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mihael · 28th November 2007, 10:56

Have just had my oil light come on manually checked and found oil just showing on dip stick phoned dealer as car was serviced 5 months ago and oil was toped up about two month ago on one of my visits to the dealer have done about 9000 miles since service was told this is not to bad for oil use but they would have it in if i would like decided to fill it up and keep a close eye on it and keep them informed IS THIS EXCESSIVE OIL CONSUMPTION ?

amronno · 28th November 2007, 14:49

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Originally Posted by mihael

Have just had my oil light come on manually checked and found oil just showing on dip stick phoned dealer as car was serviced 5 months ago and oil was toped up about two month ago on one of my visits to the dealer have done about 9000 miles since service was told this is not to bad for oil use but they would have it in if i would like decided to fill it up and keep a close eye on it and keep them informed IS THIS EXCESSIVE OIL CONSUMPTION ?

Yes, I think it is. I think something is wrong here. If you barely saw some oil om the dipstick after only two monts use, it uses too much oil, imo. I find it strange that your dealer told you the oil consumtion was 'not too bad'. Wonder what they really meant by that statement. It doesn't sound very seriously, if I can put it that way.

Maybe you should consider to change dealer. I think I would. After all, the oil issue is a very serious matter!

cnicolini · 28th November 2007, 14:56

I have read somewhere that its common with some engines to use up to 1/2 litre of oil over just 600 miles, while running in.

surferjr1999 · 28th November 2007, 16:11

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Originally Posted by mihael

Have just had my oil light come on manually checked and found oil just showing on dip stick phoned dealer as car was serviced 5 months ago and oil was toped up about two month ago on one of my visits to the dealer have done about 9000 miles since service was told this is not to bad for oil use but they would have it in if i would like decided to fill it up and keep a close eye on it and keep them informed IS THIS EXCESSIVE OIL CONSUMPTION ?

I don't see that you should be alarmed. The car has done 9000 miles since the last service so you obviously do a high mileage. I have used a litre in 8000 miles. seems there is a wide variation in usage.

TTDegs · 29th November 2007, 11:15

I guess the question is - how many miles in the last 2 months since top up?

and - did they actually add any oil at the service (which one was it - 1st or 2nd?), and again did they actually top it up 2 months ago? - How long were you there? Did they let the oil settle then add the right amount, or did they just glug a bit in a hope?

so many questions!

(sorry!)

eyemdee · 2nd December 2007, 18:25

Approaching 3,000 miles and the level was half way down the hatched area of the dipstick. Added around 250ml to top it up. I find the orange plastic dipstick much easier to read than anything I have had before as the oil seems to darken the hatched area and makes the level clearly visible.

funtomino · 3rd December 2007, 17:12

mine consumed 600ml in 5000km

alanwalne · 3rd December 2007, 19:11

Since the 1st service (9000 miles and less than 4 months ago) it has used 800ml of oil (assuming it was at the max line when they serviced it).

It does get used relatively hard though (over 3000 of the miles has been towing, usually with three bikes on the roof as well).

I have not owned since new so cannot comment on running in.

Selwoc · 3rd December 2007, 20:46

I have been checking mine, it has now done 1000 miles and the oil level on the dipstick has only gone down about 3 mm. I don't know how much it needs to top it back up till I buy some oil tomorrow.

GHGH · 4th December 2007, 06:54

Still only one top up after 2000 km. Done 16000 km (10000 mi) now and level is 4/5 of the grooved part on the dipstick. Oil is gettin gdark - in for a change soon.

craigmilleruk · 10th December 2007, 15:36

Checked my 2.2 EX Ctdi at the weekend and the dipstick reported 1/4 full. Went to Halfords today and £43 flippin quid for 4 liters of 0w30 Oil. Almost had a Connery. Anyway went out checked the dipstick again and it appears to be 3/4 full. Apart from the ridiculous price of the oil it would appear that the diesel engine is very susceptible to being exactly level. My drive at home where I got the first measure from is not quite level so I'm blaming that. There are stickers ALL OVER the car saying "Check your Oil" and the dealer told me to check it regularly as well. I suspect this is a diesel thing as I've had 14 Honda's now and none of them used a drop of oil and that included an Integra Type R and Civic CRX Vtec. This is my first ever diesel ! I've now done 1500 miles in this car so I guess from reading here that 3/4 full is not bad.

Steeph · 10th December 2007, 22:21

Checked the level at 1000, 2000 and yesterday at 4900 km (about 3000 miles) and it still is a bit above the high mark. Which it thus must have been from the factory.

I don't drive like a granny, did 200 km/h in Germany already and test the rev lights from time to time, but not a drop sofar. Very good.

