Hondata Flashpro tuning price

mark842 · 26th April 2010, 18:05

Hi,

I have the flashpro group n map on my fn2 for a couple of months now. Considering getting a bespoke map for my car. Have received a price from AI Autosport here in Northern Ireland for £400.

Is this a decent price?
Anyone got their car mapped by these guys?
Does it really make a difference?

Thanks

higham · 26th April 2010, 18:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by mark842

Hi,

I have the flashpro group n map on my fn2 for a couple of months now. Considering getting a bespoke map for my car. Have received a price from AI Autosport here in Northern Ireland for £400.

Is this a decent price?
Anyone got their car mapped by these guys?
Does it really make a difference?

Thanks

sure i just read somewhere a mapping session with tdi north is £230

mark842 · 26th April 2010, 18:13

Was thinking £400 was abit steep. Just wanted to see what everyone else paid.

pigdog · 26th April 2010, 18:24

yes, TDI is about £230, £400 seems alot

tdi-north · 26th April 2010, 20:02

£195+vat

Get on that ferry!

Davek · 26th April 2010, 20:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by tdi-north

£195+vat

Great price! £400 seems steep compared to some I looked at already.

Can TDI South do the same work and for the same price? Don't hear as much about them for mapping, I need mine mapped soon but am based in Kent so it would take me a day to travel up or an hour to get to TDI south.

antmaz · 26th April 2010, 20:55

Can I just jump on this thread and ask if it is worth having it mapped if my car is stock , engine-wise? Was thinking of just getting flashpro and doing group N myself. Cheers

Davek · 26th April 2010, 21:02

I Just brought Flashpro for mine ready for the charger to go on and in the mean time as my engine is near standard except GM I put on the Group N map as a trial to see what it was like and I'd say do it.

3.5k Vtec is great and also then you know you have got one of the more expensive bits out the way when you got a few more mods.

garyb-zs · 27th April 2010, 11:22

Group N Map is good, but does run very very rich!

I've had my AFR tuned now, and the car is a lot better for it.

tdi-north · 27th April 2010, 13:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davek

Great price! £400 seems steep compared to some I looked at already.

Can TDI South do the same work and for the same price? Don't hear as much about them for mapping, I need mine mapped soon but am based in Kent so it would take me a day to travel up or an hour to get to TDI south.

If your talking about getting it mapped for a charger its a whole different ballgame and £400 is about right.

Don't skimp on tuning. TDi South have done a couple of CT kits so have the experience. Another tuner close to you will be fine to do the mapping but don't expect too much help as they sell Jackson and don't like CT....if you get my drift.

jonathan power · 27th April 2010, 14:07

Sorry if im off topic,but i need some sdvice.Ive been running group n with the past few months,and the car seems to be running rich,i wont be getting the car tuned tuned till next year(hopefully travelling over to tdi)..Anyway is there anything i can do to reduce the fuel consumption?

nunoctr · 27th April 2010, 14:42

The above graph is a Fn2 with CAI and reflash of a forum member.
As you can see the car was running AFR of 10.1/11.1 (the flaspro can't datalog lower numbers..) with a duty cycle of 100%. With this intake and other aftermarket ones I have seen, all have the same dangerous AFR with stock/reflash cals (except groupeM)

A few more weeks and this engine would be, probably, destroyed

I have tuned the AFR and all the CAL of this car but I can't do this for everyone as I don't have time (at this time I probably e-tuned more than 30 FN2, almost 2 a day

).

So please if you have an intake in your car go to TDI or CPL and tune your car as they are pro (if you are in the UK). Runing this AFR will destroyed the engine of your car in few weeks.

jonathan power · 27th April 2010, 14:59

Ive got a gruppem intake and im running group n.Are u telling me that this will ruin my engine?

nunoctr · 27th April 2010, 15:07

no.
The groupeM is the only aftermarket intake i have seen that have safe AFR readings (but not perfect) with AFM untuned calibrations.

All other intakes I have seen in datalogs (and I can tell you I have seen almost all) have dangerous AFR. They need extensive MAF sensor calibration.

jonathan power · 27th April 2010, 15:27

Thanks very much for the advice,you certainly know what your talking about.I cant get it tuned until maybe june next year,i just hope i dont do any damage.I might even drop the gruppem till then just to be safe.

Davek · 27th April 2010, 17:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by tdi-north

If your talking about getting it mapped for a charger its a whole different ballgame and £400 is about right.

Don't skimp on tuning. TDi South have done a couple of CT kits so have the experience. Another tuner close to you will be fine to do the mapping but don't expect too much help as they sell Jackson and don't like CT....if you get my drift.

I know about the other tuner as they are literally 1 mile from me but after my bro and close friends experiences with them i don't want to use them for mapping, i did have the conversation with him about ct supercharger over his setup too and found that he didnt seem to want to know so would rather spend my money with someone who will get the best out of it & show some entusiasm.

Do you have a e-mail address of **** at tdi south who i can ask about some of my requirements eg, prices & waiting times etc??

Thanks

RTivicCype · 27th April 2010, 17:35

nunoctr, Would my car be alright with a HKS racing suction kit with standard ecu?

nunoctr · 27th April 2010, 17:42

probably no. You can only see this if you make a datalog and look the AFR readings.

