Clutch Try of Gc clutch

mark2390 · 19th September 2012, 22:51

Wonder if someone can let me see how bad this judder is on the cg clutch, I have a custom remap 6 months ago and had it limited to make the clutch last as long as possible but now is starting to slip after 5000 miles. Just wanting to see how bad it is for myself!? Or other options I have! Thanks

Andy@CG-Motorsport · 24th September 2012, 16:09

CG & Map Update

Hi Mark try this from one of our customers. Let me know directly if you need anymore help.

mark2390 · 25th September 2012, 03:44

Hi thanks, just a question will I need a dmf with it I've got 58000 miles on the car or will I be ok just with the clutch?.. Is the cost still £810 with dmf? Thanks

Andy@CG-Motorsport · 25th September 2012, 10:14

No problem, you may not need the flywheel but it will have done the same miles as the clutch. The labour is a lot of the cost and it doesn't make good economy to take a broken clutch out now at a labour cost of £200-250 to pay someone again to do the flywheel 3 months later when the whole job should be the same cost. I hope this makes sense.

The cost is
£380 for the flywheel, £345 -399 depending on the number of paddles for the clutch.

coste1l · 25th September 2012, 10:17

I know this from experience

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mark2390 · 25th September 2012, 14:52

Ok,so cost around £900-950?... Think it's on it's way out tho, it will slip then won't for a few days or even weeks then starts again!

Cowboyjon · 25th September 2012, 15:21

I'm curious about this too, but don't know anyone anywhere close with one fitted to give me a quick try before committing.

For me it's too much of a gamble, big risk of making the car unenjoyable to drive around real world roads and a big hit in the pocket too especially if it doesnt work out and you want it removed and replaced with a standard item again.

hondafan2636 · 25th September 2012, 15:54

Can I just say a welcome to Andy from CG. I know its a bit late but hey. It is good to have someone from the company active on the site so we can get information and updates. I have kept eyes on most of the threads with tweeking the 2.2 drev as I might end up changing my IMA next year and as my mileage could be hugley incresing was thinking about maybe getting a drev, Would deff be getting tweeked with it as now my Teg has been fully done as my toy for about 2 years now missing the tweeky side of things. Requested a 2.2 once as a courstey car when IMA was in for service as had read so many good things about the engine but never driven one. I was really impressed by it. It was always a concern to me tho that once you started to tweek things that certain parts of the transmission could not cope. It would be good to maybe start getting some flywheel upgrades to go with the clutches. I wounder if Honda did any parts upgrading for the Accord Type S? Still good to hear things might be coming out.
Keep up the R&D CG.

Jon_G · 25th September 2012, 17:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cowboyjon

...For me it's too much of a gamble, big risk of making the car unenjoyable to drive around real world roads and a big hit in the pocket too especially if it doesnt work out and you want it removed and replaced with a standard item again...

Or, when you eventually try to sell the car, having to say "no, it's not faulty, it's a performance clutch, honest!" to potential buyers.

Cowboyjon · 25th September 2012, 17:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon_G

Or, when you eventually try to sell the car, having to say "no, it's not faulty, it's a performance clutch, honest!" to potential buyers.

Yeah, that too.

Joe public would think you were taking the total piss and walk away.

Jon_G · 25th September 2012, 17:58

But, to be a little more positive, it's good to see that CG are continuing to develop performance clutch systems for the i-CTDi. One day, when hopefully the judder/on-off issues have improved, then I will (at last) get my slippy clutch dealt with... then get myself a decent remap!!!

Caddyroo · 25th September 2012, 18:14

Yes need to bring out a decent clutch ! Such a shame the replacement ones are so juddery otherwise wack on the most powerful map ! Haha

mylesjohn · 25th September 2012, 18:52

Hello

I went for the CG clutch and now it is all bedded in (600miles) i am finding it difficult to go from second to third on change down the gear stick is quite stiff to get in gear.

And also the clutch bite point is right near the top is this normal set up when using a paddle clutch.
Before it was installed the bite was just over half way.

Could it be down to the fitting.

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Cowboyjon · 25th September 2012, 20:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by mylesjohn

Hello

I went for the CG clutch and now it is all bedded in (600miles) i am finding it difficult to go from second to third on change down the gear stick is quite stiff to get in gear.

And also the clutch bite point is right near the top is this normal set up when using a paddle clutch.
Before it was installed the bite was just over half way.

Could it be down to the fitting.

