Flashpro question

rossk1009 · 18th March 2010, 18:10

I have heard a lot of talk about flashpro and how it lowers the vtec.

Does this not do any damage to the engine? I thought the vtec meant the cam tilted when it hit a certain revs so I can't see how changing this can be safe.

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Terry H · 18th March 2010, 19:27

Its not as if your asking it to do something its not designed to do, its just doing it sooner than later, I would have thought its better for your engine as you dont have to rev it as hard to get that midrange power.

civicRSA · 18th March 2010, 19:32

There is a difference between VTC and Vtec. VTC adjusts cam angle Vtec just means that both inlet valves open fully thus creating more air flow.

It cannot damage the motor at all.

tdi-north · 18th March 2010, 20:07

Perfectly safe. Do it!!!!!

rossk1009 · 18th March 2010, 21:47

Does sound good.

Sorry to sound an idiot but when you hit vtec does the cam tilt and the inlet valves open?

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antmaz · 18th March 2010, 21:50

Have a read...

Honda Worldwide | Technology Picture Book | VTEC

and

HowStuffWorks "What does the VTEC system in a Honda engine do?"

hope this helps

Spudwiser · 18th March 2010, 22:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by antmaz

Have a read...

Honda Worldwide | Technology Picture Book | VTEC

and

HowStuffWorks "What does the VTEC system in a Honda engine do?"

hope this helps

that's clarified something i sort of understood beforehand. thanks

tdi-north · 18th March 2010, 22:14

I think you will find the inlet, not to mention the exhaust valves open all the time te engine is running vtec or no vtec.

Cam rotation is also happening constantly on both high and low cam but it is only the intake cam that had the capability to alter upto 50' from zero position. Exhaust cam is fixed.

Flashpro allows possibility to alter not only vtec window but full cam settings, fuel and ignition tables to allow a trained mapper to tune your car to it's optimum efficiency to deliver best performance and economy.

Mapping cars has been around for years. This isn't some new rocket science or black art developed for Type-Rs

DPG87 · 18th March 2010, 22:36

Lol can I just jump in and ask...I plugged the flashpro in to my desktop and downloaded the Group N map...but the instructions etc on the site all say that I need to then plug the flashpro into the car when it is connected to a laptop...but I ain't got a laptop lol so how do I get the map onto the car? Cheers

J_H · 18th March 2010, 22:40

Borrow one?

Spudwiser · 18th March 2010, 22:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by DPG87

Lol can I just jump in and ask...I plugged the flashpro in to my desktop and downloaded the Group N map...but the instructions etc on the site all say that I need to then plug the flashpro into the car when it is connected to a laptop...but I ain't got a laptop lol so how do I get the map onto the car? Cheers

i think you need a laptop mate or a very very long lead from your desktop pc to your car

DPG87 · 18th March 2010, 22:43

There must be a way to do it because it says laptop or desktop on the requirements

tdi-north · 18th March 2010, 22:46

Long USB lead or drag your PC to the car. It all needs to be connected to run through the registering flashpro and licking to the car before you can load the map. Also need an Internet connection.
Same with unlocking.

DPG87 · 18th March 2010, 23:07

Nightmare I'll need to try and get my mates

Spudwiser · 18th March 2010, 23:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by tdi-north

Long USB lead or drag your PC to the car. It all needs to be connected to run through the registering flashpro and licking to the car before you can load the map. Also need an Internet connection.
Same with unlocking.

best left to the professionals i think !

DPG87 · 18th March 2010, 23:11

Yeh I'm gettin Paul to do it but I just wanted to stick the GN map on to see what it's like!

Spudwiser · 18th March 2010, 23:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by DPG87

Yeh I'm gettin Paul to do it but I just wanted to stick the GN map on to see what it's like!

i've got the old reflash and the GN map is ace

think flashpro takes it to whole new level though

DPG87 · 18th March 2010, 23:20

Aye I'll need to get a laptop from somewhere

rossk1009 · 19th March 2010, 00:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by tdi-north

Mapping cars has been around for years. This isn't some new rocket science or black art developed for Type-Rs

I know mapping cars has been around for years but I'm th type of guy who is a pain in the back side and asks loads of questions.

My next question is if it is more efficient for performance and economy to have the vtec lower on the revs than it is just now why did Honda not do this with the car?

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DPG87 · 19th March 2010, 00:45

The car runs rich for safety on the engine but it doesn't need to be as rich as it is...as for why they didn't do this...is maybe a bit like askin why didn't they make it 230 bhp standard to be more competitive with it's rivals etc

don't worry bout the questions I ask all the time it's the only way to learn IMO

18th March 2010, 18:10	#1 (permalink)
rossk1009 Supporter Car: 58 NHB TYPE R GT Join Date: 14th June 2009 Location: Falkirk, Scotland Posts: 3,241 Thanks given: 145 Thanked 392 Times in 369 Posts iTrader: (8)	Flashpro question I have heard a lot of talk about flashpro and how it lowers the vtec. Does this not do any damage to the engine? I thought the vtec meant the cam tilted when it hit a certain revs so I can't see how changing this can be safe. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

18th March 2010, 21:47	#5 (permalink)
rossk1009 Supporter Thread starter Car: 58 NHB TYPE R GT Join Date: 14th June 2009 Location: Falkirk, Scotland Posts: 3,241 Thanks given: 145 Thanked 392 Times in 369 Posts iTrader: (8)	Re: Flashpro question Does sound good. Sorry to sound an idiot but when you hit vtec does the cam tilt and the inlet valves open? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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Terry H Supporter Join Date: 20th September 2008 Location: UK Cleveland Posts: 2,303 Thanks given: 129 Thanked 107 Times in 91 Posts iTrader: (4)	Its not as if your asking it to do something its not designed to do, its just doing it sooner than later, I would have thought its better for your engine as you dont have to rev it as hard to get that midrange power.