Soichiro · 12th December 2007, 21:03

Just a though for you guys with 2.2 diesels which are using oil.
Check around the oil filter housing for leaks.
It is the round black cap just to the front lefthand corner of the big plastic engine cover, as you look towards the rear of the car with the bonnet up.

(Do you follow that...)

Mine started to leak here after 13000 miles and because the oil is so thin it runs away down the front of the engine leaving very little trace.

The only way to tell is to look carefully around the lip on the filter casting just by the alternator belt for any trace of oil. Clean it and watch for it coming back.

You don't get any drips on the road because the under tray catches any drips.

A new cap/cover/lid bit with new seals cures it.

Of course it will take two trips to the dealers before they cotton on...

Jack The Lad. · 12th December 2007, 22:11

"Of course it will take two trips to the dealers before they cotton on...

"

Where the oil filter is, you mean.

Doubtingthomas · 27th December 2007, 11:40

Like many others, I have been keeping a close eye on how much oil there is in the engine. Now here is a question for you knowledgeable folks.....
When I take the dipstick out of the engine, the car having been standing overnight in the garage on a level surface, the oil level just comes to the top of the hatched area on the dipstick. If I wipe the dipstick clean and reinsert it, and take a second reading, the oil level drops to 2/3mm below the top of the hatched area. Any ideas? Oh, and I am completely sober....with no hangover from the night before!
(1.8 ES '57 i-shift with 1600 miles)

Steeph · 27th December 2007, 18:42

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Originally Posted by Doubtingthomas

Like many others, I have been keeping a close eye on how much oil there is in the engine. Now here is a question for you knowledgeable folks.....
When I take the dipstick out of the engine, the car having been standing overnight in the garage on a level surface, the oil level just comes to the top of the hatched area on the dipstick. If I wipe the dipstick clean and reinsert it, and take a second reading, the oil level drops to 2/3mm below the top of the hatched area. Any ideas? Oh, and I am completely sober....with no hangover from the night before!
(1.8 ES '57 i-shift with 1600 miles)

This is normal. The oil will 'creep upwards' during driving and due to expansion when it gets warm. That's why you always have to get the stick out and wipe it clean before you measure it.
So the 2nd reading is actually the first.

Doubtingthomas · 27th December 2007, 20:27

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Originally Posted by Steeph

This is normal. The oil will 'creep upwards' during driving and due to expansion when it gets warm. That's why you always have to get the stick out and wipe it clean before you measure it.
So the 2nd reading is actually the first.

Steeph,
Thanks for your response. I know now. In the meantime, have you considered using a hair dryer as a substitute for the sun? I am in the same position re the CivInfo stickers.

Steeph · 27th December 2007, 21:14

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Originally Posted by Doubtingthomas

Steeph,
Thanks for your response. I know now. In the meantime, have you considered using a hair dryer as a substitute for the sun? I am in the same position re the CivInfo stickers.

That would be an option, but since I live in an apartment and the parking place is not directly next to my house I would need an extension cord of about 50 meter to get the hair dryer into the car

So I'm waiting for summer (which I'm anyway because I hate winter)

Doubtingthomas · 28th December 2007, 07:21

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Originally Posted by Steeph

That would be an option, but since I live in an apartment and the parking place is not directly next to my house I would need an extension cord of about 50 meter to get the hair dryer into the car

So I'm waiting for summer (which I'm anyway because I hate winter)

Yes, roll on summer and warmer weather!

illegalhunter · 28th December 2007, 07:29

My R has done 2750 miles & the oil mark hasnt moved , from the max.

10th December 2007, 22:21	#52 (permalink)
Steeph Strange Engineer Wheelnut Join Date: 11th October 2007 Location: Delft Posts: 85 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Not a drop Checked the level at 1000, 2000 and yesterday at 4900 km (about 3000 miles) and it still is a bit above the high mark. Which it thus must have been from the factory. I don't drive like a granny, did 200 km/h in Germany already and test the rev lights from time to time, but not a drop sofar. Very good.

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Jack The Lad. Supporter Rocketship door handle Join Date: 28th August 2007 Location: ENGLAND Posts: 1,396 Thanks: 0 Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts	"Of course it will take two trips to the dealers before they cotton on..." Where the oil filter is, you mean.

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mihael Wheelnut Join Date: 11th June 2006 Posts: 95 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Have just had my oil light come on manually checked and found oil just showing on dip stick phoned dealer as car was serviced 5 months ago and oil was toped up about two month ago on one of my visits to the dealer have done about 9000 miles since service was told this is not to bad for oil use but they would have it in if i would like decided to fill it up and keep a close eye on it and keep them informed IS THIS EXCESSIVE OIL CONSUMPTION ?

