Fuel Diesel Fuel Filter - Beware of Imitations!

steve fox · 4th August 2012, 13:44

A couple of years ago I had my 2.2 serviced by a well known tuning company who are on this forum. I knew at the time that they use non Honda filters unless you specify, but I went along with it anyway. After the service, I had a problem with the car which felt like all the world like sudden fuel starvation, but as no fault codes came up, it was difficult to pinpoint the actual cause. Under flat out acceleration, the car would sometimes give an almighty hiccup - it almost felt like you'd hit the brake pedal. Anyway, I put up with it for ages, as it's not that often that I actually really floor the throttle, to be honest. A couple of months ago, I had the filter changed for a genuine Honda one, and guess what - no hiccups or any fuel starvation problems any more. So beware folks, make sure that all the filters used in servicing are Honda, especially the fuel and air filters.

Grayfox · 4th August 2012, 14:09

If it is the same as hondas i cant see why it would cause issues.

It is like a no name brand being the same as a name brand in the supermarket.

It may be made by the same manufacturer but one is label honda and you pay more cause it is what honda classed as "recommended"

deni.babe · 4th August 2012, 15:13

fuel filter,air filter i always use genuine.

markvirgo · 4th August 2012, 15:40

I would put this down to a single faulty filter not the particular brand of filters.

LincsPoacher · 4th August 2012, 17:04

Lets also not forget that the OP states the filter was changed a couple of years ago. They dont last forever.

F6HAD · 4th August 2012, 18:29

Despite the sceptecism on this and other forums, Honda ICTDI cars DO NOT LIKE ANY OTHER FUEL FILTER, THAN HONDA GENUINE.

I put it in capital, as I really mean it

Trust me we go through this almost on a daily basis on the Accord forum.

And Honda doesn't simply recommend a filter, in many cases they manufacture their own (Oil, Air and Cabin to name a few) and the Bosch and Denso filters that Honda dealers supply are Honda approved.

You can buy Bosch filters from ECP etc but they are not of the same quality.

steve fox · 4th August 2012, 22:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by F6HAD

Despite the sceptecism on this and other forums, Honda ICTDI cars DO NOT LIKE ANY OTHER FUEL FILTER, THAN HONDA GENUINE.

I put it in capital, as I really mean it

Trust me we go through this almost on a daily basis on the Accord forum.

And Honda doesn't simply recommend a filter, in many cases they manufacture their own (Oil, Air and Cabin to name a few) and the Bosch and Denso filters that Honda dealers supply are Honda approved.

You can buy Bosch filters from ECP etc but they are not of the same quality.

Like he said! If you want to chance it, be my guest, I'll never use anything but Honda filters in future.

stoney · 4th August 2012, 22:57

Even the honda air filter for the type R works the best.

They do research these things

steve fox · 4th August 2012, 23:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by stoney

Even the honda air filter for the type R works the best.

They do research these things

And you only have to look at all the research that Relic has done on the 2.2 air box and filter element to realise that the OEM design is unbeatable for performance. In view of the fact that the fuel filter is such a pig to change, I'll never bother to save a few quid in the future.

steve fox · 4th August 2012, 23:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by LincsPoacher

Lets also not forget that the OP states the filter was changed a couple of years ago. They dont last forever.

The fault was evident from the time that the non OEM filter was fitted, so deterioration was not an issue.

deni.babe · 5th August 2012, 00:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by steve fox

The fault was evident from the time that the non OEM filter was fitted, so deterioration was not an issue.

this is why i buy original parts and get them fitted at my trusted garage least this way your covered by the 12 months warranty on genuine parts, for the sake of a few quid more why compromise.

F6HAD · 5th August 2012, 00:36

yep a receipt for genuine parts with a stamp from a vat registered garage is worth much more than a dealer stamp with no paperwork to back it up in my opinion.

deni.babe · 5th August 2012, 00:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by F6HAD

yep a receipt for genuine parts with a stamp from a vat registered garage is worth much more than a dealer stamp with no paperwork to back it up in my opinion.

f6had +1

steve fox · 5th August 2012, 00:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by deni.babe

f6had +1

+2

LincsPoacher · 5th August 2012, 09:43

lesson learnt, thats the good thing about Civinfo.

Relic · 5th August 2012, 12:26

+11
Nothing but genuine honda filters for me.
Even supposedly good brands are no comparison.

