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ChillTypeS · 17th September 2007, 19:55

My diesel type s gt arrives in a few weeks. I just wonderd what were peoples opinions off the diesel engine. I did a test drive but cant really remember. Do people think its quiet and refined. I am comming from a seat ibiza tdi and found the engine very rough and noisy.

Thanks

robbo51 · 17th September 2007, 19:59

Very smooth and different in its power delivery.
I too have come from a TDi engine.

Anastie · 17th September 2007, 20:07

I get my CTDi this week but compared to previous diesels I have owned such as BMW and a Skoda vRS. The civic feels smooth and well powered.

ChillTypeS · 17th September 2007, 20:27

What about the noise on startup and on the move?

illegalhunter · 17th September 2007, 20:30

Remap the ECU for the full potential of the engine

Pottsy · 17th September 2007, 23:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChillTypeS

What about the noise on startup and on the move?

Relax - you'll love it.

When cold there is a tiny amount of clatter on start up, which goes after a few seconds. After that it just is totally smooth with a mild whistle.

TTDegs · 17th September 2007, 23:38

yep - 5 seconds after you start it, the only indication that you're driving a diesel is that the red line is at 4.5K revs

well - that and the effortless power. and great mpg.

have you worked out I like it?

freddo1 · 17th September 2007, 23:48

Had a 2.2 cdti sport for 5 days now after a lifetime of petrol engines, the thump in the back you get around 2,000 rpm when the turbo kicks in is great. I do miss the growl and the twin power band of my modded DOHC Civic Si, then I think about the economy (28 vs 48 mpg ish) and the thought is just nostalgic

czechplastik · 18th September 2007, 13:06

I also have experience of VW TDI's and the Honda 2.2 is far superior, much smoother and linier in terms of power delivery.

It's great

JohnH · 18th September 2007, 13:35

I have the VAG 170PS TDi PD in my Audi and the 2.2 i-CDTi in my wife's Civic is a far more refined engine imho, I guess it sounds a little 'peculiar' (but muted) in terms of whistles and 'whirring' noises but not like a diesel, even when cold.

The power delivery in the Honda is much more progressive, the VAG unit has nothing below 2000rpm (at which point 'all hell breaks loose') and it is easy to get caught without enough power (at junctions) whereas the Honda unit pulls cleanly from low revs.

Finally there's the economy, the Honda (admittedly in a smaller car) delivers at least 8mpg more in any road conditions without the need to resort to an 'economy' driving style.

You won't be disappointed after the VAG unit in your Seat.

cylon2007 · 18th September 2007, 14:30

I also had a VAG diesel (130 TDI Sport 4motion Passat) before the Civic, the Honda engine is much better in all ways, quieter, smoother, better pick up, more linear power delivery etc etc. The VAG unit is good but does sound like a tractor against the Civic.

TTDegs · 18th September 2007, 15:53

Prior to my 3.2 TT, I'd have 2 1.9TDi Audis - an A3 and an A4.

Both engines were good - but the Civ is without doubt better

czechplastik · 18th September 2007, 16:25

I have experience of a VW 1.9 fitted in an octavia, its not bad but the 2.2 is far superior. It can be noisy at times in the Skoda.

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robbo51 It's my fault! Civinfo guru Join Date: 1st July 2007 Location: Bingley, W.Yorks Posts: 3,780 Thanks: 65 Thanked 71 Times in 68 Posts iTrader: (0)	Very smooth and different in its power delivery. I too have come from a TDi engine.

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Anastie Valve Cap Join Date: 16th September 2007 Location: Northumberland Posts: 43 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	I get my CTDi this week but compared to previous diesels I have owned such as BMW and a Skoda vRS. The civic feels smooth and well powered.

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ChillTypeS Valve Cap Join Date: 12th September 2007 Location: middlesbrough Posts: 26 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	What about the noise on startup and on the move?

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illegalhunter Hunting in the USA 08 Civinfo guru Join Date: 10th May 2007 Location: 7 days Till hunting season 08 Posts: 3,129 Thanks: 6 Thanked 38 Times in 37 Posts iTrader: (0)	Remap the ECU for the full potential of the engine

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TTDegs Super Moderator Civinfo master Join Date: 4th August 2006 Location: Cardiff Posts: 5,634 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader: (0)	yep - 5 seconds after you start it, the only indication that you're driving a diesel is that the red line is at 4.5K revs well - that and the effortless power. and great mpg. have you worked out I like it?

17th September 2007, 23:48	#8 (permalink)
freddo1 Supporter Wheelnut Join Date: 6th September 2007 Location: Plymouth Posts: 50 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	Had a 2.2 cdti sport for 5 days now after a lifetime of petrol engines, the thump in the back you get around 2,000 rpm when the turbo kicks in is great. I do miss the growl and the twin power band of my modded DOHC Civic Si, then I think about the economy (28 vs 48 mpg ish) and the thought is just nostalgic

18th September 2007, 13:06	#9 (permalink)
czechplastik King of the rodeo Civinfo guru Join Date: 24th October 2006 Location: Belfast Posts: 4,724 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts iTrader: (0)	I also have experience of VW TDI's and the Honda 2.2 is far superior, much smoother and linier in terms of power delivery. It's great

18th September 2007, 13:35	#10 (permalink)
JohnH Valve Cap Join Date: 22nd April 2007 Posts: 29 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: (0)	I have the VAG 170PS TDi PD in my Audi and the 2.2 i-CDTi in my wife's Civic is a far more refined engine imho, I guess it sounds a little 'peculiar' (but muted) in terms of whistles and 'whirring' noises but not like a diesel, even when cold. The power delivery in the Honda is much more progressive, the VAG unit has nothing below 2000rpm (at which point 'all hell breaks loose') and it is easy to get caught without enough power (at junctions) whereas the Honda unit pulls cleanly from low revs. Finally there's the economy, the Honda (admittedly in a smaller car) delivers at least 8mpg more in any road conditions without the need to resort to an 'economy' driving style. You won't be disappointed after the VAG unit in your Seat.

18th September 2007, 14:30	#11 (permalink)
cylon2007 Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 14th April 2007 Location: South Manchester/North Cheshire Posts: 559 Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts iTrader: (0)	I also had a VAG diesel (130 TDI Sport 4motion Passat) before the Civic, the Honda engine is much better in all ways, quieter, smoother, better pick up, more linear power delivery etc etc. The VAG unit is good but does sound like a tractor against the Civic.

18th September 2007, 15:53	#12 (permalink)
TTDegs Super Moderator Civinfo master Join Date: 4th August 2006 Location: Cardiff Posts: 5,634 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader: (0)	Prior to my 3.2 TT, I'd have 2 1.9TDi Audis - an A3 and an A4. Both engines were good - but the Civ is without doubt better

18th September 2007, 16:25	#13 (permalink)
czechplastik King of the rodeo Civinfo guru Join Date: 24th October 2006 Location: Belfast Posts: 4,724 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts iTrader: (0)	I have experience of a VW 1.9 fitted in an octavia, its not bad but the 2.2 is far superior. It can be noisy at times in the Skoda.