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tbl · 2nd February 2008, 16:57

Honda Assist will uplift the car to a garage but that's it, they won't syphon any oil out or anything.

I did do about 4-5 miles after I filled up, and didn't notice any issues - would I have noticed a problem before then, or is this something which could cause a problem after more miles?

I really needed to use the car tonight as well, which is a royal pain in the ass. You live and learn I guess

Dalboy · 2nd February 2008, 17:03

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Originally Posted by tbl

Honda Assist will uplift the car to a garage but that's it, they won't syphon any oil out or anything.

I did do about 4-5 miles after I filled up, and didn't notice any issues - would I have noticed a problem before then, or is this something which could cause a problem after more miles?

I really needed to use the car tonight as well, which is a royal pain in the ass. You live and learn I guess

Sorry I haven't got the knowledge to answer that I'm afraid

tbl · 2nd February 2008, 17:09

Well if anyone can assist, it would be appreciated.

Obviously I now know that too much oil is bad, but I thought that since Honda said I urgently needed oil that putting 4litres into a 5.5litre tank would be fine.

I guess my main question is - if there is around an inch between the min and max markers, and I'm an inch above, does this prove a major problem? Or is the max just a guideline, and 'x' above it will be ill advised, but still safe.

Steeph · 2nd February 2008, 17:15

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Originally Posted by tbl

I guess my main question is - if there is around an inch between the min and max markers, and I'm an inch above, does this prove a major problem? Or is the max just a guideline, and 'x' above it will be ill advised, but still safe.

No Max is really max. So the optimum level would be on or just below the max line.

I don't know exactly what could go wrong if you overfill, but a search here in the forum or with google should give you some info I think. Maybe there is a wiki (not the one here) aswell.

eyemdee · 2nd February 2008, 18:57

There is a thread here:- Overfilled motor oil? - Yahoo! UK & Ireland Answers

Any garage or even tyre fitting centre should be able to drain some oil for you. All you need is access to underneath the engine and a couple of spanners to remove the maintenance panel and the drain plug.

FAL · 2nd February 2008, 20:05

It depends on the particular model/engine but the main effect of putting too much oil in is that the crank is runing too deep in it and will throw it around so much it can pressurise up the side of the piston and into the combustion chamber and be burnt or burst seals at front and rear of crank. High revs will almost certainly do that. With an older design engine, I might risk driving very very gently at low revs a short distance but I don't know enough about these engines and their very thin oil (which will get through spaces thicker oils won't) to advise.

On the main thread topic, the confusion seems to be whether any diesel Civic now has a DPF as standard. The handbook is too vague, talking about cars with and cars without and not clearly saying "since....a DPF has been fitted". Whether or not later cars have a DPF affects which oil spec is needed.
The various grades in the handbook all have no upper ambient temperature limit so the deciding factor is how low a temp you are going to experience. 10w cut off is -20C and 5w cutoff is -25C. Anything lower and 0w required. Make should not matter as long as spec is same (my local dealer uses Elf).

ritchie_perriam · 3rd February 2008, 23:23

Get it drained! you will blow the engine! and as you overfilled it there would be no cover from your warrenty!

sandz · 13th February 2008, 10:50

Yesterday the oil warning sign came up (without an exclamation mark), put in 1 litre of 0W30, 15060 km's.

P@tje · 13th February 2008, 11:55

mine doesn't use any centilitre of oil. Not messurable.

Petrol 1.4 35.000 km.

Steeph · 27th April 2008, 17:38

After 17000 KM in exactly a half year the level is still at max, so oil consumption is zero.

Miggins · 29th April 2008, 22:02

managed to make it to 27K without adding any oil after the 12K svc - up to 12K I was constantly topping it up. At last its settled down as promised.

Shame they have put the 'wrong' oil in again. Gone from 0W-30 to 10W-40 (think they've changed from Castrol to Shell as well)

Last time they changed the grade I got them to put in the oil they recommended when I collected the car!!!!

