsy · 18th July 2006, 20:44

Could you video it - to show the dealer? Really is not right, still nothing on mine. Smoke on start up on a turbo car is normally a weak oil seal in the turbo - in itself it's not a problem (apart from the embarrasing smoke) but again normally it indicates that the oil seal is faulty and that it hasn't got long to live. When the seal fails, the turbo will continue for about half a second....

Kpow99 · 18th July 2006, 21:58

Can't say I have noticed any, but then again I can't reach the start button with my head in the exhaust

MC Hammer · 18th July 2006, 22:01

Nothing from mine either (except on cold frosty mornings last winter).
Best have it looked at, and check your engine oil just in case.

basegreen · 19th July 2006, 21:48

I've split the bassworks stuff out

Jme: I filmed the smoke on my phone when I started it up to leave the garage - didn't get to the back in time to catch it though to get good enough film on my camera!

I'm going back on Friday when they are changing my rear right side shock absorber - so I'll film it every morning and forcibly tell him to check the f'in turbo.

Kpow99 · 19th July 2006, 21:50

GJ C mate.

basegreen · 19th July 2006, 21:52

I have no way of recreating part of the OPs post, so I added it above.

I think that's a lot better now - thread creep is okay to a point, but that was literally two threads in one

jme1978 · 21st July 2006, 19:37

Here is a quick video of it starting this morning. It gets worse the longer you leave it - so I'll do it again on Monday when its been sat on the drive for a few days.

J

Pottsy · 21st July 2006, 19:44

That actually doesn't look too bad (not perfect, of course). When I started my Audi, the whole car vanished.

Dare I mention this..... I wonder how well the car was treated by its previous users (it was a demo car, wasn't it?) Snag is, that while it all still works fine, there's little reason for the dealer to go about fixing it.

Look forward to the next vid - and I'll have a look at mine from the rear next cold start.

elfa7 · 21st July 2006, 20:18

I had a Golf that smoked during a downchange with the dsg. But I would'nt be happy with my Civic if it smoked like that, especially in this weather, even with a cold start. I don't think any of the other Civic diesels on the Forum smoke either. I think you have a problem.

MC Hammer · 21st July 2006, 20:38

Definately something wrong there, get the dealer to sort it; that's what the warranty's for isn't it?
It might be ok at the moment but probably go wrong later in life; or when you sell it (it's always done that) would cause buyers to walk away.

richierich · 22nd July 2006, 10:20

I had a 306 had similar coloured smoke, but far more of it on start up, I think the 306 had an issue with either the intercooler or turbo and oil was dripping into one of the cylinders over night and then puffed like mad in the morning. Is it rough when starting cold, or relatively smooth.

elfa7 · 28th July 2006, 18:48

Richie, what is the dealer? doing about the smokey start-up ?.

jme1978 · 16th August 2006, 00:15

Update!!

Haven't been able to get a decent video of the start up for a while but today the oil light came on only 2 months after it was filled up! Goin in on Thursday for an overnight stay - fingers crossed they will sort it out.

J

elfa7 · 16th August 2006, 17:02

I think yours is the only diesel of all the Forum members, that smokes on start-up. So its pretty safe to say yours has a problem, and I think they will put it right under warranty.

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5th May 2006, 18:44	#2 (permalink)
Pottsy Administrator Civinfo master Join Date: 10th April 2006 Location: Leics Posts: 5,090 Thanks: 18 Thanked 111 Times in 64 Posts iTrader: (0)	Not a whisp on mine....

5th May 2006, 23:51	#3 (permalink)
Hartside Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 4th May 2006 Location: Northumberland Posts: 558 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Nothing on mine either. Clean as a whistle

10th May 2006, 09:38	#4 (permalink)
elfa7 Supporter Rocketship door handle Join Date: 8th May 2006 Location: Cheshire Posts: 1,703 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	During the first week of ownership, in February, it puffed out smoke on start-up. Seems o.k now, not a sign of smoke.

18th July 2006, 18:49	#5 (permalink)
jme1978 Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 29th April 2006 Location: Cheshire Posts: 211 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Hello again! I'm still having problems with this. The dealer can't find anything wrong - yet it looks like a 25 year old banger when I start it up!! It went in of an 'overnight' test - yet when they put it on the MOT emmissions test they found nothing - I also suspect they started it up first to take it into the garage and then tested it ****ing dopes - as he asked me to bring it in for an 'overnight' test when he found nothin!!! I'm getting fairly big clouds of white smoke that smells of burning! Any ideas?? The longer I leave it, the bigger the cloud. J

18th July 2006, 19:03	#6 (permalink)
elfa7 Supporter Rocketship door handle Join Date: 8th May 2006 Location: Cheshire Posts: 1,703 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	No sign of any smoke at anytime.