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cnicolini Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 15th August 2007 Location: Hertfordshire Posts: 463 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	I have read somewhere that its common with some engines to use up to 1/2 litre of oil over just 600 miles, while running in.

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TTDegs Super Moderator Civinfo master Join Date: 4th August 2006 Location: Cardiff Posts: 5,638 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I guess the question is - how many miles in the last 2 months since top up? and - did they actually add any oil at the service (which one was it - 1st or 2nd?), and again did they actually top it up 2 months ago? - How long were you there? Did they let the oil settle then add the right amount, or did they just glug a bit in a hope? so many questions! (sorry!)

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eyemdee Wheelnut Join Date: 8th May 2007 Location: Mansfield, Notts Posts: 82 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Approaching 3,000 miles and the level was half way down the hatched area of the dipstick. Added around 250ml to top it up. I find the orange plastic dipstick much easier to read than anything I have had before as the oil seems to darken the hatched area and makes the level clearly visible.

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funtomino Valve Cap Join Date: 18th September 2007 Location: Bratislava Posts: 9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	mine consumed 600ml in 5000km

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alanwalne Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 11th June 2007 Location: Kent Posts: 698 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Since the 1st service (9000 miles and less than 4 months ago) it has used 800ml of oil (assuming it was at the max line when they serviced it). It does get used relatively hard though (over 3000 of the miles has been towing, usually with three bikes on the roof as well). I have not owned since new so cannot comment on running in.

3rd December 2007, 20:46	#49 (permalink)
Selwoc Valve Cap Join Date: 3rd November 2007 Location: Oxfordshire Posts: 43 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I have been checking mine, it has now done 1000 miles and the oil level on the dipstick has only gone down about 3 mm. I don't know how much it needs to top it back up till I buy some oil tomorrow.

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GHGH TANSTAAFL! Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 13th March 2007 Location: Trondheim, Norway Posts: 920 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Still only one top up after 2000 km. Done 16000 km (10000 mi) now and level is 4/5 of the grooved part on the dipstick. Oil is gettin gdark - in for a change soon.

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craigmilleruk Supporter Valve Cap Join Date: 29th October 2007 Location: Aberdeen Posts: 11 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Checked my 2.2 EX Ctdi at the weekend and the dipstick reported 1/4 full. Went to Halfords today and £43 flippin quid for 4 liters of 0w30 Oil. Almost had a Connery. Anyway went out checked the dipstick again and it appears to be 3/4 full. Apart from the ridiculous price of the oil it would appear that the diesel engine is very susceptible to being exactly level. My drive at home where I got the first measure from is not quite level so I'm blaming that. There are stickers ALL OVER the car saying "Check your Oil" and the dealer told me to check it regularly as well. I suspect this is a diesel thing as I've had 14 Honda's now and none of them used a drop of oil and that included an Integra Type R and Civic CRX Vtec. This is my first ever diesel ! I've now done 1500 miles in this car so I guess from reading here that 3/4 full is not bad.

12th December 2007, 21:03	#53 (permalink)
Soichiro Wheelnut Join Date: 27th June 2007 Location: Lincolnshire Posts: 55 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Just a though for you guys with 2.2 diesels which are using oil. Check around the oil filter housing for leaks. It is the round black cap just to the front lefthand corner of the big plastic engine cover, as you look towards the rear of the car with the bonnet up. (Do you follow that...) Mine started to leak here after 13000 miles and because the oil is so thin it runs away down the front of the engine leaving very little trace. The only way to tell is to look carefully around the lip on the filter casting just by the alternator belt for any trace of oil. Clean it and watch for it coming back. You don't get any drips on the road because the under tray catches any drips. A new cap/cover/lid bit with new seals cures it. Of course it will take two trips to the dealers before they cotton on...

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Doubtingthomas Honda aficionado Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 14th August 2007 Location: Chorley, Lancashire Posts: 500 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Like many others, I have been keeping a close eye on how much oil there is in the engine. Now here is a question for you knowledgeable folks..... When I take the dipstick out of the engine, the car having been standing overnight in the garage on a level surface, the oil level just comes to the top of the hatched area on the dipstick. If I wipe the dipstick clean and reinsert it, and take a second reading, the oil level drops to 2/3mm below the top of the hatched area. Any ideas? Oh, and I am completely sober....with no hangover from the night before! (1.8 ES '57 i-shift with 1600 miles)

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illegalhunter TYPE R GT (R-8130) Rocketship door handle Join Date: 10th May 2007 Location: In the woods armed to the teeth Posts: 1,890 Thanks: 1 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	My R has done 2750 miles & the oil mark hasnt moved , from the max.