(What is the right grade? - opening seperate thread)

27th April 2008, 17:38	#110 (permalink)
Steeph Strange Engineer Wheelnut Join Date: 11th October 2007 Location: Delft Posts: 86 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Still not a drop After 17000 KM in exactly a half year the level is still at max, so oil consumption is zero.

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Miggins Enthusiastic Supporter Magic Rear Seat Join Date: 25th August 2006 Location: The Twilight Zone Posts: 526 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	managed to make it to 27K without adding any oil after the 12K svc - up to 12K I was constantly topping it up. At last its settled down as promised. Shame they have put the 'wrong' oil in again. Gone from 0W-30 to 10W-40 (think they've changed from Castrol to Shell as well) Last time they changed the grade I got them to put in the oil they recommended when I collected the car!!!! (What is the right grade? - opening seperate thread) Last edited by Miggins; 29th April 2008 at 22:05.

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tbl Valve Cap Join Date: 18th June 2007 Location: Glasgow, UK Posts: 26 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Honda Assist will uplift the car to a garage but that's it, they won't syphon any oil out or anything. I did do about 4-5 miles after I filled up, and didn't notice any issues - would I have noticed a problem before then, or is this something which could cause a problem after more miles? I really needed to use the car tonight as well, which is a royal pain in the ass. You live and learn I guess

2nd February 2008, 17:09	#103 (permalink)
tbl Valve Cap Join Date: 18th June 2007 Location: Glasgow, UK Posts: 26 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Well if anyone can assist, it would be appreciated. Obviously I now know that too much oil is bad, but I thought that since Honda said I urgently needed oil that putting 4litres into a 5.5litre tank would be fine. I guess my main question is - if there is around an inch between the min and max markers, and I'm an inch above, does this prove a major problem? Or is the max just a guideline, and 'x' above it will be ill advised, but still safe.

2nd February 2008, 18:57	#105 (permalink)
eyemdee Wheelnut Join Date: 8th May 2007 Location: Mansfield, Notts Posts: 82 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	There is a thread here:- Overfilled motor oil? - Yahoo! UK & Ireland Answers Any garage or even tyre fitting centre should be able to drain some oil for you. All you need is access to underneath the engine and a couple of spanners to remove the maintenance panel and the drain plug.

2nd February 2008, 20:05	#106 (permalink)
FAL Valve Cap Join Date: 30th January 2008 Location: UK Posts: 20 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	It depends on the particular model/engine but the main effect of putting too much oil in is that the crank is runing too deep in it and will throw it around so much it can pressurise up the side of the piston and into the combustion chamber and be burnt or burst seals at front and rear of crank. High revs will almost certainly do that. With an older design engine, I might risk driving very very gently at low revs a short distance but I don't know enough about these engines and their very thin oil (which will get through spaces thicker oils won't) to advise. On the main thread topic, the confusion seems to be whether any diesel Civic now has a DPF as standard. The handbook is too vague, talking about cars with and cars without and not clearly saying "since....a DPF has been fitted". Whether or not later cars have a DPF affects which oil spec is needed. The various grades in the handbook all have no upper ambient temperature limit so the deciding factor is how low a temp you are going to experience. 10w cut off is -20C and 5w cutoff is -25C. Anything lower and 0w required. Make should not matter as long as spec is same (my local dealer uses Elf).

3rd February 2008, 23:23	#107 (permalink)
ritchie_perriam Tyre Shredder Triangular Exhaust Join Date: 30th November 2007 Location: guildford, surrey Posts: 277 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Get it drained! you will blow the engine! and as you overfilled it there would be no cover from your warrenty!

13th February 2008, 10:50	#108 (permalink)
sandz Supporter Valve Cap Join Date: 26th February 2007 Location: Netherlands Posts: 32 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Yesterday the oil warning sign came up (without an exclamation mark), put in 1 litre of 0W30, 15060 km's.

13th February 2008, 11:55	#109 (permalink)
P@tje Locking Wheelnut Join Date: 19th November 2006 Location: Netherlands Posts: 185 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	mine doesn't use any centilitre of oil. Not messurable. Petrol 1.4 35.000 km.