4th August 2012, 13:44	#1 (permalink)
steve fox Supporter Car: 2008 2.2 SE Blueish Silver Join Date: 5th June 2009 Location: Bingham, South Notts Posts: 601 Thanks given: 3 Thanked 42 Times in 38 Posts iTrader: (1)	Diesel Fuel Filter - Beware of Imitations! A couple of years ago I had my 2.2 serviced by a well known tuning company who are on this forum. I knew at the time that they use non Honda filters unless you specify, but I went along with it anyway. After the service, I had a problem with the car which felt like all the world like sudden fuel starvation, but as no fault codes came up, it was difficult to pinpoint the actual cause. Under flat out acceleration, the car would sometimes give an almighty hiccup - it almost felt like you'd hit the brake pedal. Anyway, I put up with it for ages, as it's not that often that I actually really floor the throttle, to be honest. A couple of months ago, I had the filter changed for a genuine Honda one, and guess what - no hiccups or any fuel starvation problems any more. So beware folks, make sure that all the filters used in servicing are Honda, especially the fuel and air filters.

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Grayfox Most Active Australian Car: 2010 Black Civic Si FK2 Join Date: 1st February 2012 Location: NSW, Australia Posts: 2,988 Thanks given: 67 Thanked 275 Times in 260 Posts iTrader: (0)	If it is the same as hondas i cant see why it would cause issues. It is like a no name brand being the same as a name brand in the supermarket. It may be made by the same manufacturer but one is label honda and you pay more cause it is what honda classed as "recommended"

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deni.babe loads of grunt Car: 08 2.2 type s gt blsilverish Join Date: 7th February 2010 Location: tettenhall ,wolverhampton Posts: 2,125 Thanks given: 220 Thanked 338 Times in 312 Posts iTrader: (7)	fuel filter,air filter i always use genuine.

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markvirgo Type EX,A guy called Mark Car: 2006 1.8, Alabaster Silver Join Date: 22nd June 2007 Location: Northamptonshire Posts: 1,979 Thanks given: 97 Thanked 328 Times in 281 Posts iTrader: (11)	I would put this down to a single faulty filter not the particular brand of filters.

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LincsPoacher Supporter Car: 2009 2.2 EX GT Milano Red Join Date: 20th December 2011 Location: Lincolnshire Posts: 969 Thanks given: 47 Thanked 127 Times in 122 Posts iTrader: (2)	Lets also not forget that the OP states the filter was changed a couple of years ago. They dont last forever.

4th August 2012, 18:29	#6 (permalink)
F6HAD Car: 2012 F10 BMW 520D Join Date: 23rd January 2010 Location: Halifax, UK Posts: 1,024 Thanks given: 78 Thanked 130 Times in 120 Posts iTrader: (0)	Despite the sceptecism on this and other forums, Honda ICTDI cars DO NOT LIKE ANY OTHER FUEL FILTER, THAN HONDA GENUINE. I put it in capital, as I really mean it Trust me we go through this almost on a daily basis on the Accord forum. And Honda doesn't simply recommend a filter, in many cases they manufacture their own (Oil, Air and Cabin to name a few) and the Bosch and Denso filters that Honda dealers supply are Honda approved. You can buy Bosch filters from ECP etc but they are not of the same quality.

4th August 2012, 22:57	#8 (permalink)
stoney Supporter Car: 2007 FN2 GT Join Date: 24th March 2010 Location: lisburn Posts: 7,168 Thanks given: 159 Thanked 1,074 Times in 911 Posts iTrader: (9)	Even the honda air filter for the type R works the best. They do research these things

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F6HAD Car: 2012 F10 BMW 520D Join Date: 23rd January 2010 Location: Halifax, UK Posts: 1,024 Thanks given: 78 Thanked 130 Times in 120 Posts iTrader: (0)	yep a receipt for genuine parts with a stamp from a vat registered garage is worth much more than a dealer stamp with no paperwork to back it up in my opinion.

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LincsPoacher Supporter Car: 2009 2.2 EX GT Milano Red Join Date: 20th December 2011 Location: Lincolnshire Posts: 969 Thanks given: 47 Thanked 127 Times in 122 Posts iTrader: (2)	lesson learnt, thats the good thing about Civinfo.

5th August 2012, 12:26	#16 (permalink)
Relic Cockup Specialist Car: 2007 2.2 Type 'S' GT, Bronze Join Date: 31st August 2009 Location: uk Posts: 12,154 Thanks given: 737 Thanked 1,453 Times in 1,275 Posts iTrader: (0)	+11 Nothing but genuine honda filters for me. Even supposedly good brands are no comparison.