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Yet another report of cg clutch problems.

Having read through hours of past threads on the subject, In my mind at least the cg paddle clutch is 100% not the answer to the problem.

coste1l · 25th September 2012, 20:36

I dont think that was fitted properly tbh

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mylesjohn · 25th September 2012, 20:37

Will ring the garage tomorrow and complain and see what they are prepared to do about it.

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mylesjohn · 27th September 2012, 16:24

With everyones focus being on the clutch disc I thought that the pressure plate was the actual week point in the car not the clutch disc material. After time the metal on the clutch plate gets weaker and weaker. I looked into finding just a clutch plate but to no luck.

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scottrtq · 5th October 2012, 21:34

The juddering really isn't that bad. You learn how not to make it judder and when u get it wrong just put the right foot down that bit more. I find that if you drive the car like its a petrol it doesn't judder.

Give it a few more revs when picking away than you would with a standard diesel and you wont get the judder. Having a clutch that can handle the remap makes a judder now and then all worth while.

19th September 2012, 22:51	#1 (permalink)
mark2390 Supporter Car: 2007 2.2 type s gt Join Date: 11th August 2010 Location: st helens Posts: 194 Thanks given: 80 Thanked 43 Times in 38 Posts iTrader: (3)	Try of Cg clutch Wonder if someone can let me see how bad this judder is on the cg clutch, I have a custom remap 6 months ago and had it limited to make the clutch last as long as possible but now is starting to slip after 5000 miles. Just wanting to see how bad it is for myself!? Or other options I have! Thanks Last edited by mark2390; 20th September 2012 at 05:08.

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Andy@CG-Motorsport Join Date: 24th September 2012 Location: Leeds, ENG Posts: 150 Thanks given: 23 Thanked 42 Times in 34 Posts iTrader: (0)	CG & Map Update Hi Mark try this from one of our customers. Let me know directly if you need anymore help.

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mark2390 Supporter Thread starter Car: 2007 2.2 type s gt Join Date: 11th August 2010 Location: st helens Posts: 194 Thanks given: 80 Thanked 43 Times in 38 Posts iTrader: (3)	Hi thanks, just a question will I need a dmf with it I've got 58000 miles on the car or will I be ok just with the clutch?.. Is the cost still £810 with dmf? Thanks

25th September 2012, 10:14	#4 (permalink)
Andy@CG-Motorsport Join Date: 24th September 2012 Location: Leeds, ENG Posts: 150 Thanks given: 23 Thanked 42 Times in 34 Posts iTrader: (0)	No problem, you may not need the flywheel but it will have done the same miles as the clutch. The labour is a lot of the cost and it doesn't make good economy to take a broken clutch out now at a labour cost of £200-250 to pay someone again to do the flywheel 3 months later when the whole job should be the same cost. I hope this makes sense. The cost is £380 for the flywheel, £345 -399 depending on the number of paddles for the clutch.

25th September 2012, 10:17	#5 (permalink)
coste1l Supporter Car: 09 Suzuki Swift Sport white Join Date: 16th January 2010 Location: Sunderland UK Posts: 18,207 Thanks given: 1,185 Thanked 2,046 Times in 1,931 Posts iTrader: (15)	I know this from experience Sent from my GT-N7000 using Tapatalk 2

25th September 2012, 14:52	#6 (permalink)
mark2390 Supporter Thread starter Car: 2007 2.2 type s gt Join Date: 11th August 2010 Location: st helens Posts: 194 Thanks given: 80 Thanked 43 Times in 38 Posts iTrader: (3)	Ok,so cost around £900-950?... Think it's on it's way out tho, it will slip then won't for a few days or even weeks then starts again!

25th September 2012, 15:21	#7 (permalink)
Cowboyjon Supporter Join Date: 12th August 2012 Location: Wishaw Posts: 555 Thanks given: 30 Thanked 67 Times in 62 Posts iTrader: (0)	I'm curious about this too, but don't know anyone anywhere close with one fitted to give me a quick try before committing. For me it's too much of a gamble, big risk of making the car unenjoyable to drive around real world roads and a big hit in the pocket too especially if it doesnt work out and you want it removed and replaced with a standard item again.