Don't know if it will be dangerous but without maf sensor calibration the car will not run 100%.

tdi-north · 27th April 2010, 17:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davek

I know about the other tuner as they are literally 1 mile from me but after my bro and close friends experiences with them i don't want to use them for mapping, i did have the conversation with him about ct supercharger over his setup too and found that he didnt seem to want to know so would rather spend my money with someone who will get the best out of it & show some entusiasm.

Do you have a e-mail address of **** at tdi south who i can ask about some of my requirements eg, prices & waiting times etc??

Thanks

Give sam a call. (sam@tdi-plc.com)

TDi PLC are the top of the tree when it comes to tuning. You will struggle to find a more profesional company anywhere in the world with the experience they have and it is real high end stuff as well.

TDi North on the other hand, we pretty much specialise in Honda's with a real focus on the Type-R family. We see far more than TDi PLC (South) do but they do know exactly what they are doing. They did Terry's install and mapping btw.
I will be down there next week with Terrys car for the press days then taking the car back to Warrington if your around where I will fit a few more bits and really start to wind the power up.

tdi-north · 27th April 2010, 17:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by RTivicCype

nunoctr, Would my car be alright with a HKS racing suction kit with standard ecu?

If your worried pop in and we can have a look. We are pretty close to you.

26th April 2010, 18:05	#1 (permalink)
mark842 Car: 2005 E46 M3 Coupe Join Date: 21st March 2009 Location: Belfast, NI Posts: 152 Thanks given: 2 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts iTrader: (0)	Hondata Flashpro tuning price Hi, I have the flashpro group n map on my fn2 for a couple of months now. Considering getting a bespoke map for my car. Have received a price from AI Autosport here in Northern Ireland for £400. Is this a decent price? Anyone got their car mapped by these guys? Does it really make a difference? Thanks

27th April 2010, 14:42	#12 (permalink)
nunoctr Join Date: 26th May 2008 Location: portugal - Benfica Posts: 1,832 Thanks given: 74 Thanked 200 Times in 176 Posts iTrader: (0)	The above graph is a Fn2 with CAI and reflash of a forum member. As you can see the car was running AFR of 10.1/11.1 (the flaspro can't datalog lower numbers..) with a duty cycle of 100%. With this intake and other aftermarket ones I have seen, all have the same dangerous AFR with stock/reflash cals (except groupeM) A few more weeks and this engine would be, probably, destroyed I have tuned the AFR and all the CAL of this car but I can't do this for everyone as I don't have time (at this time I probably e-tuned more than 30 FN2, almost 2 a day ). So please if you have an intake in your car go to TDI or CPL and tune your car as they are pro (if you are in the UK). Runing this AFR will destroyed the engine of your car in few weeks. Last edited by nunoctr; 27th April 2010 at 14:45.

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Davek Supporter Car: 2007 CTR GT in Milano Join Date: 15th March 2009 Location: Kent, UK Posts: 1,031 Thanks given: 32 Thanked 100 Times in 94 Posts iTrader: (11)	I Just brought Flashpro for mine ready for the charger to go on and in the mean time as my engine is near standard except GM I put on the Group N map as a trial to see what it was like and I'd say do it. 3.5k Vtec is great and also then you know you have got one of the more expensive bits out the way when you got a few more mods.

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jonathan power Join Date: 18th July 2008 Location: waterford,ireland Posts: 277 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 12 Times in 11 Posts iTrader: (1)	Sorry if im off topic,but i need some sdvice.Ive been running group n with the past few months,and the car seems to be running rich,i wont be getting the car tuned tuned till next year(hopefully travelling over to tdi)..Anyway is there anything i can do to reduce the fuel consumption?

27th April 2010, 14:59	#13 (permalink)
jonathan power Join Date: 18th July 2008 Location: waterford,ireland Posts: 277 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 12 Times in 11 Posts iTrader: (1)	Ive got a gruppem intake and im running group n.Are u telling me that this will ruin my engine?

27th April 2010, 15:07	#14 (permalink)
nunoctr Join Date: 26th May 2008 Location: portugal - Benfica Posts: 1,832 Thanks given: 74 Thanked 200 Times in 176 Posts iTrader: (0)	no. The groupeM is the only aftermarket intake i have seen that have safe AFR readings (but not perfect) with AFM untuned calibrations. All other intakes I have seen in datalogs (and I can tell you I have seen almost all) have dangerous AFR. They need extensive MAF sensor calibration.

27th April 2010, 15:27	#15 (permalink)
jonathan power Join Date: 18th July 2008 Location: waterford,ireland Posts: 277 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 12 Times in 11 Posts iTrader: (1)	Thanks very much for the advice,you certainly know what your talking about.I cant get it tuned until maybe june next year,i just hope i dont do any damage.I might even drop the gruppem till then just to be safe.

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RTivicCype Join Date: 10th December 2009 Location: Cheshire,UK Posts: 125 Thanks given: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts iTrader: (0)	nunoctr, Would my car be alright with a HKS racing suction kit with standard ecu?

27th April 2010, 17:42	#18 (permalink)
nunoctr Join Date: 26th May 2008 Location: portugal - Benfica Posts: 1,832 Thanks given: 74 Thanked 200 Times in 176 Posts iTrader: (0)	probably no. You can only see this if you make a datalog and look the AFR readings. Don't know if it will be dangerous but without maf sensor calibration the car will not run 100%.