Which Induction Kit to go with Hondata Group N ?

GT 57 · 5th November 2009, 22:59

Hello

Please can I have some suggestions as to which Cold air induction kit would be best suited to work well with the Hondata Group N ECU.

There are no other mods, everything else is standard.

All replies welcome.

I would prefer to avoid Heat Soak and flat spot issues and I cannot afford GruppeM.
Also I would prefer easy installation without the need to faff about with other parts of the engine bay, cutting and chopping etc.

TypeRiter · 5th November 2009, 23:04

The best irrespective of mods is the GruppeM that's also the most expensive. TPW recently tested the Injen CAI with good results at much cheaper price than the GruppeM.

GruppeM has 'bling' factor to it, but the wise choice on the results would be the Injen - if moneys no option then the GM.

Either one of the above, because most of the rest that are retailing cheaply are pointless and have nothing on the stock intake, which in terms of intakes is very good.

TypeRiter · 5th November 2009, 23:13

just seen your edit: I'd stick with stock if you're looking for an easy install intake/cheap/not GM there's nothing out there that I know of that gives good gains by simply sticking it in.

GruppeM or the intakes that require awkward mountings like CPL/Injen offer decent gains.

TypeRiter · 5th November 2009, 23:16

but are either pricey or require engine bay manipulation/work to get the intake in. Stick with stock.. The others suffer from soak, may sound decent but have nothing on the stock box.

Sorry for the split post... I'm typing on my phone.

TypeRiter · 5th November 2009, 23:21

Search on this in the Type-R thread a lot of threads basically substantiate most of what I've said..

GT 57 · 5th November 2009, 23:21

..........what about HKS Racing Suction Kit, the filter is shaped a bit like a mushroom. CPL are asking for £322 vat inclusive.

their is a good review:
Pictures & small review of the HKS Racing Suction Kit

....and I don't know if this is the same kit, but its on ebay £324 delivered.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HKS-Racing-Suc...item439a24cfc7

TypeRiter · 5th November 2009, 23:30

swear it's susceptible to heat-soak under certain circumstances/conditions but it's up to you. People who have 'em, love em but a couple people have put it best, unless it's GM best to stay stock.

Speak to some of the other modders on the site, they'll help, but the consensus is GM or stock as far as I'm aware in terms of simple installs, with gains and no disadvantages.

I think mugen'll have an airbox too.. That'll be ££££'s probably too.

fat4y · 6th November 2009, 00:31

if you can id get a 2nd hand gruppe m..seen one on ebay not long ago but not sure if its still there...prob about a month ago..

Beast · 6th November 2009, 00:38

If we're talking about the same one fat4y, it went for about £450/460ish a while ago!

Had it on my watched items list

Guitaralmond · 6th November 2009, 01:54

thank you for mentioning my review

... Yes the hks suffers from heatsoak ONLY when stuck in traffic for a prolonged period.. But when you're rolling and under normal driving after it's fine, it's not as though you vtec in heavy traffic anyway.. Also the kit is louder and faster in good cool weather.. In normal driving situations this kit has given me power (on the dyno) and sounds mental, especially in cold weather where it really shines!!! Any other questions please pm me.. I'm trying to be as impartial as possible for you being honest

if you have £320 I wouldn't hesitate to get hks

BRM · 6th November 2009, 12:38

My opinion mate,

Stick to the stock intake, as isnt that bad, get some £££s toguether ans buy a exhaust manifold, with the reflash, you be a happy man!

Regards

supra-boy · 6th November 2009, 12:47

cpl racing one??? that one looks like it will work. Its located in a good place, open cone so it will sound sweet and @299 it will not break the bank balance. Plus its been developed by a good company CPL!

GT 57 · 6th November 2009, 21:55

BRM suggests good exhaust manifolds, I had that in the back of my mind, but again its all a question of dollars. so any suggestions on a decent manifold, which is not restricted, with prices if poss.

supra-boy · 6th November 2009, 22:14

Xo do a manifold. 625 and 12 delivery. It's on eBay.

5th November 2009, 22:59	#1 (permalink)
GT 57 Car: 2007/57 GT CTR Milano Red Join Date: 12th August 2009 Location: uk Posts: 49 Thanks given: 6 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader: (0)	Which Induction Kit to go with Hondata Group N ? Hello Please can I have some suggestions as to which Cold air induction kit would be best suited to work well with the Hondata Group N ECU. There are no other mods, everything else is standard. All replies welcome. I would prefer to avoid Heat Soak and flat spot issues and I cannot afford GruppeM. Also I would prefer easy installation without the need to faff about with other parts of the engine bay, cutting and chopping etc. Last edited by GT 57; 5th November 2009 at 23:02.

5th November 2009, 23:21	#6 (permalink)
GT 57 Thread starter Car: 2007/57 GT CTR Milano Red Join Date: 12th August 2009 Location: uk Posts: 49 Thanks given: 6 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader: (0)	..........what about HKS Racing Suction Kit, the filter is shaped a bit like a mushroom. CPL are asking for £322 vat inclusive. their is a good review: Pictures & small review of the HKS Racing Suction Kit ....and I don't know if this is the same kit, but its on ebay £324 delivered. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HKS-Racing-Suc...item439a24cfc7 Last edited by GT 57; 5th November 2009 at 23:30.