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civicRSA Supporter Car: 2008 CTR, Red Join Date: 30th October 2009 Location: South Africa Posts: 603 Thanks given: 23 Thanked 49 Times in 41 Posts iTrader: (0)	There is a difference between VTC and Vtec. VTC adjusts cam angle Vtec just means that both inlet valves open fully thus creating more air flow. It cannot damage the motor at all.

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tdi-north Commercial user Join Date: 3rd May 2008 Location: Warrington Posts: 3,890 Thanks given: 131 Thanked 603 Times in 463 Posts iTrader: (0)	Perfectly safe. Do it!!!!!

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antmaz My other woman is my CTR Car: '59 CTR GT satnav/hft Join Date: 9th September 2008 Location: Nottingham, UK Posts: 1,507 Thanks given: 42 Thanked 85 Times in 68 Posts iTrader: (7)	Have a read... Honda Worldwide \| Technology Picture Book \| VTEC and HowStuffWorks "What does the VTEC system in a Honda engine do?" hope this helps

18th March 2010, 22:14	#8 (permalink)
tdi-north Commercial user Join Date: 3rd May 2008 Location: Warrington Posts: 3,890 Thanks given: 131 Thanked 603 Times in 463 Posts iTrader: (0)	I think you will find the inlet, not to mention the exhaust valves open all the time te engine is running vtec or no vtec. Cam rotation is also happening constantly on both high and low cam but it is only the intake cam that had the capability to alter upto 50' from zero position. Exhaust cam is fixed. Flashpro allows possibility to alter not only vtec window but full cam settings, fuel and ignition tables to allow a trained mapper to tune your car to it's optimum efficiency to deliver best performance and economy. Mapping cars has been around for years. This isn't some new rocket science or black art developed for Type-Rs

18th March 2010, 22:36	#9 (permalink)
DPG87 Aye Aye.... Car: 2009 CTR, Milano Join Date: 1st July 2009 Location: Glasgow Posts: 6,205 Thanks given: 482 Thanked 767 Times in 721 Posts iTrader: (9)	Lol can I just jump in and ask...I plugged the flashpro in to my desktop and downloaded the Group N map...but the instructions etc on the site all say that I need to then plug the flashpro into the car when it is connected to a laptop...but I ain't got a laptop lol so how do I get the map onto the car? Cheers

18th March 2010, 22:40	#10 (permalink)
J_H i-VTEC - DO YOU? Car: 2009 CTR, Black Join Date: 11th December 2008 Location: Woking, UK Posts: 3,055 Thanks given: 21 Thanked 215 Times in 200 Posts iTrader: (3)	Borrow one?

18th March 2010, 22:43	#12 (permalink)
DPG87 Aye Aye.... Car: 2009 CTR, Milano Join Date: 1st July 2009 Location: Glasgow Posts: 6,205 Thanks given: 482 Thanked 767 Times in 721 Posts iTrader: (9)	There must be a way to do it because it says laptop or desktop on the requirements

18th March 2010, 22:46	#13 (permalink)
tdi-north Commercial user Join Date: 3rd May 2008 Location: Warrington Posts: 3,890 Thanks given: 131 Thanked 603 Times in 463 Posts iTrader: (0)	Long USB lead or drag your PC to the car. It all needs to be connected to run through the registering flashpro and licking to the car before you can load the map. Also need an Internet connection. Same with unlocking.

18th March 2010, 23:07	#14 (permalink)
DPG87 Aye Aye.... Car: 2009 CTR, Milano Join Date: 1st July 2009 Location: Glasgow Posts: 6,205 Thanks given: 482 Thanked 767 Times in 721 Posts iTrader: (9)	Nightmare I'll need to try and get my mates

18th March 2010, 23:11	#16 (permalink)
DPG87 Aye Aye.... Car: 2009 CTR, Milano Join Date: 1st July 2009 Location: Glasgow Posts: 6,205 Thanks given: 482 Thanked 767 Times in 721 Posts iTrader: (9)	Yeh I'm gettin Paul to do it but I just wanted to stick the GN map on to see what it's like!

18th March 2010, 23:20	#18 (permalink)
DPG87 Aye Aye.... Car: 2009 CTR, Milano Join Date: 1st July 2009 Location: Glasgow Posts: 6,205 Thanks given: 482 Thanked 767 Times in 721 Posts iTrader: (9)	Aye I'll need to get a laptop from somewhere

19th March 2010, 00:45	#20 (permalink)
DPG87 Aye Aye.... Car: 2009 CTR, Milano Join Date: 1st July 2009 Location: Glasgow Posts: 6,205 Thanks given: 482 Thanked 767 Times in 721 Posts iTrader: (9)	The car runs rich for safety on the engine but it doesn't need to be as rich as it is...as for why they didn't do this...is maybe a bit like askin why didn't they make it 230 bhp standard to be more competitive with it's rivals etc don't worry bout the questions I ask all the time it's the only way to learn IMO