25th September 2012, 15:54	#8 (permalink)
hondafan2636 Car: Civic IMA and Teg R Join Date: 12th May 2009 Location: England Posts: 266 Thanks given: 2 Thanked 24 Times in 21 Posts iTrader: (0)	Can I just say a welcome to Andy from CG. I know its a bit late but hey. It is good to have someone from the company active on the site so we can get information and updates. I have kept eyes on most of the threads with tweeking the 2.2 drev as I might end up changing my IMA next year and as my mileage could be hugley incresing was thinking about maybe getting a drev, Would deff be getting tweeked with it as now my Teg has been fully done as my toy for about 2 years now missing the tweeky side of things. Requested a 2.2 once as a courstey car when IMA was in for service as had read so many good things about the engine but never driven one. I was really impressed by it. It was always a concern to me tho that once you started to tweek things that certain parts of the transmission could not cope. It would be good to maybe start getting some flywheel upgrades to go with the clutches. I wounder if Honda did any parts upgrading for the Accord Type S? Still good to hear things might be coming out. Keep up the R&D CG.

25th September 2012, 17:58	#11 (permalink)
Jon_G Goat Fancier Car: 2005 Accord iCTDi Tourer Join Date: 11th May 2012 Location: Ludlow, UK Posts: 990 Thanks given: 65 Thanked 163 Times in 139 Posts iTrader: (0)	But, to be a little more positive, it's good to see that CG are continuing to develop performance clutch systems for the i-CTDi. One day, when hopefully the judder/on-off issues have improved, then I will (at last) get my slippy clutch dealt with... then get myself a decent remap!!!

25th September 2012, 18:14	#12 (permalink)
Caddyroo Supporter Car: 2008 2.2 3 Door Tangerine Join Date: 24th October 2011 Location: Telford UK Posts: 449 Thanks given: 6 Thanked 39 Times in 39 Posts iTrader: (1)	Yes need to bring out a decent clutch ! Such a shame the replacement ones are so juddery otherwise wack on the most powerful map ! Haha

25th September 2012, 18:52	#13 (permalink)
mylesjohn Supporter Car: 2006 2.2 5 door sport silver Join Date: 8th May 2012 Location: calne, wiltshire Posts: 459 Thanks given: 36 Thanked 47 Times in 47 Posts iTrader: (0)	Hello I went for the CG clutch and now it is all bedded in (600miles) i am finding it difficult to go from second to third on change down the gear stick is quite stiff to get in gear. And also the clutch bite point is right near the top is this normal set up when using a paddle clutch. Before it was installed the bite was just over half way. Could it be down to the fitting. Sent from my GT-N7000 using Tapatalk 2 Sent from my GT-N7000 using Tapatalk 2

25th September 2012, 20:36	#15 (permalink)
coste1l Supporter Car: 09 Suzuki Swift Sport white Join Date: 16th January 2010 Location: Sunderland UK Posts: 18,207 Thanks given: 1,185 Thanked 2,046 Times in 1,931 Posts iTrader: (15)	I dont think that was fitted properly tbh Sent from my GT-N7000 using Tapatalk 2

25th September 2012, 20:37	#16 (permalink)
mylesjohn Supporter Car: 2006 2.2 5 door sport silver Join Date: 8th May 2012 Location: calne, wiltshire Posts: 459 Thanks given: 36 Thanked 47 Times in 47 Posts iTrader: (0)	Will ring the garage tomorrow and complain and see what they are prepared to do about it. Sent from my GT-N7000 using Tapatalk 2

27th September 2012, 16:24	#17 (permalink)
mylesjohn Supporter Car: 2006 2.2 5 door sport silver Join Date: 8th May 2012 Location: calne, wiltshire Posts: 459 Thanks given: 36 Thanked 47 Times in 47 Posts iTrader: (0)	With everyones focus being on the clutch disc I thought that the pressure plate was the actual week point in the car not the clutch disc material. After time the metal on the clutch plate gets weaker and weaker. I looked into finding just a clutch plate but to no luck. Sent from my GT-N7000 using Tapatalk 2

5th October 2012, 21:34	#18 (permalink)
scottrtq Supporter Car: 56 2.2 EX 5dr, Alabaster Join Date: 10th October 2011 Location: Carnoustie, Scotland Posts: 36 Thanks given: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts iTrader: (1)	The juddering really isn't that bad. You learn how not to make it judder and when u get it wrong just put the right foot down that bit more. I find that if you drive the car like its a petrol it doesn't judder. Give it a few more revs when picking away than you would with a standard diesel and you wont get the judder. Having a clutch that can handle the remap makes a judder now and then all worth while.