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TypeRiter Sold a kidney last week! Car: Integra Type-R (DC5) Join Date: 27th May 2009 Location: Ealing Posts: 3,918 Thanks given: 308 Thanked 219 Times in 212 Posts iTrader: (7)	The best irrespective of mods is the GruppeM that's also the most expensive. TPW recently tested the Injen CAI with good results at much cheaper price than the GruppeM. GruppeM has 'bling' factor to it, but the wise choice on the results would be the Injen - if moneys no option then the GM. Either one of the above, because most of the rest that are retailing cheaply are pointless and have nothing on the stock intake, which in terms of intakes is very good.

5th November 2009, 23:13	#3 (permalink)
TypeRiter Sold a kidney last week! Car: Integra Type-R (DC5) Join Date: 27th May 2009 Location: Ealing Posts: 3,918 Thanks given: 308 Thanked 219 Times in 212 Posts iTrader: (7)	just seen your edit: I'd stick with stock if you're looking for an easy install intake/cheap/not GM there's nothing out there that I know of that gives good gains by simply sticking it in. GruppeM or the intakes that require awkward mountings like CPL/Injen offer decent gains.

5th November 2009, 23:16	#4 (permalink)
TypeRiter Sold a kidney last week! Car: Integra Type-R (DC5) Join Date: 27th May 2009 Location: Ealing Posts: 3,918 Thanks given: 308 Thanked 219 Times in 212 Posts iTrader: (7)	but are either pricey or require engine bay manipulation/work to get the intake in. Stick with stock.. The others suffer from soak, may sound decent but have nothing on the stock box. Sorry for the split post... I'm typing on my phone.

5th November 2009, 23:21	#5 (permalink)
TypeRiter Sold a kidney last week! Car: Integra Type-R (DC5) Join Date: 27th May 2009 Location: Ealing Posts: 3,918 Thanks given: 308 Thanked 219 Times in 212 Posts iTrader: (7)	Search on this in the Type-R thread a lot of threads basically substantiate most of what I've said..

5th November 2009, 23:30	#7 (permalink)
TypeRiter Sold a kidney last week! Car: Integra Type-R (DC5) Join Date: 27th May 2009 Location: Ealing Posts: 3,918 Thanks given: 308 Thanked 219 Times in 212 Posts iTrader: (7)	swear it's susceptible to heat-soak under certain circumstances/conditions but it's up to you. People who have 'em, love em but a couple people have put it best, unless it's GM best to stay stock. Speak to some of the other modders on the site, they'll help, but the consensus is GM or stock as far as I'm aware in terms of simple installs, with gains and no disadvantages. I think mugen'll have an airbox too.. That'll be ££££'s probably too.

6th November 2009, 00:31	#8 (permalink)
fat4y The Property Man Car: 2007 VW Beetle 1.6 Join Date: 7th November 2008 Location: Glasgow Posts: 6,046 Thanks given: 24 Thanked 371 Times in 365 Posts iTrader: (6)	if you can id get a 2nd hand gruppe m..seen one on ebay not long ago but not sure if its still there...prob about a month ago..

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Beast Car: 2008 Civic Type R GT :: NHB Join Date: 29th March 2009 Location: Belfast, Northern Ireland Posts: 248 Thanks given: 4 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts iTrader: (0)	If we're talking about the same one fat4y, it went for about £450/460ish a while ago! Had it on my watched items list

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Guitaralmond COTM Feb 2012 Car: BMW 123d Coupe Le Mans Join Date: 9th January 2008 Location: Stoke-On-Trent Posts: 3,912 Thanks given: 395 Thanked 287 Times in 257 Posts iTrader: (11)	thank you for mentioning my review ... Yes the hks suffers from heatsoak ONLY when stuck in traffic for a prolonged period.. But when you're rolling and under normal driving after it's fine, it's not as though you vtec in heavy traffic anyway.. Also the kit is louder and faster in good cool weather.. In normal driving situations this kit has given me power (on the dyno) and sounds mental, especially in cold weather where it really shines!!! Any other questions please pm me.. I'm trying to be as impartial as possible for you being honest if you have £320 I wouldn't hesitate to get hks

6th November 2009, 12:38	#11 (permalink)
BRM Join Date: 2nd October 2007 Location: Albufeira, Portugal Posts: 2,245 Thanks given: 8 Thanked 116 Times in 105 Posts iTrader: (2)	My opinion mate, Stick to the stock intake, as isnt that bad, get some £££s toguether ans buy a exhaust manifold, with the reflash, you be a happy man! Regards

6th November 2009, 12:47	#12 (permalink)
supra-boy Car: 2008 CTR MILANO RED Join Date: 28th September 2008 Location: Welling Posts: 264 Thanks given: 6 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts iTrader: (0)	cpl racing one??? that one looks like it will work. Its located in a good place, open cone so it will sound sweet and @299 it will not break the bank balance. Plus its been developed by a good company CPL!

6th November 2009, 21:55	#13 (permalink)
GT 57 Thread starter Car: 2007/57 GT CTR Milano Red Join Date: 12th August 2009 Location: uk Posts: 49 Thanks given: 6 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader: (0)	BRM suggests good exhaust manifolds, I had that in the back of my mind, but again its all a question of dollars. so any suggestions on a decent manifold, which is not restricted, with prices if poss.

6th November 2009, 22:14	#14 (permalink)
supra-boy Car: 2008 CTR MILANO RED Join Date: 28th September 2008 Location: Welling Posts: 264 Thanks given: 6 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts iTrader: (0)	Xo do a manifold. 625 and 12 delivery. It's on eBay.