|18th July 2009, 07:06||#1 (permalink)|
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Hondata Flashpro Change History!
Whats new in the Hondata Flashpro Manager Software:
V18.104.22.168 (16 July 2009)
· Fixed problem exporting datalogs.
· Fixed problem downloading and re-uploading calibrations from the FlashPro.
· Added send support information function.
V22.214.171.124 (8 July 2009)
· Added Reflash Rebate information.
· Changed race calibrations to prevent long term fuel trim changing.
· Fixed cruise control for Euro CTR AFM calibrations.
· Added VTEC crossover tuning
V126.96.36.199 (3 July 2009)
· Added starter relay disable to RRC calibrations.
· Lowered default WOT MAP pressure for race calibrations.
· Added knock sensitivity tables for race, Euro and Asia calibrations.
· Added rpm & load index insert & delete for race calibrations.
· Changed lambda overlay for AFM calibrations so that lambda values and fuel changes are shown on the WOT lambda tables.
· Added Civic Si Lamda Correction.
· Fixed VTEC status not datalogging correctly.
V188.8.131.52 (29 June 2009)
· FlashPro firmware updated to version 6.
· Added non-supported operating system warning.
· Added OBDII voltage logging during upload.
· Recognize JRSC & CT reflashes for locking.
· Annotated K&N SRI calibrations to 'K&N V2 SRI'
· Added recording time, date and filename to the Graph window.
· Fixed overlay lambda not saving.
· Fixed upload password not working.
V184.108.40.206 (24 June 2009)
· Added AFM removal.
· Added Maintenance Minder.
· Added low battery voltage warning when uploading.
· Allow speed limiter speed to be altered in race calibrations.
· Corrected CT stage 2 calibration injector size from 650cc to 520cc.
· Fixed 4 bar MAP settings not saving.
V220.127.116.11 (22 June 2009)
· Retail release.
Last edited by NDFN2; 18th July 2009 at 07:11.
|18th July 2009, 09:40||#3 (permalink)|
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I beg to differ. Looking at the required updates and revisions of the software they were still in development fase, but were forced to react when their rival Cobb Tuning was bringing out Accessport in the states a few months ago.
|19th July 2009, 19:53||#7 (permalink)|
Well ... is not so tragic, I'm sure this bugs are going to be solved, it's just a matter of time
And if you have a tuner ( like you UK guys are so lucky to have ) , I've heard the custom MAP calibration works very good.
|19th July 2009, 21:09||#8 (permalink)|
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glad i didnt wait for this either - wonder if there's any risk of your engine going bang with this until they fix the bugs ? will stick with the standard hondata
|19th July 2009, 22:50||#9 (permalink)|
|20th July 2009, 09:07||#10 (permalink)|
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|20th July 2009, 18:56||#11 (permalink)|
It's all hype! For people to expect a generic safe map to run 100% on their car are expecting too much. The whole idea is to provide a solution that is finally mappable and that they have. If you expect a generic supplied map to run 100% on your car your mad. They are intended as safe base maps to get you by until you can get it properly mapped just as they were on the Kmanager software for the Kpro's. They get you started and the car won't run lean which will destroy your engine NOT running rich!
I have had mine now from the first day they became available and it's great. Got it mapped and its even more economical than the reflash was! Basemaps are uber rich for safety just the same as the Kpro ones were, get it set correct for your car and you make more power and better MPG.
I guess what I am saying is if your modding your car you obviously need to get it mapped correctly to get the best out of it. If you do spend the money on Flashpro just get it mapped properly.
Issues seem to be with MAP tuning which as has been stated by Hondata isn't necessary unless you go lairy cams, supercharger, turbo and in that case its been common knowledge from day 1 you loose your trip computer functions if you change injectors as its calibrated for 310's and if your serious modding you will need bigger injectors.
Probably only 2 people that need MAP tuning is Dawid running cams which to be honest would still only be running about 90% duty if stock so not really needing bigger ones and CPL running a supercharger. All the rest can safely use MAF tuning with 100% functionality and full mappable features!
Get a grip people! It's not that bad!
|20th July 2009, 19:05||#12 (permalink)|
I don't agree that runing rich is not bad. Runing rich can do cylinder wash and eventually wash the seal at your piston rings.
One forum member was runing the hondata ECU and stock airbox and stock exhaust and at WOT the AFR was almots 1.10/1.11 at every RPM. Is this good for the engine?
|20th July 2009, 19:13||#13 (permalink)|
Show me the datalogs!
This is impossible with MAF as it works pretty much in closed loop all the time. Its told what the AF should be and it sticks to that. Rich yes but no worse than 12.5.
If someone is running a MAP race calibration on a stock car without tuning then they need their heads testing and are asking for trouble.
|20th July 2009, 19:21||#14 (permalink)|
red: hondata ECU and stock exhaust and stock intake
blue: hondata ECU and toda mani, toda exhaust and groupeM
Last edited by nunoctr; 20th July 2009 at 19:23.
|20th July 2009, 19:31||#15 (permalink)|
Of course a map writen for a high flow intake, maifold and exhaust is going to run rich on a stock car. It's not meant for a stock car!
Is it MAP or MAF.
Say MAF and I will call you a liar.
|20th July 2009, 19:37||#16 (permalink)|
Saying all that, even the AF for the modded car is very rich.
You are really looking for AF of 13.0 on Honda NA engines for best performance.
Hell My GTR runs between 12-12.5 and smokes like a chimney!
|20th July 2009, 19:38||#17 (permalink)|
TPW that was a hondata group N reflashed ECU.
I have one (and now also a flashpro) and use this for one year and when I saw that dyno with a stock car and with hondata reflashed ECU I was
It's a WOT AFR with a MAf. That is Why I say hondata reflashed ECU in a stock car is not good.
With the race header is not that bad but not the best AFR.
Last edited by nunoctr; 20th July 2009 at 19:41.
|20th July 2009, 19:45||#18 (permalink)|
Nuno, are you saying that guy with all those mods "blue: hondata ECU and toda mani, toda exhaust and groupeM" gets ony 213,9 bhp ?
Dawid and Marcin with similar mods got 225-230 hp ...
|21st July 2009, 10:27||#20 (permalink)|
Car: FN2 JDM - K20/K24
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My 2 cents
IMO The flashpro isn't good enough as we all expected to be.
There is a lot of bugs concering AFR and much more.
I'm not fully satisfied with flashpro, and not only me I suppose
Reflash in Flashpro isn't good as original reflash and this is true whatever you say.
TPW - Concering bigger injectors. It's true with 250BHP stock injectors 310cc will work between 90-100% of duty cycle, but I do not want them working on full duty cycle every time. At this moment my RPM is always between 7000-9000 RPM so I'm relaxed with RC 440cc.
Last edited by Dawid S; 21st July 2009 at 13:21. Reason: Grammar Fully (Completely)
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