18th July 2006, 20:44	#7 (permalink)
Pottsy Administrator Civinfo master Join Date: 10th April 2006 Location: Leics Posts: 5,090 Thanks: 18 Thanked 111 Times in 64 Posts iTrader: (0)	Could you video it - to show the dealer? Really is not right, still nothing on mine. Smoke on start up on a turbo car is normally a weak oil seal in the turbo - in itself it's not a problem (apart from the embarrasing smoke) but again normally it indicates that the oil seal is faulty and that it hasn't got long to live. When the seal fails, the turbo will continue for about half a second....

18th July 2006, 21:58	#8 (permalink)
Kpow99 Explosive Mind Unleashed Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 5th May 2006 Location: London Posts: 535 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Can't say I have noticed any, but then again I can't reach the start button with my head in the exhaust

18th July 2006, 22:01	#9 (permalink)
MC Hammer Kids use a lot of space Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 16th June 2006 Location: UK Posts: 608 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader: (0)	Nothing from mine either (except on cold frosty mornings last winter). Best have it looked at, and check your engine oil just in case.

19th July 2006, 21:48	#10 (permalink)
basegreen Super Moderator Civinfo guru Join Date: 15th April 2006 Location: noitacoL Posts: 2,870 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts iTrader: (0)	I've split the bassworks stuff out Jme: I filmed the smoke on my phone when I started it up to leave the garage - didn't get to the back in time to catch it though to get good enough film on my camera! I'm going back on Friday when they are changing my rear right side shock absorber - so I'll film it every morning and forcibly tell him to check the f'in turbo.

19th July 2006, 21:50	#11 (permalink)
Kpow99 Explosive Mind Unleashed Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 5th May 2006 Location: London Posts: 535 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	GJ C mate.

19th July 2006, 21:52	#12 (permalink)
basegreen Super Moderator Civinfo guru Join Date: 15th April 2006 Location: noitacoL Posts: 2,870 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts iTrader: (0)	I have no way of recreating part of the OPs post, so I added it above. I think that's a lot better now - thread creep is okay to a point, but that was literally two threads in one

21st July 2006, 19:37	#13 (permalink)
jme1978 Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 29th April 2006 Location: Cheshire Posts: 211 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Here is a quick video of it starting this morning. It gets worse the longer you leave it - so I'll do it again on Monday when its been sat on the drive for a few days. J

21st July 2006, 19:44	#14 (permalink)
Pottsy Administrator Civinfo master Join Date: 10th April 2006 Location: Leics Posts: 5,090 Thanks: 18 Thanked 111 Times in 64 Posts iTrader: (0)	That actually doesn't look too bad (not perfect, of course). When I started my Audi, the whole car vanished. Dare I mention this..... I wonder how well the car was treated by its previous users (it was a demo car, wasn't it?) Snag is, that while it all still works fine, there's little reason for the dealer to go about fixing it. Look forward to the next vid - and I'll have a look at mine from the rear next cold start.

21st July 2006, 20:18	#15 (permalink)
elfa7 Supporter Rocketship door handle Join Date: 8th May 2006 Location: Cheshire Posts: 1,703 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	I had a Golf that smoked during a downchange with the dsg. But I would'nt be happy with my Civic if it smoked like that, especially in this weather, even with a cold start. I don't think any of the other Civic diesels on the Forum smoke either. I think you have a problem.

21st July 2006, 20:38	#16 (permalink)
MC Hammer Kids use a lot of space Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 16th June 2006 Location: UK Posts: 608 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader: (0)	Definately something wrong there, get the dealer to sort it; that's what the warranty's for isn't it? It might be ok at the moment but probably go wrong later in life; or when you sell it (it's always done that) would cause buyers to walk away.

22nd July 2006, 10:20	#17 (permalink)
richierich Smell My Cheese! Rocketship door handle Join Date: 17th May 2006 Location: Bicester, Oxfordshire Posts: 1,847 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	I had a 306 had similar coloured smoke, but far more of it on start up, I think the 306 had an issue with either the intercooler or turbo and oil was dripping into one of the cylinders over night and then puffed like mad in the morning. Is it rough when starting cold, or relatively smooth.

28th July 2006, 18:48	#18 (permalink)
elfa7 Supporter Rocketship door handle Join Date: 8th May 2006 Location: Cheshire Posts: 1,703 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Richie, what is the dealer? doing about the smokey start-up ?.

16th August 2006, 00:15	#19 (permalink)
jme1978 Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 29th April 2006 Location: Cheshire Posts: 211 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Update!! Haven't been able to get a decent video of the start up for a while but today the oil light came on only 2 months after it was filled up! Goin in on Thursday for an overnight stay - fingers crossed they will sort it out. J

16th August 2006, 17:02	#20 (permalink)
elfa7 Supporter Rocketship door handle Join Date: 8th May 2006 Location: Cheshire Posts: 1,703 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	I think yours is the only diesel of all the Forum members, that smokes on start-up. So its pretty safe to say yours has a problem, and I think they will put it right under warranty.